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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 06 November 2013, 07:58
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Just a quick heads up guys, Navtec have just released the new Navigation updates (November 2013) for the Discover Nav Pro & Discover Media
Links.
Discover Pro
http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Discover_Pro&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light
Discover Media
http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Discover_Media&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light
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Thanks for the link.
My internet connection benchmarks at 60Mb and usually downloads 3GB files in under 15 minutes, but it's downloading very slowly from this site. After 15 minutes, it's averaging just 186kb/sec and it still says it going to take more than 12 hours to download!
Anyone else tried this?
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Thanks, downloading now
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How many times can you update the system? Im sure GeorgeK said 6 times in three years but how do VW know that you have downloaded the software?
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I'm just reading that copying the data to the Nav Pro can take up to 4 hours and you must have the ignition switched on! What are people's experiences regarding the time taken to upload?
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Thanks for the heads up Norbeck. All downloaded :smiley:
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I'm just reading that copying the data to the Nav Pro can take up to 4 hours and you must have the ignition switched on! What are people's experiences regarding the time taken to upload?
Certainly took a while and did need ignition on however it paused when ignition was off and resumed when back on so over a number of trips the update completed. System worked normally during the update.
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Cheers Norbeck!
Wonder if this fixes a peculiar fault that I've noticed, when it's suggesting three routes if you move the map, ie. zoom in or scroll around, when you select a route the nav screen defaults to Wolfsburg and won't follow your car until you press the follow car icon. Nothing major but a bit of a bug.
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Cheers Norbeck!
Wonder if this fixes a peculiar fault that I've noticed, when it's suggesting three routes if you move the map, ie. zoom in or scroll around, when you select a route the nav screen defaults to Wolfsburg and won't follow your car until you press the follow car icon. Nothing major but a bit of a bug.
Mine did something similar but froze completely while it was calculating the three routes and the screen showed Wolfsburg. After a period of switching the media unit and ignition on and off it eventually reset itself
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I'm just reading that copying the data to the Nav Pro can take up to 4 hours and you must have the ignition switched on! What are people's experiences regarding the time taken to upload?
Certainly took a while and did need ignition on however it paused when ignition was off and resumed when back on so over a number of trips the update completed. System worked normally during the update.
Thanks Andy. Didn't realise you could do the update whilst you were driving. I assumed that the car needed to be stationary with the engine off and you had to sit with the ignition on until it was finished.
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Anyone had any luck downloading the single big file and extracting it successfully?
I've downloaded it twice now and both times it has the same Data Error, broken/corrupted files in the archive when extracted with 7zip or WinRAR.
The broken files are for France North East and North West (Total 16) and Italy South (Total 2). I cancelled the extract about 80% in so this may not be all of them.
Didn't have this problem with the July update.
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Anyone had any luck downloading the single big file and extracting it successfully?
I've downloaded it twice now and both times it has the same Data Error, broken/corrupted files in the archive when extracted with 7zip or WinRAR.
The broken files are for France North East and North West (Total 16) and Italy South (Total 2). I cancelled the extract about 80% in so this may not be all of them.
Didn't have this problem with the July update.
I have the Nav Pro version
If you let me know which files or directories - I can put them up on DropBox for you :)
Rik
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Have updated Discover media with 2014 map updates and everything ok except no road names shown on map display, just blank white or black boxes. Road names shown on instrument display and heard on spoken instuctions. Any ideas?
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Rik,
How do I get the files from your Dropbox ? It will be Xmas before my download has finished! :whistle:
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Rik,
How do I get the files from your Dropbox ? It will be Xmas before my download has finished! :whistle:
I will upload it and post a link buddy - shouldn't be long
it will be here shortly http://
ALL DONE :)
Be aware its 17GB
EDIT: Sorry chaps - Drop box ban due to the traffic it generated - link removed
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How many times can you update the system? Im sure GeorgeK said 6 times in three years but how do VW know that you have downloaded the software?
I heard this as well...but how would they know?
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How many times can you update the system? Im sure GeorgeK said 6 times in three years but how do VW know that you have downloaded the software?
I heard this as well...but how would they know?
Easy - they release it twice a year, and for the next three years ..... :)
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yes but how do they know it's me downloading the update and what time I bought the car. then when new owners cone along in a years time they get three years free updates. they can't tell who is downloading what and when.
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yes but how do they know it's me downloading the update and what time I bought the car. then when new owners cone along in a years time they get three years free updates. they can't tell who is downloading what and when.
Exactly!! (I cannot believe I am agreeing with someone from Sunderland :laugh:)
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yes but how do they know it's me downloading the update and what time I bought the car. then when new owners cone along in a years time they get three years free updates. they can't tell who is downloading what and when.
If they have been really clever they will have implemented this in the firmware of the head unit, so it won't install updates after 3 years of operation.
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After three years, how can it not let you update maps? :undecided:
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If they have been really clever they will have implemented this in the firmware of the head unit, so it won't install updates after 3 years of operation.
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so after three years the unit is in effect useless as no updates will be installed? I can't see this happening and I don't think they are that clever. even if you bought an official update it wouldn't install if something was flicked off in the unit. this will be interesting to see how navteq/VW do this.
@moggy where are you from?
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If they have been really clever they will have implemented this in the firmware of the head unit, so it won't install updates after 3 years of operation.
so after three years the unit is in effect useless as no updates will be installed? I can't see this happening and I don't think they are that clever. even if you bought an official update it wouldn't install if something was flicked off in the unit. this will be interesting to see how navteq/VW do this.
@moggy where are you from?
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Near Whitley Bay...don't you dare say 2-1
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After three years, how can it not let you update maps? :undecided:
The firmware could easily have a time or count limit on updates to prevent you continuing to install new map data...unless you purchase a firmware upgrade to allow map updates to continue to be installed.
I hope they haven't been this sneaky...
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Where does it say you get three years free updates. I asked my dealer about this and they said there's no free updates. To quote "out of goodwill they will give me one free upgrade because of the amount of money I've spent on the car". Is this a load if bullsh!t I'm being given?
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Where does it say you get three years free updates. I asked my dealer about this and they said there's no free updates. To quote "out of goodwill they will give me one free upgrade because of the amount of money I've spent on the car". Is this a load if bullsh!t I'm being given?
From the pricelist:
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/dXpcrHKM.png)
From the VW website http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/navigation-and-entertainment-systems/discover-nav-pro
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/ZvesW86l.png)
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If the download is freely available from that website (which it is) and you aren't required to enter any authorization details to download it (and I wasn't), then I don't see how they can stop you downloading it beyond 3 years. It's copied onto an SD card. The Nav unit (Discover media) just reads this card, I don't believe it does any validation checks on it.
Besides, there are always ways around it even if they do. I had an RNS 510 in my MK6 and the map updates were easily attainable if you looked hard enough.
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What's the process for updating maps on a Nav Pro Unit? The maps are held on the SSD which I obviously don't have access to.
My car manuals are in German (long story, dealer mess up), so any guidance would be appreciated!
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What's the process for updating maps on a Nav Pro Unit? The maps are held on the SSD which I obviously don't have access to.
My car manuals are in German (long story, dealer mess up), so any guidance would be appreciated!
Hiya,
I dont have Navigation or even my GTi yet but you copy the update to a SD card. :cool:
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What's the process for updating maps on a Nav Pro Unit? The maps are held on the SSD which I obviously don't have access to.
My car manuals are in German (long story, dealer mess up), so any guidance would be appreciated!
Hiya,
I dont have Navigation or even my GTi yet but you copy the update to a SD card. :cool:
Ha! Fair, I guess there is an option within the nav 'setup' menu to update the maps. I'll have a play later - thanks!
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OK instructions are here:-
http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Discover_Pro_PDF&NewLocaleID=en_GB&NewDomainName=Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light
;-)
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By three years of updates I think they meant that's how long it would take to download it. Jesus wept this is taking ages.
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By three years of updates I think they meant that's how long it would take to download it. Jesus wept this is taking ages.
LOL - I have it here, and did put it on my dropbox - all 17GB of it - but got banned by dropbox for traffic
If you have some space somewhere - I can upload?
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Anyone know how to do this on Mac?
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Anyone know how to do this on Mac?
Do what chief? Just download the files, unzip and then copy to an SD card.
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Anyone know how to do this on Mac?
Just uncompress onto an SD card and that should be fine
google 7zip for mac
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the Discover media guys, did you download the zipped file in one go or one after the other. lf one after the other, do you have to extract each of the segments as I am getting an error message when I try download part 2.
bloody heck it takes ages. it would be quicker to install the actual unit at this rate.
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I'm looking at about 18.1GB uncompressed for the Nav Pro update. Does that sound about right to everyone?
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Got it on my SD card now and it reads 18.1 GB, so yes, that's fine.
Took my nav about 2 hours to update.
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Can you update it via USB or does it have to be SD?
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must be sd kyle.
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must be sd kyle.
Ah that's no good. Only got 16gb cards. Have to source a card. Cheers
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I would go for 32gb class 10 kyle. plenty about for approx 15 quid
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Discover pro is sd card.
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Well, just spent the last hour downloading, unzipping, formatting and copying. Fingers crossed it all works in the morning......or I may sneak out and pop it back in now :grin:
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Well, I've updated my Nav Pro with the new November version.
Be aware - it took longer to do the update than it did to download it !!
Took about an hour to download.
Took about 2 and a half hours to upgrade and that was using a Class 10 - 100mb/s SDHC card. The U1 type.
My advice - do it when your heading for a long drive.
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Right, finally got around to attempting this but think I've done something wrong and was hoping you guys could trouble shoot for me.
Downloaded and unzipped the files
Moved them onto an empty SD card
Gone into Settings, Software Version and then Software Update
Get an error message saying no update can be found.
Anyone got any ideas? Reading on the navigation website it seems to suggest using the original sat nav SD card, is that what you have to do? Don't fancy formatting that and losing all the map data.
edit - I should add this is on the Discover Nav (not the fancy nav)
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You do need to use original sat nav sd card for your unit
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Hi All, My GTD (BW48) with Nav Pro is hopefully delivered in approx 2 weeks time, how will I know which version of map/firmware update is installed, I've read that it's Menu, Setup then System information but what should I see to know its the latest version ?
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Hi,
I have taken delivery of my vehicle bw 47, will I need to update it? its the standard nav...also for the dab image update, do I add this to the sd card for the nav or does this go in the media slot?
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My Pro screen froze on Sunday, so I thought I would update the software this weekend. I only want to revise the UK maps, as I am not planning to go to foreign parts this year (although another trip to Le Mans is always on the cards). When I go to the VW download site I have the option of a complete download or 17 parts. Am I able to download just one section to only update the UK maps, and if so, which part number is it? Also, earlier mention was made about having the original disk. I've searched and there is nothing with the manual or in the glovebox. Does this mean a visit back to my dealer? Any help will be much appreciated.
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As I understand it, you can't pick and choose, you need the whole file.
The separate files make the up complete file and are used to allow those with a slower download speed the chance to actually get it. The whole file is about 6GB, which is a lot to download for slower connections.
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For those installing, either I've done it wrong, or it's changed different.
I backed up the map data on the VW supplied SD card
Formatted the card as detailed
Extracted the new map file directly to the card
Put the card in slot 2 of my GTD with Discover Nav
Turned on engine and drove normally
Pressed the Nav button
It showed an updating type screen for about 2 minutes
Screen went back to normal mapping
Total journey time was 10 mins, and when home, the new map must have been initiated because it knew where I lived (new build house) where the old map didn't
Very painless operation to update?
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Yeah on the discover nav all you're doing is updating the maps that are read from the SD card. Don't think it updates any software.
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I have downloaded the update in one go and unzipped the files which leaves me with 3 files
Eggnog
Nav DB
Speech ResVDE
It says on the VW site to download 7z 001 extension first but which one is this and in what order do I upload?
sorry in advance i'm not to savvy on these things :embarrassed:
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I have downloaded the update in one go and unzipped the files which leaves me with 3 files
Eggnog
Nav DB
Speech ResVDE
It says on the VW site to download 7z 001 extension first but which one is this and in what order do I upload?
sorry in advance i'm not to savvy on these things :embarrassed:
What nav do you have?
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Nav Pro
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Nav Pro
I believe you put all of them files into an SD card, don't worry about the fact they're not a 7zip, then go into car menu and at the bottom you'll see software update. It'll take a while but you can turn your car off but you'll not be able to use your nav till its updated.
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What am I doing wrong?
I just can't do the updates.
I have Nav Pro and downloaded the file in one hit(windows 8.1 took 90 mins) and put it in an unzip app(bandizip), I then unlocked the sd card(32GB class 10)and unzipped the file to the card(took 45mins)
Then removed the card(it said that the file was still open so I had to close it to remove the card) and locked it and put it in SD1/2 slot and went to updates in Nav, the Nav says there
is an error and no data available :huh:
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What am I doing wrong?
I just can't do the updates.
I have Nav Pro and downloaded the file in one hit(windows 8.1 took 90 mins) and put it in an unzip app(bandizip), I then unlocked the sd card(32GB class 10)and unzipped the file to the card(took 45mins)
Then removed the card(it said that the file was still open so I had to close it to remove the card) and locked it and put it in SD1/2 slot and went to updates in Nav, the Nav says there
is an error and no data available :huh:
I can't help much more because I've only got pauper spec Nav but have you checked the file sizes? I think Nav Pro update should be around 16gb.
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What am I doing wrong?
I just can't do the updates.
I have Nav Pro and downloaded the file in one hit(windows 8.1 took 90 mins) and put it in an unzip app(bandizip), I then unlocked the sd card(32GB class 10)and unzipped the file to the card(took 45mins)
Then removed the card(it said that the file was still open so I had to close it to remove the card) and locked it and put it in SD1/2 slot and went to updates in Nav, the Nav says there
is an error and no data available :huh:
I can't help much more because I've only got pauper spec Nav but have you checked the file sizes? I think Nav Pro update should be around 16gb.
The download was about 17GB
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Try a different zip program. 7zip works great and it's free.
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The download might also be corrupt (seems to have downloaded very quickly). Try re-downloading.
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Thanks will try again :smiley:
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Just to give people a heads up these have been updated for May 2014
Discover is http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Discover_Media&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light (http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Discover_Media&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light)
Discover Pro is here http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Discover_Pro&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light (http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/Navteq-NavteqEurope-Site/en_GB/-/GBP/View-Promo?Page=VW_Discover_Pro&cwt=application/ApplicationFrame_campaign_light)
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How can I check if I have the lastest maps installed? The version information on my Nav says something like this:
5G0919866N 0040 ECE 2014/15
I have seen a screenshot some pages behind that showed hos on VW website the latest version, however now it doesn't. The only info on their website is that the latest available map packs are from May 2014 and that the next update is expected November 2014.
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That's the right version the previous IIRC said 2013/2014 or just 2014 - can't remember what our April build car said originally.
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Can someone remind me how many updates come out a year and how many we can have?
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Can someone remind me how many updates come out a year and how many we can have?
2 updates a year for 3 years so 6 total.
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I'm still wondering how VW will make the updates stop after 3 years?
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I'm still wondering how VW will make the updates stop after 3 years?
I read that it is time limit built into the nav itself. I dont know if this is true but would make sense as the maps themselves are freely available from vw's website.
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Can someone remind me how many updates come out a year and how many we can have?
2 updates a year for 3 years so 6 total.
Cheers Kyle.
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I'm still wondering how VW will make the updates stop after 3 years?
I read that it is time limit built into the nav itself. I dont know if this is true but would make sense as the maps themselves are freely available from vw's website.
That'll need to be removed then by someone clever :grin: :grin:
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reading a similar thread on scn it seems that their units dont have the ability to update with a subscription or code purchase first so I wouldnt be surprised if its on a timer or something
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So basically, if you keep the car more than 3 years, you can't update the maps anymore...
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unless you pay a fee
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So I take it the 3 years will start with the first map update or is that too sensible?
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Far too logical, most likely activated from factory
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I better get updating then :laugh: