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Title: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 05 November 2013, 21:11
Could someone tell me what the part is that sits at the top right side of the engine just below the TIP, it looks like a "flying saucer"

Was driving home with my newborn son and the car started overheating, opened the bonnet and steam/water was pissing out of said part, I plan to replace expansion tank, thermo, coolant and poss water pump, little bit anal at times lol!! But obviously the unidentified part is the prob so need to know what is is

Cheers
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: dom on 05 November 2013, 21:15
This?

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/patb303/PCV/IMG_0248.jpg)
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 05 November 2013, 21:17
No

Just below that on the underside of the tip, it metal
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 05 November 2013, 21:22
http://s215.photobucket.com/user/1330gt/media/image-18.jpg.html

Small round bit, bottom of pic
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: Chris#101 on 05 November 2013, 21:45
It's the s.a.i valve (secondary air intake)
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 05 November 2013, 22:01
Ok

Why would water be coming out of it??
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 05 November 2013, 22:15
What's the price off a new one can't seem to find them anywhere??
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: dom on 05 November 2013, 22:17
There shouldn't be, it pumps air into the exhaust on startup.

What's the price off a new one can't seem to find them anywhere??

You can just remove it:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4893472-DIY-Ultimate-SAI-N249-PCV-EVAP-Delete (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4893472-DIY-Ultimate-SAI-N249-PCV-EVAP-Delete)
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 05 November 2013, 23:39
Seems like a lot of work!! And to be honest I'd rather spend the time with my son while I'm off work. Does it have a gasket that could have blown??
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 06 November 2013, 06:46
Fix the problem not the effect. It shouldn't have water /steam coming out of it afaik so removing it is only going to mean the water ends up somewhere else. Sorry I can't be more help I have no idea how water or steam would even get there...
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 06 November 2013, 11:52
Fix the problem not the effect. It shouldn't have water /steam coming out of it afaik so removing it is only going to mean the water ends up somewhere else. Sorry I can't be more help I have no idea how water or steam would even get there...

I agree it's there for a reason so....
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 06 November 2013, 13:18
Just been out to top up fluids, started her up and she lost about 3 quarters of what the expansion tank holds!! Top it up again and left her running for 5 min and no movement,

Then I checked the dip stick and oil cap and found very slight white residue on it (just cap)

Does that mean head gasket is on its way out
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 06 November 2013, 16:46
Not necessarily, white gunk on the oil cap also occurs if you tend to do short trips.

With the overheating issue, its more likely something else and that was the weakest point in the system.

Check the water pump is actually pumping, easiest way is to take the return hose off the top of the expansion cap and run it into the top of the expansion tank, start the car and get someone else to rev it slightly and see if the speed of the coolant increases into the tank.

It could also be the thermostat
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: dom on 06 November 2013, 18:31
There is still no reason that I can think of for water to be in the SAI system :undecided:

Is it still doing it? If so can you get a short video?
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 06 November 2013, 20:04
To a risk a drive it to my mums this afternoon, was alright pulled over just under half way there and the water level in the expansion tank had dropped a bit so topped it up and it's been ok, I have noticed a slight leak coming from a hose just under the sai valve! But doesn't look like it's leaking enough for the water level drop as much as it did??

I have also noticed a dry pinkish like powdery residue on a couple of hoses on the left side near the expansion tank....where exactly is the water pump?? Does it sit just under the ex tank on the side if the block above the belt??

Cheers
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: james2 on 06 November 2013, 21:03
Sounds like you have a tiny leak from a pipe pin size and will be worse when engine is warmed up , pink powder on pipes will be antifreeze dryed up and the leak will most likly spray on these pipes. Run engine untill hot and check for leak by the pipes with pink powder on.
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 06 November 2013, 21:58
Will do  :wink:

Thanks you all for the suggestions
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: 150+ on 06 November 2013, 22:29
Are there any be benefits to removing the sai system??

Or negatives??
Title: Re: Help identifying part
Post by: dom on 07 November 2013, 12:35
Are there any be benefits to removing the sai system??

Or negatives??

Benefits - removes a load of hoses/pipes that are prone to breaking, the pump itself is also prone to failing.

The system is only in place for emissions purposes, by removing it you should see no negatives.