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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 20:01

Title: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 20:01
ok, im sure Ive asked something along these lines before, but can remember.
has anyone here removed their front door cards?. do you have pics?.
I`m thinking of doing a diy lexan window installation so the window reg won`t be needed. just need to come up with a mechanism to open the door. I`m thinking of making aluminium (would love to use carbon fibre) door cards and have an empty door shell. I can then do away with most the wiring etc.
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: Prawny on 02 November 2013, 20:02
Apart from making your car pretty horrid inside, what are the reasons for doing this mate?
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 20:11
the door cards weigh quite a bit, so does the window reg. I don't mind it being horrid inside, this car isn't for full time road use, it is "slowly" being built for track!
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: mcgee9t2 on 02 November 2013, 20:23
Mk4s weigh a ton to start with.

It's like putting Susan Boyle on a diet. She's never gonna be a karsashian.



If your wanting to go full track prep. Drill a hole at the top of the door. Big enough to fit the wire through but not the sleeve and put a tie wrap on it. No weight of regulator panel etc and door can be opened.
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 20:41
would like a lever rather than a zip tie to pull lol.
oh and the reason the mk4 Is so heavy, is not because of the shell, but because of all the sh!t that's bolted to it.
not to say that the shell isn't heavy, but I have weighed a lot of the sh!t that I took out and binned, and so far I have taken out well over 100kg. try bench pressing that!
with all the crap taken out, the car feels so much more alive. just for reference the front seats weigh aprox 40kg for the pair!
See - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=179176.0
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 02 November 2013, 21:43
I left it as it was after removing it, didn't bother putting anything in its place

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/null_zps345fdb48.jpg)
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 21:50
I left it as it was after removing it, didn't bother putting anything in its place

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/null_zps345fdb48.jpg)
so you just pull the cable itself?..  :laugh:
ok, fair enough... I was going to reskin the doo with aluminium plate, but if that works then I wont bother lol
do you have polycarbonate windows too?
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 02 November 2013, 21:54
Yes poly all around, with the exception of the windscreen

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/null_zps8993081c.jpg)
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 21:59
sexual!
how much power are you currently running?
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 02 November 2013, 22:14
Not too sure, I'm just running a generic map until I fit this

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/null_zps67e1d30f.jpg)

It's a k300 hybrid
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 22:24
will be interesting to see it running :wink:
I`m running an e05 and have got nitrous oxide ready to put in. just waiting for a progressive controller. ive thought about making one with arduino as a little experiment  :grin:
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 02 November 2013, 22:44
Yea the weight makes a considerable difference. With the k300 I will be over 260bhp per ton, but the most profound impact is on handling.
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 02 November 2013, 23:05
indeed, it`s what I have noticed. I think I need a better suspension kit than a fk-ak coilover kit though lol :smiley:
at the moment I find it very difficult to put any power down in the wet  :tongue:
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: barrym381 on 03 November 2013, 01:06

at the moment I find it very difficult to put any power down in the wet  :tongue:
same with every fwd car i have had  :angry: an rwd is just a laugh till it all goes wrong  :whistle:
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 03 November 2013, 11:24
I'm hoping a good custom mapping with linear throttle, in gear boost cap and left foot braking will help my traction problems. I'll atleast be able to power brake off the line.
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: Dave_IOW on 03 November 2013, 14:20
Jamie, what you need is styrofoam mate, it's what I made my door cards out of, reasonably rigid when screwed in, but as its foam, weighs nothing!
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 03 November 2013, 18:07
Jamie, what you need is styrofoam mate, it's what I made my door cards out of, reasonably rigid when screwed in, but as its foam, weighs nothing!
you`ve lost me now dave, isn't that the stuff used for packaging products?.. couldn't you literally just poke your finger through it?.
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: Dave_IOW on 03 November 2013, 22:07
No mate, mines 3mm and reasonable sturdy. It's the stuff they use for site boards to remind you to wear hard hat & safety boots. Have a look at one if you work on site anywhere.

I got mine from a local printers, managed to get an 'offcut' big enough to do 4 door cards for £10!
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: Dave_IOW on 03 November 2013, 22:14
Like this;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3mm-Matt-Foamex-PVC-Sheet-1220-x-800-White-Matt-Sign-PVC-Board-Foam-PVC-Sheet-A0-/121057480180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c2f968df4
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: Prawny on 06 November 2013, 10:37
Just for the record, I'm not against weight saving at all, I'm all for it! I just don't think door cards are really the most obvious place to be looking.

If you are removing the door cards, then i'd strongly urge you to cover up the aperture at least, sharp edges are not good news!

I got my A3 down to 1060kg at one point, and at that time it still retained full glass, door cards, dash, and electric windows!

As far as traction goes - that's largely down to setup and tyre choice, in the wet you will always struggle. In the dry 300ish bhp shouldn't be a problem at all.
 
Title: Re: stripped mk4`s
Post by: jamie16v on 09 November 2013, 13:07
i don't struggle with traction at all in the dry, just wet. its annoying.. it`s still drivable when road driving, just not when you put the power down.
the door cards are one of the last things to remove tbh, everthing else is out, apart from the glass. I do intend to cover up the door aperature which is why I am looking for a way to open the door without doing it with a piece of string. I want to go down the polycarbonate glass route, which will get rid of the inner door skin which houses the window reg etc. also.