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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Jimmymature on 01 November 2013, 17:36
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Hi all, driving the car today and it came to a complete stop, tried to start and earning came up and said something like "Engine Check, take to workshop!" The car finally started and I took it to the dealers.
They stuck on the diagnostics and they 'think' it's the timing belt. He mentioned something like a TPI and VW may pay for the parts.
Now has anyone heard of this? What is this going to cost me? :cry:
Cheers,
Jim
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Assuming this is for a MK6 GTI based on your sig...
Your vehicle is fitted with a Timing chain not a Belt. Did the engine re-start roughly? It also depends what faults are in the memory...did the Dealership say?
What year is your car?
See here for some recent Tensioner Shockers:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=260743.0
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=259461.0
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A search in the mk6 section with my username and the search term" tensioner " should bring the many threads up sadly.
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If it had gone really badly wrong would I still be able to start it and it drive?
If it is it guess I should fight the costs as it's only done 32k miles with full VWSH
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Yes as the stupid ecu programming alters the camshaft timing to try and get or keep the car running. :lipsrsealed:
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Thanks mate, we'll with 32k on the clock they can whistle if they want me to pay!
No way a modern car should have this issue with so few miles!!
Thanks mate,
Jim
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Another one bites the dust!!
If this IS and it's failed whilst driving then I think VW need to change their tune!
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Another one bites the dust!!
If this IS and it's failed whilst driving then I think VW need to change their tune!
Before I start refusing to pay them a penny, am I right in saying that this simply should never happen on a car with so few miles for its age?
What is a reasonable cost for me to pay? Anything? All of it?
All advice is appreciated.
Jim
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Depends what it is mate, unfort not much can be done till it's diagnosed!
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It all depends what it is.
If the chains jumped a tooth during the car running there could be a few reasons.
. Its been known for the chain to rub the case and ware.
. Low oil level or presure therefore the tensioner does not fully tension.
. Oil leak on the tensioner causing low pressure.
. Theres a fine mesh filter in the oil feed to the tensioner this can become sludged up causing the tensioner to not fully tension as the oil presure to it is low.
As ive said many times im not a fan of the way they have done this design. An old mechanical spring tensioner and a secondary oil fed one would have been a better design as would have using better deeper teeth design on the cogs and a better chain.
Its all cost and it looks like the mk7 uses a similar design. This is why ive rulled out any more EA888 Engined cars in my future.
It may not even be the cam chain tensioner in this case.
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VW have called me and said that they will need to replace the timing chain. VW will pay 100% for all the parts which he claims is over £1k as there are quite a few parts that will need replacing.
They have advised that the job will take 8 hours, I called an authorised VW workshop and they advise the system has that job down as a 3 hour job (2.7 hours)
The total cost is £756, I've told them I can't pay that and they are going to come back to me.
So is the 8 hours incorrect and is this a cost that I'm just going to have to suck up?
Cheers guys,
Jim
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you have done well to get an initial quote for 8 hours, if they are going to come back with an improved offer that would be a good result.
But halfway through writing this i remember you say it was under 40k on the clock, so in fact it should still be under warranty- I would push for at least 50% labour.
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you have done well to get an initial quote for 8 hours, if they are going to come back with an improved offer that would be a good result.
But halfway through writing this i remember you say it was under 40k on the clock, so in fact it should still be under warranty- I would push for at least 50% labour.
Why would it still be under warranty mate? The car is an 09 plate.
Thanks,
Jim
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The dealer has come back to me and advised they will cover 50% of the labour and VW 100% of the parts! all in all I think that's a fair compromise.
Thanks for all the advice guys,
Jim
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you have done well to get an initial quote for 8 hours, if they are going to come back with an improved offer that would be a good result.
But halfway through writing this i remember you say it was under 40k on the clock, so in fact it should still be under warranty- I would push for at least 50% labour.
Why would it still be under warranty mate? The car is an 09 plate.
Thanks,
Jim
My bad, missed that. Can you save your quote and invoice, it will help whoever's goes pop next. If the dealers can start to get some consistency on the final price it would be nice.
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I wonder if they check the ECU for evidence of mapping before they offer any good will payments, or if anyone that's had good will for this repair has had an unchecked mapped car.
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you have done well to get an initial quote for 8 hours, if they are going to come back with an improved offer that would be a good result.
But halfway through writing this i remember you say it was under 40k on the clock, so in fact it should still be under warranty- I would push for at least 50% labour.
Why would it still be under warranty mate? The car is an 09 plate.
Thanks,
Jim
My bad, missed that. Can you save your quote and invoice, it will help whoever's goes pop next. If the dealers can start to get some consistency on the final price it would be nice.
Afetr another cold start this morning, I defo know mine is on the way out, just sounds to rattly for the first 3-5 seconds. I wish VW would have it in and fix before it goes bang.
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Pre emptive action must make sense for VW. I guess the dealer won't commit to take it on unless they are guaranteed that they will be reimbursed by VW, or you.
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Afetr another cold start this morning, I defo know mine is on the way out, just sounds to rattly for the first 3-5 seconds. I wish VW would have it in and fix before it goes bang.
I was sure mine got noisier and 'less convincing' in the week leading up to the failure.
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I hope min goes before April as its still under approved used Warranty....
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I hope min goes before April as its still under approved used Warranty....
Document it where you purchased the car from, they are unlikely to do anything but at least it's on record as a concern.
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I hope min goes before April as its still under approved used Warranty....
Document it where you purchased the car from, they are unlikely to do anything but at least it's on record as a concern.
I have, but just hope it goes sooner rather than later
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I hope min goes before April as its still under approved used Warranty....
If we're a betting man I'd put money on a new engine for you sir in Jan 14