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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Dave_IOW on 31 October 2013, 11:14

Title: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Dave_IOW on 31 October 2013, 11:14
What did you connect the take off for your n75 from? I have the standard bit of tube which has the nipple on it, but it's only a 2" bore.

Looking to get the k300 from Littco some time next year and want full 2.5" intercooler piping.

I'm guessing you have bought a 63mm silicone T for the DV?
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: jamie16v on 31 October 2013, 14:16
you can either weld a nipple into the first section of alloy pipe or, what I did was take it direct from the manifold.
you might think you can`t do this, but you can  :smiley:
I believe the T for the DV is usually done in hard alloy.
Should have kept your mk4!
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: EsSeX dAn on 31 October 2013, 18:18
Can someone enlighten me plz, what on earth is a wellycooler? ive googles it but it just looks like an intercooler to me? does it go between the air filter and maf sebsor or something? plz dont rib me too much lol
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: jamie16v on 31 October 2013, 20:33
it`s a refrigerator for your wellington boots!










on a serious note, its just a big intercooler from ebay.
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: EsSeX dAn on 31 October 2013, 22:48
haha nice answer. ahh i see i see. sorry to hijack by the way!
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Dave_IOW on 01 November 2013, 00:15
Cheers Jamie :afro:

Had thought about the feed coming off the manifold to be honest, seems a hell of a lot easier!

Also thought about using those silicone taps but was worried about leaks.

Regarding DV, trying to use as much hard pipe as I can, going to use the silicone T piece and use that as a joiner, might aswell make one of the joins useful!

If I kept my mk4, I could have had rods and a GT2871r by now :sad: :grin:
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 01 November 2013, 10:03
This is one of the reasons I copied the way the S3/TT setup is, I used the charge pipe and the inlet manifold off an S3/TT and just adjusted the piping layout to suit
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Dave_IOW on 01 November 2013, 17:03
Not much good on AGU unfortunately pal, manifolds different.

Also going in a mk2, unsure if a BAM charge pipe will fit down the side..

Think I've pretty much worked it out now :smiley:
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Wazzzer on 01 November 2013, 17:58
Me and Mike just worked it out too lol
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Dave_IOW on 01 November 2013, 18:02
Me and Mike just worked it out too lol

 :huh:

What's that cheeky lil chap just been round? Don't tell me you get Eslanade delivery!!!  :grin:
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: jamie16v on 01 November 2013, 21:12
Cheers Jamie :afro:

Had thought about the feed coming off the manifold to be honest, seems a hell of a lot easier!

Also thought about using those silicone taps but was worried about leaks.

Regarding DV, trying to use as much hard pipe as I can, going to use the silicone T piece and use that as a joiner, might aswell make one of the joins useful!

If I kept my mk4, I could have had rods and a GT2871r by now :sad: :grin:
if you`re using the standard n75 (on the turbo your car was tuned for) you`ll be fine.
if youre using a bleed type mbc like I am (temporary until turbo is tuned) then you`ll need a check valve to stop air being drawn into the manifold from the TIP when the throttle is closed. it causes high idle due to air being able to bypass the throttle.
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Wazzzer on 03 November 2013, 10:24
I've got a spare check valve if you need one Dave
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Dave_IOW on 03 November 2013, 14:01
Think I've got the F valve on there which was the latest revision for C? I'll check when I'm out there next.

Yeah will be using MBC to keep it 18ish.

Cheers Wes, sounds like I'll need that :afro:
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: jamie16v on 03 November 2013, 18:09
Think I've got the F valve on there which was the latest revision for C? I'll check when I'm out there next.

Yeah will be using MBC to keep it 18ish.

Cheers Wes, sounds like I'll need that :afro:
stick with a ball and spring valve in parallel with the n75 and you should be fine without the check valve. I`m only using a bleed type because I bought it when I was uneducated and it caused me a few problems until I devised a few ways to correct it. 
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: Chris. on 03 November 2013, 18:19
Id want to put the N75 close to turbo as possible.

Issue with it on the manifold is it then also see's vacuum from the manifold and not a true reading due to pressure drops across the intercooler etc.
Title: Re: For those with Wellycoolers or 2.5" pipework.
Post by: jamie16v on 03 November 2013, 19:07
Id want to put the N75 close to turbo as possible.

Issue with it on the manifold is it then also see's vacuum from the manifold and not a true reading due to pressure drops across the intercooler etc.
the reading at the manifold is what the engine actually see`s. there are no issue`s from taking off from the manifold. and while it is under vac conditions the matter doesn't apply because you are not on boost, plus, that is what the check valve can be used for!