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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: AD1.8T on 29 October 2013, 18:13

Title: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: AD1.8T on 29 October 2013, 18:13
So as always when you go to modify your car you end up finding something that needs fixing!!! So the stupid lower crank case breather hose was split ... well split is an understatement it was hanging on by about 3mm of rubber nice ey ! :rolleyes:

so I dont want to replace It im going to fit a catch can now I can get my head round doing it but I cant figure out what I need lol I really dont want to spend more than £50 to be honest.

can someone give me a shopping list of what I will need. Ebay catch cans any good ? 
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: jamie16v on 29 October 2013, 20:18
ive got an ebay catch can and its crap tbh, I don't think its caught a teaspoonful of oil since it has been fitted. I`m going to fill it with SS wire mesh, see if that helps and also isolate it from the TIP.
you`re going to need 19mm hose (oil resistant) a tee piece and maybe one or two more plugs ect., not sure on size.
most of us have very slightly different catch can setups but the pipework is mostly the same.
the best thing for you do is, buy your catch can of choice first. then work out what size reducers, tee`s, plugs and other fittings you are going to need.
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: baxxy on 29 October 2013, 20:25
Splash the cash and get one of these mate
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saikou-Michi-Oil-Catch-Can-For-VW-Skoda-Seat-Audi-With-19mm-Inlet-Outlet-/300923892823?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4610763457
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn192/baxyuk/null_zps328f62b7.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/baxyuk/media/null_zps328f62b7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: AD1.8T on 29 October 2013, 20:40
Baxxy thats double what I ideally want to spend haha does it come with pipes ect ?
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: baxxy on 29 October 2013, 20:43
If you mail them and ask him to sort you a good price out of ebay he will give you all the pipe work aswel mate.
its a very good catch can 19mm not nothing like the crap toyosport 15mm ones get your money out looks oem aswel  :smiley:
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: AD1.8T on 29 October 2013, 21:25
I was looking at toyosport ones  :rolleyes: god dammit I really wanted to get a decat this month !
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: baxxy on 29 October 2013, 22:31
No good 15mm and empty inside  :whistle:
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 29 October 2013, 23:16
How odd, I use a toyosport oil catch can and it catches oil vapour just fine, I've had to empty it out countless times since I've bought it. It works wonders looking at the crap that it's prevented from going back to the engine.
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: jockgti on 29 October 2013, 23:17
utter tripe ,i have toyosport 15mm one and mine catches loads,maybe other people just haven't set there's up correctly.
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: jamie16v on 30 October 2013, 11:15
i really can`t understand how mine is set up incorrectly, one port goes to the hockey puck entry of the tip, and the other goes to the top and bottom end breathers which are connected via a Tee piece??
correct me if I`m wrong of course.
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: rio_gti on 30 October 2013, 13:17
what sort of journeys do everyone do to what they pull out of they're cans??

I do 1.5 mile trip twice a day and I rarely have to empty mine
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 30 October 2013, 14:00
I think the placement of the catch can also affects how effective a trap it is. Mine is towards the front of the engine bay in the path of airflow so it's relatively colder.
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: jamie16v on 30 October 2013, 15:24
mine is bolted with a home made bracket to the metal bracket which holds the dipstick and n249 valves on later 1.8t`s.
I have ordered a bung for the TIP connection and a breather filter for the outlet of the can so nothing goes back through the inlet.
perhaps that will help.  :drool:
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: AD1.8T on 30 October 2013, 16:23
I went with the toyosports one in the end well an ebay jobby but its identical it will do for a temp fix maybe permanent if its good. On a side note rio what have you sprayed your rocker cover with and do you have a build thread with more pictures ?
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: jockgti on 30 October 2013, 21:14
mine is bolted with a home made bracket to the metal bracket which holds the dipstick and n249 valves on later 1.8t`s.
I have ordered a bung for the TIP connection and a breather filter for the outlet of the can so nothing goes back through the inlet.
perhaps that will help.  :drool:

exactly where mine is bolted ,i made it sit up a bit so it doesn't touch the rad fan or any pipes going to/from the rad ,i mainly do short journeys i check it once a month
(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac201/piebobs71/IMAG0451_zpsac377824.jpg) (http://s900.photobucket.com/user/piebobs71/media/IMAG0451_zpsac377824.jpg.html)
(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac201/piebobs71/IMAG0448_zps76a65189.jpg) (http://s900.photobucket.com/user/piebobs71/media/IMAG0448_zps76a65189.jpg.html)
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 30 October 2013, 21:54
I also use an eBay special catch can mounted at the front but I vent it to atmosphere

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/null_zpsc3c00c83.jpg)
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: dom on 30 October 2013, 22:01
@rockmonkey69 what size are the outlets on the can? Did you get custom 19mm ones made up or do you have a reducer?
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 30 October 2013, 22:10
No reducer just adapters, I can't remember what thread the catch can has off the top of my head but I think it was 3/8
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: dom on 30 October 2013, 22:21
No reducer just adapters, I can't remember what thread the catch can has off the top of my head but I think it was 3/8

Where did you get the adaptors from?
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 30 October 2013, 22:33
Any hydraulics shops will stock adapters, I can't remember whether it was Pirtek or Phoenix hoses, my engine bay is quite old, this setup was only supposed to be a temporary bodge until I had time to come up with a more permenant solution.
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: jamie16v on 31 October 2013, 00:16
Any hydraulics shops will stock adapters, I can't remember whether it was Pirtek or Phoenix hoses, my engine bay is quite old, this setup was only supposed to be a temporary bodge until I had time to come up with a more permenant solution.
where does your header tank live?
Title: Re: oil catch can shopping list required
Post by: rockmonkey69 on 31 October 2013, 00:27
Any hydraulics shops will stock adapters, I can't remember whether it was Pirtek or Phoenix hoses, my engine bay is quite old, this setup was only supposed to be a temporary bodge until I had time to come up with a more permenant solution.
where does your header tank live?

It's inside the cabin, I done away with a the header tank in favour of an inline valve and overflow
(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j471/6rockmonkey9/969401DA-4EE5-4D43-89F5-DBD89A664BB5-1409-000000B637674B0E.jpg)