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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: froudeg on 25 October 2013, 20:46

Title: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: froudeg on 25 October 2013, 20:46
I'm in the process of fitting OEM bi-xenons to my mk6 Golf GT.

I've got everything worked out, bar the coding for the AFS (auto-levelling/cornering) module.

My car has ACC (adaptive chassis), and hence already has the auto-levelling sensors fitted. With this scenario the AFS module does not directly connect to the rear level sensor, but communicates over the canbus to get the level information.

The issue is, that the short coding for the AFS module is not documented in VCDS and the only short codes i can find on the web are for setups without ACC that have the level sensor directly connected to the AFS module.

Is there anyone on here with bi-xenons, on a mk6 golf with the ACC suspension?, or anyone who has retrofitted the xenons to the same setup with autolevelling?

If they could give me their short code for the AFS module, i would be very grateful!
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: mike. on 26 October 2013, 08:40
If you have a legitimate VCDS cable then just drop an email to Ross-Tech with a full autoscan and they will give you the correct coding.

They supplied one for me when I was retrofitting mine which also turned on the tourist mode, and bend lighting options in the MFA. My car doesn't have ACC.

I have a scan from another car with ACC and their coding was 1445212, not sure if that will work for you.

After the module is coded you will need to run the Basic Settings (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Headlight_Aim_Control_(Xenon_with_AFS)#Coding) again.


Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: froudeg on 26 October 2013, 11:56
Thanks mike! - i'll give it a go.

I do have a genuine VCDS - but i bought it second hand and rosstech want you to pay $99 to register a 2nd hand VCDS!, just trying to save some money :)
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: Venster on 26 October 2013, 19:45
How hard was the retrofit of the xenons? Did you have to change your module or was it ok?
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: froudeg on 27 October 2013, 02:37
It's a fair bit of work if you want the auto-levelling and cornering working, but it's mainly just a lot of wiring and removing panels.
The front bumper may also need to be removed or half undone to get the existing lights out.
Thankfully i saved some work as i don't have to install the rear level sensor with ACC.

My CECM/BCM module needs changing, even though i have fogs and headlight washers - if you're looking to do the retrofit and have VCDS, check your central electrics version.
If it doesn't end in 87 then you will need to upgrade it....eg. mine was 1k0937086M which is a midline and doesn't have the pins for the high beam shutters.

Also if you're looking to have the LED DRL version of the bi-xenons, then you also need at least software version 575 (this came in with D modules but not all D's have it so best get E or newer). I got the set of lights without the LED DRL - i'm not keen on the look of LED DRLs but thats just a personal choice, a lot of people like them.

I'm mainly following this guide for install: http://golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46536 , combined with ERWIN wiring diagrams to ensure i'm as close to a factory install as possible.

I'm going the same route and didn't bother with kuftec adapters and de-pinned and repinned new connectors to the headlights.

I haven't finished my install yet, just waiting on my new CECM to turn up! - I'll get some pics up once i'm done :)
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: dubber36 on 27 October 2013, 08:30
What are you going to do about DRLs? The early xenon cars had dip beam, tail lights and number plate lights all on as there was no separate DRL lamp. Most people didn't like that, so turned them off.
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: Venster on 27 October 2013, 09:08
I have read different on the cecm, if fitting xenons without led there is no need to change the module if you have a midline just put the high beam wires into the cecm from the kufatec adaptors

Also if you change the cecm module I've read you need to recode your keys and all sorts?
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: mike. on 27 October 2013, 11:53
I had the Midline (86) CECM and the pins for the high beam shutters were physically not fitted on the connector so putting the wires in from the Kufatec loom would have no effect as there was nothing to connect them to.

I also had to upgrade to the Highline (87) CECM. The knee airbag has to come out for this.

For me the hardest bit was getting to the CAN bus but that may be already sorted for a car with ACC.

You do have to re-learn your keys but that is a one minute job with VCDS.
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: mike. on 27 October 2013, 12:07
Just looking through that link from froudeg.

Looks like a slightly different approach for a LHD car than a RHD car.

I didn't have to remove the glove box at all, as the AFS module fitted behind the panel at the end of the dash on the passenger side as below.

(http://www.thewindinglane.co.uk/images/mk6gti/xenonfit/xenon2.jpg)
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: froudeg on 27 October 2013, 12:10
What are you going to do about DRLs? The early xenon cars had dip beam, tail lights and number plate lights all on as there was no separate DRL lamp. Most people didn't like that, so turned them off.

Mine will be off - tails lights is all you need if you want a DRL. Legally cars produced in Europe from Feb 2011 onwards have to have full DRLs, mines a MY10 so doesn't matter.

Mike is right with regards to the CECM - 86 midline modules don't have the pins for the high beam shutters. This link shows you what pins are required http://www.carsystems.pl/?a=sklep.artykul&id=14&kategoria=67.

I'm hoping i don't have to remove the airbag - i'll find out soon enough!

Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: mike. on 27 October 2013, 12:19
Do you have ELSAWIN available?

If not I could email you a lot of disassembly diagrams from the workshop manual.
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: dubber36 on 27 October 2013, 12:50
What are you going to do about DRLs? The early xenon cars had dip beam, tail lights and number plate lights all on as there was no separate DRL lamp. Most people didn't like that, so turned them off.

Mine will be off - tails lights is all you need if you want a DRL. Legally cars produced in Europe from Feb 2011 onwards have to have full DRLs, mines a MY10 so doesn't matter.


Tail lights? Anyway, even if your car was a 2011 or newer, it doesn't legally need to have DRLs. The legislation is that new models produced after March 2011 must have them. The Mk6 Golf was in production before then, so was type approved without them.
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: froudeg on 27 October 2013, 13:09
I meant side lights ;)
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: Venster on 27 October 2013, 13:32
Where is the cecm? I'm guessing around the steering wheel area and fuse box area? Is it easy to have a look to what I've got as I don't have vcds at the moment

This is what I read through but I guess as your saying it doesn't have the pins then a highland cecm is required

http://volksurf.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/bi-xenon-led-retrofit-diy.html?m=1
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: froudeg on 27 October 2013, 13:38
Do you have ELSAWIN available?

If not I could email you a lot of disassembly diagrams from the workshop manual.

I have Elsawin, thanks for the offer though. You are right that it says to remove the knee airbag, which actually looks simple enough - i just don't like going anywhere near airbags!, i'll follow the precautions on the workshop manuals.
Title: Re: OEM Bi-xenon retrofit - AFS coding
Post by: froudeg on 27 October 2013, 13:42
Where is the cecm? I'm guessing around the steering wheel area and fuse box area? Is it easy to have a look to what I've got as I don't have vcds at the moment

Its located under the steering wheel area.

Workshop guide for CECM removal: http://volkswagen.workshop-manuals.com/golf-mk6/index.php?id=2029
and the relay carrier attached to it: http://volkswagen.workshop-manuals.com/golf-mk6/index.php?id=2022
and the knee airbag! : http://volkswagen.workshop-manuals.com/golf-mk6/index.php?id=1158

As you can see its not easy to get to for removal / checking.