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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 25 October 2013, 07:46
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Hi guys,
Had my heated seats on this morning for the first time (as it was a bit chilly), with my cloth interior. I have to say, whilst they do work, they get no where near as hot as they did in my older Scirocco or then MK5 Golf (with leather) I had before that. Had them on for a good 10 minutes and they just got warm ish on the full setting. At the lower settings (1 & 2) I could hardly feel them. In the Rocco, I could only have them on 3 for about 5 minutes before I had to turn them down.
Anyone else noticed this, and know if this is something that can be tweaked with VCDS. I have seen a whole section on the heated seats within the Central Electronics adaptation channels, and wondered if the current settings could be adjusted form here ?
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I tried mine too for the first time yesterday. I found after 2 minutes on full the seats were hot enough.
This is the first non-leather car I've had with seat heaters and they certainly seem to work at least as well as I'm used to.
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I tried mine too for the first time yesterday. I found after 2 minutes on full the seats were hot enough.
This is the first non-leather car I've had with seat heaters and they certainly seem to work at least as well as I'm used to.
I second what Morro says. One press on the seat heater button sets it at 3 bars of heat and within 2 minutes it is too warm and I have to turn it down or turn it off. Like Morro it is the first time I have had seat heating without leather and it does work just as well as it does with leather seats.
Have you checked the passenger seat to see if it is the same ? If it is then either you have, ahem, a well insulated posterior :whistle:, or it could be faulty. There is certainly no need for an adjustment or VCDS tweak in mine.
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Is seat heat warmth tied in with aircon eco setting? Just thinking if you set your aircon to eco to save fuel, maybe the car saves a bit of energy by only putting out a moderate heat with the seats also?
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You could be onto something there MH, as I was set to Eco mode when I tried it, so maybe that limits the current. I'll try it in normal mode later and see if it makes a difference.
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You could also see if there is any difference in the 'consumption rate' shown on the 'Convenience Consumption' screen with either setting perhaps.
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I had heated seats in my Mark 5 and have them now in my Mark 6, and the ones in the Mark 6 aren't nearly as good. The '5' had five settings for the level of heat; the '6' only has three.
Initially, they get nice and toasty (on levels 2 and 3), but after a while, they don't seem as hot. Either my derriere gets accustomed to the heat or the seats turn the level of heat down after a while. If I increase the in-car temperature upwards, the heat level rises again.
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Hi guys,
Had my heated seats on this morning for the first time (as it was a bit chilly), with my cloth interior. I have to say, whilst they do work, they get no where near as hot as they did in my older Scirocco or then MK5 Golf (with leather) I had before that. Had them on for a good 10 minutes and they just got warm ish on the full setting. At the lower settings (1 & 2) I could hardly feel them. In the Rocco, I could only have them on 3 for about 5 minutes before I had to turn them down.
Anyone else noticed this, and know if this is something that can be tweaked with VCDS. I have seen a whole section on the heated seats within the Central Electronics adaptation channels, and wondered if the current settings could be adjusted form here ?
Every new car I have had has been like that recently. Vw cc mercedes and mk6. The heated seats are sh!t. What's the point of them if they take that long to heat up. Mk5 was great.
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I think the Mk7 seats are really warm! 3 bar for me heats up within a minute and then after a few more minutes i find it uncomfortably warm... Maybe that'll change in winter but so far very happy :-)
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Ditto. I've found them nice and toasty.
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My GTi drivers seat bottom warmer is not as hot or as fast heating up on 1,2, or 3 as my previous 3 Sirocco's were. Does the job though. To be fair on the Sirocco I thought the seat heating was sometimes uncomfortably hot.
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I was chatting to my dealer last week when I was in picking up some screen wash, and he said "are you in the car now ?" I said yes, and within minutes, my master tech friend had it in the back with the computer hooked up. Moments later he came back saying "I've tweaked the settings, they were a little low".
Tried the heated seats the next day and it's a revelation, every bit as hot and as quick to heat up as the Rocco was. Interestingly, only the driver seat needed tweaking, the passenger seat heated up no problem, so I guess it just wasn't programmed right at the factory ?
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Is seat heat warmth tied in with aircon eco setting? Just thinking if you set your aircon to eco to save fuel, maybe the car saves a bit of energy by only putting out a moderate heat with the seats also?
I think that this is probably clutching at straws... fuel consumption benefit of reducing the current drawn by the heated seats would be so insignificant that I doubt you could measure it... It certainly wouldn't be worth the effort...
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I was chatting to my dealer last week when I was in picking up some screen wash, and he said "are you in the car now ?" I said yes, and within minutes, my master tech friend had it in the back with the computer hooked up. Moments later he came back saying "I've tweaked the settings, they were a little low".
Tried the heated seats the next day and it's a revelation, every bit as hot and as quick to heat up as the Rocco was. Interestingly, only the driver seat needed tweaking, the passenger seat heated up no problem, so I guess it just wasn't programmed right at the factory ?
Interesting! Do you know what he actually did? Surely VCDS must have a setting, I notice mine take a good few (5+) mins to actually heat up
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I find them to heat up within a few minutes and to get very hot and toasty on three bars. Never had heated seat before so they are probably one of my favourite features of the car. Sad I know.
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I was chatting to my dealer last week when I was in picking up some screen wash, and he said "are you in the car now ?" I said yes, and within minutes, my master tech friend had it in the back with the computer hooked up. Moments later he came back saying "I've tweaked the settings, they were a little low".
Tried the heated seats the next day and it's a revelation, every bit as hot and as quick to heat up as the Rocco was. Interestingly, only the driver seat needed tweaking, the passenger seat heated up no problem, so I guess it just wasn't programmed right at the factory ?
Interesting! Do you know what he actually did? Surely VCDS must have a setting, I notice mine take a good few (5+) mins to actually heat up
Mine are also very quick to activate, and I find setting 2 too hot after a few minutes! Maybe it's my sensitive behind..
Anyway, had a quick look, maybe check these adaptation channels in your central electrics module. I've noted what mine are set to for you to compare:
(1)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 1 untere Schaltschwelle 21.50 ∞C
(2)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 1 obere Schaltschwelle 22.50 ∞C
(3)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 2 untere Schaltschwelle 21.50 ∞C
(4)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 2 obere Schaltschwelle 22.50 ∞C
(5)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 3 untere Schaltschwelle 35.00 ∞C
(6)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 3 obere Schaltschwelle 36.00 ∞C
(7)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 4 untere Schaltschwelle 35.00 ∞C
(8)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 4 obere Schaltschwelle 36.00 ∞C
(9)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 5 untere Schaltschwelle 52.50 ∞C
(10)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 5 obere Schaltschwelle 53.50 ∞C
(11)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 6 untere Schaltschwelle 52.50 ∞C
(12)-Driver seat heater level current consumption allocation-Sitzheizung Stufe 6 obere Schaltschwelle 53.50 ∞C
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Thanks for that mate, tried it but it did not appear the same then I realised yours is a MK7 mines a MK6 they must have different settings :( I couldn't find that under central electrics module...
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I was chatting to my dealer last week when I was in picking up some screen wash, and he said "are you in the car now ?" I said yes, and within minutes, my master tech friend had it in the back with the computer hooked up. Moments later he came back saying "I've tweaked the settings, they were a little low".
Tried the heated seats the next day and it's a revelation, every bit as hot and as quick to heat up as the Rocco was. Interestingly, only the driver seat needed tweaking, the passenger seat heated up no problem, so I guess it just wasn't programmed right at the factory ?
Sootchucker- I am experiencing the same problem as you, would you be so kind as to ask your master tech friend what parameters need to be altered to remedy this issue?
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I assume from the list above yours are set to level 8 and seem to warm up well?
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I assume from the list above yours are set to level 8 and seem to warm up well?
Not sure if you're referring to me or not but my seats take about 5 minutes before you can feel them and only heat to 40*C compared to my girlfriends Golf heating to 53*C.
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Ah interesting, I thought the Golf R when I tested them out on the test drive were slower than my mk6 GTD, but it will be interesting to see what level it is set to.
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I was chatting to my dealer last week when I was in picking up some screen wash, and he said "are you in the car now ?" I said yes, and within minutes, my master tech friend had it in the back with the computer hooked up. Moments later he came back saying "I've tweaked the settings, they were a little low".
Tried the heated seats the next day and it's a revelation, every bit as hot and as quick to heat up as the Rocco was. Interestingly, only the driver seat needed tweaking, the passenger seat heated up no problem, so I guess it just wasn't programmed right at the factory ?
Sootchucker- I am experiencing the same problem as you, would you be so kind as to ask your master tech friend what parameters need to be altered to remedy this issue?
Sadly, my Master Tech friend has moved from VW to Mercedes (should keep him busy :grin:), and he's also moved down to London so I don't see him any more. When I get the earliest opportunity though, I'll have a scan of my car with VCDS and see what the adaptation channels show.
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I was chatting to my dealer last week when I was in picking up some screen wash, and he said "are you in the car now ?" I said yes, and within minutes, my master tech friend had it in the back with the computer hooked up. Moments later he came back saying "I've tweaked the settings, they were a little low".
Tried the heated seats the next day and it's a revelation, every bit as hot and as quick to heat up as the Rocco was. Interestingly, only the driver seat needed tweaking, the passenger seat heated up no problem, so I guess it just wasn't programmed right at the factory ?
Sootchucker- I am experiencing the same problem as you, would you be so kind as to ask your master tech friend what parameters need to be altered to remedy this issue?
Sadly, my Master Tech friend has moved from VW to Mercedes (should keep him busy :grin:), and he's also moved down to London so I don't see him any more. When I get the earliest opportunity though, I'll have a scan of my car with VCDS and see what the adaptation channels show.
That would be most helpful and appreciated, thank you sir!
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I was chatting to my dealer last week when I was in picking up some screen wash, and he said "are you in the car now ?" I said yes, and within minutes, my master tech friend had it in the back with the computer hooked up. Moments later he came back saying "I've tweaked the settings, they were a little low".
Tried the heated seats the next day and it's a revelation, every bit as hot and as quick to heat up as the Rocco was. Interestingly, only the driver seat needed tweaking, the passenger seat heated up no problem, so I guess it just wasn't programmed right at the factory ?
Sootchucker- I am experiencing the same problem as you, would you be so kind as to ask your master tech friend what parameters need to be altered to remedy this issue?
Sadly, my Master Tech friend has moved from VW to Mercedes (should keep him busy :grin:), and he's also moved down to London so I don't see him any more. When I get the earliest opportunity though, I'll have a scan of my car with VCDS and see what the adaptation channels show.
Hey Sootchucker, have you had a moment to do the scan by chance?
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sorry i completely forgot, i'll try and do it tomorrow for you.
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sorry i completely forgot, i'll try and do it tomorrow for you.
That would be great, thanks!
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sorry i completely forgot, i'll try and do it tomorrow for you.
Hey sootchucker were you able to get that data?
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Hey sootchucker were you able to get that data?
You'll find the adaptation channels labels and factory set temperature values on previous page, post #15, thanks to jivemonkey. I can confirm that they are the same on my GTI, however I have changed the temperatures a bit for the first and second settings.
Seat heating stage 1 lower switching threshold 28.50 °C
Seat heating Level 1 Upper threshold 29.50 °C
Seat heating stage 2 lower switching threshold 28.50 °C
Seat heating Level 2 Upper threshold 29.50 °C
Seat heating stage 3 lower switching threshold 39.00 °C
Seat heating Level 3 Upper threshold 40.00 °C
Seat heating stage 4 lower switching threshold 39.00 °C
Seat heating Level 4 Upper threshold 40.00 °C
Seat heating stage 5 lower switching threshold 52.50 °C
Seat heating Level 5 Upper threshold 53.50 °C
Seat heating stage 6 lower switching threshold 52.50 °C
Seat heating Level 6 Upper threshold 53.50 °C
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Hey sootchucker were you able to get that data?
You'll find the adaptation channels labels and factory set temperature values on previous page, post #15, thanks to jivemonkey. I can confirm that they are the same on my GTI, however I have changed the temperatures a bit for the first and second settings.
Seat heating stage 1 lower switching threshold 28.50 °C
Seat heating Level 1 Upper threshold 29.50 °C
Seat heating stage 2 lower switching threshold 28.50 °C
Seat heating Level 2 Upper threshold 29.50 °C
Seat heating stage 3 lower switching threshold 39.00 °C
Seat heating Level 3 Upper threshold 40.00 °C
Seat heating stage 4 lower switching threshold 39.00 °C
Seat heating Level 4 Upper threshold 40.00 °C
Seat heating stage 5 lower switching threshold 52.50 °C
Seat heating Level 5 Upper threshold 53.50 °C
Seat heating stage 6 lower switching threshold 52.50 °C
Seat heating Level 6 Upper threshold 53.50 °C
I tried modifying these settings a while back and didn't get any change in my seats sadly.