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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: 2014GTi on 23 October 2013, 12:55

Title: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: 2014GTi on 23 October 2013, 12:55
Hi all,

thought I would kick off a thread to follow the news about the BW45 specification changes taking place on the GTi & GTD.
So far looking on certain threads and YouTube videos I have noticed the following changes:-

Performance Pack gets Red GTi badges to front and rear
Folding mirrors now operate from remote fob
Sound Pack available for GTD
Red brake callipers for GTD

*possiblity of a standard fitmet of USB / iPod interface instead of MDI (anybody able to confirm)

Anybody know of anything other changes?

Cheers :)
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: monsta on 23 October 2013, 13:01
Red badges in the UK?  Interesting... gonna have to retro fit them  :wink:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: 2014GTi on 23 October 2013, 13:08
Red badges in the UK?  Interesting... gonna have to retro fit them  :wink:
I can only assume, but MY2014 Performance GTi cars at the Frankfurt motorshow had red GTi badges.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: monsta on 23 October 2013, 13:22
Thought that was going to be for Europe only, will probably do mine anyway :)

http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Golf-5-6-7-Polo-6R-GTI-Heck-Logo-Zeichen-Emblem-Tornadorot-/251352772660?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item3a85caf034 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Golf-5-6-7-Polo-6R-GTI-Heck-Logo-Zeichen-Emblem-Tornadorot-/251352772660?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item3a85caf034)
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: p3asa on 23 October 2013, 13:35
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=260090.0
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: MajorKhan on 23 October 2013, 13:49
whats the sound package??
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: 2014GTi on 23 October 2013, 13:56
whats the sound package??
Its to make the GTD's sound better  :grin: so nothing to worry about for GTi owners.
I find that the information posted around the BW45 changes is very minimal. I don't think its the fault of local dealerships either, just little information about BW45 changes being filtered down to the UK.
It would seem pointless to have EU GTi Performance Pack cars with red GTi logo's and not do the same for all of them.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: p3asa on 23 October 2013, 14:10
Where are you getting the info about red brake calipers for a GTD?

According to the bulletin Lee posted about BW45 changes  (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=260090.0) it states they are urging the dealers to make sure customers know its Grey calipers with no logo!
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: MM087 on 23 October 2013, 14:24
+1 re the brake callipers ?
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: corgi on 23 October 2013, 14:38
According to the bulletin Lee posted about BW45 changes  (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=260090.0) it states they are urging the dealers to make sure customers know its Grey calipers with no logo!

And my dealer has... in an email.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: 2014GTi on 23 October 2013, 14:59
If you take a look at MY2014 Golf's at the Frankfurt Motorshow you can clearly see the GTD with Red Brake Callipers.
The Performance Pack GTi's with Red GTi badges
Video's on YouTube will show this and for the GTD with Red Brake Callipers see http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/21/2015-volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-review/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/08/21/2015-volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-review/)

I guess it depends what MY your Golf is..... I can only assume that cars produced after BW45 are classed as MY2014 cars and not MY2013.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: p3asa on 23 October 2013, 15:04
That's not for UK cars though.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: 2014GTi on 23 October 2013, 15:35
That's not for UK cars though.

I havent seen anything to state that red GTi PP badging and red GTD calliper logo's are EU only... I will keep hunting to find out thought.  :smiley:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: kevinm on 23 October 2013, 15:50
In Ireland, red callipers on the GTD can only be ordered with the sport and sound pack:

(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv79/kevinm_photobucket/Clipboard03_zps82d3a303.jpg)
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: p3asa on 23 October 2013, 16:16
That's not for UK cars though.

I havent seen anything to state that red GTi PP badging and red GTD calliper logo's are EU only... I will keep hunting to find out thought.  :smiley:

I'm sure its been discussed here before that Europe GTDs get red calipers but UK don't.
They aren't going to gives us red calipers any time soon considering the bulletin has just come out to inform customers its grey calipers they get.  :cry:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: Mr Savage on 23 October 2013, 16:32
I don't know if I'd even want red GTI badging on a Tornado Red GTI. Have to wait & see how it looks.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: Jimble on 23 October 2013, 17:53
Couple of assumptions going on here mate based on nothing more than pictures? As p3asa has already said, Lee our resident dealer contact has already posted what the MY changes WILL be.

Inflationary price increase plus week 45 and 50 product changes02 October 2013
One per cent rise for all models and some options from 4 November
VW1195-13

From Monday 4 November 2013, all models and some options increase in price by one per cent

Golf Hatch (week 45)



All trims

Luggage compartment – conversion of handle to handle recess with variable luggage compartment floor
Label in tank cap changes from white to yellow background in all diesel models
Change to optional folding door mirror – this can now be operated with the remote (currently only works when the ignition is on)
Media-in with iPod adapter cables – introduction of ‘Lightning Adaptor’ for iPhone 5 alongside regular iPod connection, as standard
GTD – introduction of optional Sport and Sound pack – £255 including VAT. This sound generator enhances the aural sensation for the driver (and passengers). In ‘Sport’ mode (using the Driver Profile Selector) there is an additional acoustic emphasis to the sound of the engine inside the car, with no additional noise externally
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: matchboy on 23 October 2013, 18:02
I don't know if I'd even want red GTI badging on a Tornado Red GTI. Have to wait & see how it looks.

That's what I was thinking. Bit too much red. Need to see one in the flesh to see what these new badges look like.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: Ginagee on 23 October 2013, 18:06
I've just gone crazy and asked the dealer to add PP to the order. They can't 100% guarantee it won't delay BW/Delivery, but what the heck, you only live once. It's my first VW and might as well go for it. The new GTi badge makes it just that little more extra exciting...but I'm girly - I like stuff like that! Will look great on Reflex Silver :laugh:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: Snoopy on 23 October 2013, 19:23
Performance Pack gets Red GTi badges to front and rear
As a Golf GTI enthusiast for 30+ years I find this quite a sad time. The GTI badge on a golf was always silver. On a peugeot GTi or SEAT GTI it was in red, but the real GTI it was always silver.
Its like the peugeot GTi's of the 80s had red door panel trim strips and red carpets. The real GTI didnt have to do that.
Sorry to go off topic :sad:


Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: dippy_x on 23 October 2013, 19:38
The red calipers are part of the sight and sound package.  If the sights and sound package is going to be offered here then that will be the only way to get the red calipers.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: sam67GTD on 23 October 2013, 23:12
Performance Pack gets Red GTi badges to front and rear
As a Golf GTI enthusiast for 30+ years I find this quite a sad time. The GTI badge on a golf was always silver. On a peugeot GTi or SEAT GTI it was in red, but the real GTI it was always silver.
Its like the peugeot GTi's of the 80s had red door panel trim strips and red carpets. The real GTI didnt have to do that.
Sorry to go off topic :sad:

I'm with snoopy here. The silver GTI badges look classy, but the red GTI badges look like Halfords parts bin specials IMHO of course  :wink:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: monsta on 24 October 2013, 10:18
You guys have a good point, I think the RB styling ones are better as they have chrome edging still, scroll down for the rear of the car as it's got the red on there...

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/424205/2904409.aspx (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/424205/2904409.aspx)

Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: matchboy on 24 October 2013, 12:42
Performance Pack gets Red GTi badges to front and rear
As a Golf GTI enthusiast for 30+ years I find this quite a sad time. The GTI badge on a golf was always silver. On a peugeot GTi or SEAT GTI it was in red, but the real GTI it was always silver.
Its like the peugeot GTi's of the 80s had red door panel trim strips and red carpets. The real GTI didnt have to do that.
Sorry to go off topic :sad:

I'm with snoopy here. The silver GTI badges look classy, but the red GTI badges look like Halfords parts bin specials IMHO of course  :wink:

Having had a think about it (after my initial 'car has only been out a few months and all ready they're changing it grrr' reaction), I'm also with Snoopy.  It should be silver as that's what it's always been.  I'm happy that my PP can be only clocked by the GTI callipers.  I'm sure the badges will still look good in red but I'm happy with my silver ones  :smiley:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: JohnP on 24 October 2013, 13:52
Performance Pack gets Red GTi badges to front and rear
As a Golf GTI enthusiast for 30+ years I find this quite a sad time. The GTI badge on a golf was always silver. On a peugeot GTi or SEAT GTI it was in red, but the real GTI it was always silver.
Its like the peugeot GTi's of the 80s had red door panel trim strips and red carpets. The real GTI didnt have to do that.
Sorry to go off topic :sad:

I'm with snoopy here. The silver GTI badges look classy, but the red GTI badges look like Halfords parts bin specials IMHO of course  :wink:

Having had a think about it (after my initial 'car has only been out a few months and all ready they're changing it grrr' reaction), I'm also with Snoopy.  It should be silver as that's what it's always been.  I'm happy that my PP can be only clocked by the GTI callipers.  I'm sure the badges will still look good in red but I'm happy with my silver ones  :smiley:

Totally agree with you guys on this - I think the red badges are a step too far and I'm glad I've got the silver ones  :smiley:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: CraigW on 24 October 2013, 13:55
Performance Pack gets Red GTi badges to front and rear
As a Golf GTI enthusiast for 30+ years I find this quite a sad time. The GTI badge on a golf was always silver. On a peugeot GTi or SEAT GTI it was in red, but the real GTI it was always silver.
Its like the peugeot GTi's of the 80s had red door panel trim strips and red carpets. The real GTI didnt have to do that.
Sorry to go off topic :sad:

I'm with snoopy here. The silver GTI badges look classy, but the red GTI badges look like Halfords parts bin specials IMHO of course  :wink:

Having had a think about it (after my initial 'car has only been out a few months and all ready they're changing it grrr' reaction), I'm also with Snoopy.  It should be silver as that's what it's always been.  I'm happy that my PP can be only clocked by the GTI callipers.  I'm sure the badges will still look good in red but I'm happy with my silver ones  :smiley:

Very minor changes to the GTI Mark thank god. Now, if they had suddenly turned round and said something along the lines of increasing the bhp through the PP then i would have been seriously pissed off
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: matchboy on 24 October 2013, 13:58
Very minor changes to the GTI Mark thank god. Now, if they had suddenly turned round and said something along the lines of increasing the bhp through the PP then i would have been seriously pissed off

With the Mk 6 I'd had it a couple of months then they changed all of the rear lights, I was livid as it totally changed the look of the back of the car - so yes, minor changes are most welcome!!
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: MajorKhan on 24 October 2013, 14:05
Changes will always happen, minor or major even more when its a new model on a new platform, its just one of those things, if you want to be the first with something then this is something you have to bear in mind. Only if they sack the research and development team, but if they did that we would not have the MK7
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: Geomets on 24 October 2013, 17:16
Performance Pack gets Red GTi badges to front and rear
As a Golf GTI enthusiast for 30+ years I find this quite a sad time. The GTI badge on a golf was always silver. On a peugeot GTi or SEAT GTI it was in red, but the real GTI it was always silver.
Its like the peugeot GTi's of the 80s had red door panel trim strips and red carpets. The real GTI didnt have to do that.
Sorry to go off topic :sad:

I'm with snoopy here. The silver GTI badges look classy, but the red GTI badges look like Halfords parts bin specials IMHO of course  :wink:

Having had a think about it (after my initial 'car has only been out a few months and all ready they're changing it grrr' reaction), I'm also with Snoopy.  It should be silver as that's what it's always been.  I'm happy that my PP can be only clocked by the GTI callipers.  I'm sure the badges will still look good in red but I'm happy with my silver ones  :smiley:

Very minor changes to the GTI Mark thank god. Now, if they had suddenly turned round and said something along the lines of increasing the bhp through the PP then i would have been seriously pissed off

I'm also with you. I think it looks cheaper, on the photos at least. I observed that the red badges are surrounded by silver. So, fingers crossed it looks nice on pure white (I'm on BW46). Red badging isn't unknown to VW, though. In Europe, the 6-speed mk4 (the one with the 180HP motor version -there were 2 states of tune post-facelift) had its "I" in red.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 October 2013, 17:23
170 TDI Scirocco has a red "I" too to distinguish it from the 140TDI, both badged "2.0 TDI". Used plenty of times now and in the past, mainly to distinguish different output versions of the same engine unit. This badging implies greater potency over the current GTI to those familiar with the system.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: 2014GTi on 24 October 2013, 17:28
170 TDI Scirocco has a red "I" too to distinguish it from the 140TDI, both badged "2.0 TDI". Used plenty of times now and in the past, mainly to distinguish different output versions of the same engine unit. This badging implies greater potency over the current GTI to those familiar with the system.
10bhp greater potency  :laugh:
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 October 2013, 18:17
10bhp greater potency  :laugh:

Maybe they should just go with a red "I" so that later they can bring out the 40th edition with a red "TI", on the assumption it will have more than 230PS.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: KyleB on 24 October 2013, 18:41
IMO the red GTI badge looks like something you'd pick up at Halfords and stick it on a 1.1 Saxo.
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: 2014GTi on 24 October 2013, 18:55
Ok ok, no red GTi badges for the UK :) but I want MDI / iPod connectivity!
Title: Re: BW45 Golf GTi & GTD Specification changes
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 October 2013, 07:35
My dealer hasn't even mentioned these changes even though I have a car on order.

Shall I shout in March when my GTD doesn't have " that" sound ?

If it was on the brochure as standard spec when you placed your order then yes (not sure if it does). Sound actuator has come to be expected on the highest output 2.0TDI (177/184PS).