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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Shizzle on 15 October 2013, 10:45
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Right i have a spare engine fully working order removed from my other GTI had 120k on the clock run sweet as a nut but as its a spare engine i would like to rebuild it fully.My options are rebuild it back to standard or bore it out and have lots of work done depending on what advice i can get on here and how hard is it to source parks for these cars like racing bearings forged internals stuff like that i have an in house engine re-builder at work will all the tools so just need parts what can any 1 suggest.
I have a misses and little girl so need something reliable but when im alone power im not looking for 300 bhp or something silly like that if there is a reasonable priced option for and extra 10 - 30 bhp i will be happy.
Any suggestions?????
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Right i have a spare engine fully working order removed from my other GTI had 120k on the clock run sweet as a nut but as its a spare engine i would like to rebuild it fully.My options are rebuild it back to standard or bore it out and have lots of work done depending on what advice i can get on here and how hard is it to source parks for these cars like racing bearings forged internals stuff like that i have an in house engine re-builder at work will all the tools so just need parts what can any 1 suggest.
I have a misses and little girl so need something reliable but when im alone power im not looking for 300 bhp or something silly like that if there is a reasonable priced option for and extra 10 - 30 bhp i will be happy.
Any one know anything about superchargers on these engines....
Any suggestions?????
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You'll struggle to get much extra power from an ABF without spending a fortune or going down the forced induction route.
Ess_Three spent a huge amount of time/money trying to get his ABF to 200bhp
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Use the money and stick a 1.8t in the car instead.
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i would love to do the 1.8t conversion but it the time spent with car off the road and my luck with turbo cars is bad had 5 engines in my s13 200sx 1.8 turbo only had car a year 6 month spent off the road so no turbos for me but supercharger sounds more reliable maybe just a standard rebuild with few lightened parts gas flowed head seem a reasonable option for me.
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Well you aint gonna get any decent power unless you spend at least £3500
I know a I have just spent £1100 on rods and pistons! :whistle:
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Supercharge a 1.8 20v turbo engine?
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then i gotta buy 1.8t engine hope its good all the wiring and ecu my brother is fitting 3.2 supercharges in a 190e and taking him forever and costing a bomb i don't want that sort of trouble, now uprated pistons and rods high lift cams and some half decent bearings is my sorta idea :) just want to know a good place manufacturer and what sort of combinations to get some good power.
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I would have the spare engine rebuilt with new bearings, gaskets and oil pump as required plus whilst it is apart have the cylinder head gas flowed plus the manifolds matched.
It will not gain big bhp but will all help.
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Yeh thats what im likely to do atm i have inlet ported and head ported all matching and makes a difference so smooth when you put power down.
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I agree, you're not going to see much without going mad on an ABF.
We can supply all parts required and we take on engine work, blocks tested and check, cylinder heads tested and checked, porting and gas flowing with valve seat improvements which make good differences over stock, can do big valve heads too.
Then it's just a case of replacing bearings, shells, oil pump, gaskets, guides and stem seals.
All that would cost approx £1,500 though and probably only see you 160-170bhp mark with a decent filter set up and exhaust.
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well we have all of that in house where i work the testing part just the gas flow i will need to send you to be done need to strip down the engine 1st this is after Christmas if my misses lets me if not a lilttel bit at a time £1500 seems a really good price for all the work where are you based?
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To appreciate the gains I would change your complete wheel set up. Those steels will not help along with the tyres. You really need to decide if it is looks or performance you are after. Otherwise if your car is not set up correctly it's a complete waste of money. That's why I am sorting out out my alloys, rubber, brakes, suspension etc before I do any kind of engine work. Plus engine rebuilding and especially porting is best left to the experts. As mentioned without spending thousands you are not going to get much out of an Abf. First port of call would be to change your wheel set up my friend.
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Ess three (Glen) has saved me thousands of wasted pennies. Just be careful of throwing away money for little to no gain. A uprated manifold and de cat is a good example of this along with cams.
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Why not clean up the spare ABF, sell it to someone wanting it for a Mk2. Then get a 1.8T or a 1.9PD in there and sell the original ABF as well.
Sorting out the suspension and brakes should be taken as read.
btw Foreveryoungaus16v those wheels in his sig photo are early GTI alloys not steels, but they won't be particularly lightweight.
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Check out Hamlins in Bridgewater Somerset. They will completely re build your head etc for £400. All valves etc changed. They are ace and work closely with TSR Performance.
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Why not clean up the spare ABF, sell it to someone wanting it for a Mk2. Then get a 1.8T or a 1.9PD in there and sell the original ABF as well.
Sorting out the suspension and brakes should be taken as read.
btw Foreveryoungaus16v those wheels in his sig photo are early GTI alloys not steels, but they won't be particularly lightweight.
Yeah I know my friend. He has bought some steels to replace them.
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well i will hopefully be buying another gti to put the rebuilt engine as a mk3 gti with no mot is near enough free these days, so this car will be the misses and new car will be MINE :laugh: but port and polish done by professionals and rebuilding can be done at my work in our engine room or a friend of mine who rebuilds jap engines for a living always gives me a good price and guarantees, the setup i have on my car now is juts for this car i would hope one day to have a few gti in my collection there just such great little cars very under appreciated in my opinion i have had 15 cars in 7 years and this has been best by far they ranged from alfa romeo to 4x4 cav and a drift car my little golf been the most fun for money and repairs are so simple and cheap.
New engine New Car New Setup New FUN
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It certainly helps having your garage and contact set up.
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I Do like how the 16v drive i just cba with engine swaps and i like having spares just in case ive had some real bad luck with the cars ive loved.
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Just do it in the correct order and smartly and you will be fine
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Why not look into gearbox modifying.... keep a standard reliable engine and let the box make you go faster :wink:
but as stated after your car is set up properly
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well i will hopefully be buying another gti to put the rebuilt engine as a mk3 gti with no mot is near enough free these days, so this car will be the misses and new car will be MINE :laugh: but port and polish done by professionals and rebuilding can be done at my work in our engine room or a friend of mine who rebuilds jap engines for a living always gives me a good price and guarantees, the setup i have on my car now is juts for this car i would hope one day to have a few gti in my collection there just such great little cars very under appreciated in my opinion i have had 15 cars in 7 years and this has been best by far they ranged from alfa romeo to 4x4 cav and a drift car my little golf been the most fun for money and repairs are so simple and cheap.
New engine New Car New Setup New FUN
I had a Mk3 16v and found it fun but unreliable and had electrical problems. The Mk2 16v I replaced it with was much more fun.
I also had an Alfa 156 2.0TS, but that was riddled with problems.
True the Mk3 is undervalued but it'll never be the classic the Mk2 was.
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I so want an ABF Mk2. But will require big pennies
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Why not look into gearbox modifying.... keep a standard reliable engine and let the box make you go faster :wink:
but as stated after your car is set up properly
Yeah stick a 3.94 FD in! Expensive mind if done correctly.
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Or you could go further and fit a diff. Then you are talking over a grand. But worth it :cool:
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I can get 25% of quaife diffs also I would lave a mk 2 missed out on one for 300 motd and taced I had 156 2.0 alfa I work at ala specialist so no problems fr me I modded it to its max really v6 throttle body custom exhaust mix match parts to make it lighter and faster yet golf is much faster.
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Are you pissed lol
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No my phones is all smashed up half the buttons dont work most of the time lol sorry about that lol
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we're in Barnsley, South Yorkshire
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we're in Barnsley, South Yorkshire
And dont check your PM's! :whistle:
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Why not look into gearbox modifying.... keep a standard reliable engine and let the box make you go faster :wink:
but as stated after your car is set up properly
Yeah stick a 3.94 FD in! Expensive mind if done correctly.
This.
Cost me £160 :wink:
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thats sounds cheap for a gearbox.
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we're in Barnsley, South Yorkshire
And dont check your PM's! :whistle:
I do, it just doesn't whack me in the face like most forums :grin:
Still getting used to it all on here :embarrassed:
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we're in Barnsley, South Yorkshire
And dont check your PM's! :whistle:
I do, it just doesn't whack me in the face like most forums :grin:
Still getting used to it all on here :embarrassed:
Useless tw@t :rolleyes: :grin:
You not set up e-mail notifications of PM?
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we're in Barnsley, South Yorkshire
And dont check your PM's! :whistle:
I do, it just doesn't whack me in the face like most forums :grin:
Still getting used to it all on here :embarrassed:
Useless tw@t :rolleyes: :grin:
You not set up e-mail notifications of PM?
and still dont look at them or reply! :whistle:
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Have replied twice now Len :rolleyes:
Dom, no thanks, we get enough e-mails without PM notifications! I'd need half an hour in a morning just to sit and sort that out!
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Have replied twice now Len :rolleyes:
Dom, no thanks, we get enough e-mails without PM notifications! I'd need half an hour in a morning just to sit and sort that out!
:grin: ignore Len, he's a grumpy old Peugeot driver that the forum can't get rid of :lipsrsealed:
Did you manage to get the seal ordered for tomorrow?
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I managed to get the seal for today :wink: