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Title: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 01 October 2013, 19:21
Hi there, need some advise im fitting a 6 speed cupra r box to my AGU engine and want to fit a Valeo single mass clutch kit but the engine codes dont match from euro parts, will it still fit my car / engine

you advise would be most appreciated
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: brewey on 01 October 2013, 19:30
I'm fairly sure that the vr6/ g60 setup doesn't work on the 6 spd box only the 5.
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: Wayne on 01 October 2013, 20:29
I'm fairly sure that the vr6/ g60 setup doesn't work on the 6 spd box only the 5.

Correct it does not fit the 6spd.
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: Prawny on 03 October 2013, 13:48
the 5 speed single mass kits for your car won't fit if you go 6 speed mate. they use a 228mm clutch.

you;'ll need the clutch and flywheel setup from a 6 speed car, which uses a 240mm clutch with a different slave cylinder arrangement also.

You'll also need the driveshafts, starter motor, clutch hydro line, and power steering pipe from the 6 speed car, as well as possibly a speedo drive plug depending on the age of yours, and possibly the whole shifter mech and cables too, again depending on the age of your AGU.
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: mar_k on 04 October 2013, 22:22
I've got a Valeo SMF conversion in my LCR. I can get you the part no. if you like?
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 05 October 2013, 14:05
Hi there, thanks for the useful info ive got the clutch, starter, driveshafts but how do no which power steering pipe to buy and whats the difference  between the two ??? Could you also give me some more info on the speedo drive plug, cheers

Matty
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 06 October 2013, 16:30
Picked up a Valeo SMF coversation kit, managed to get it for £290.00 which i didnt think was a bad price, have you had any issues ???
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: ReDBull on 07 October 2013, 14:10
The standard DMF and clutch are good for over 400 BHP.
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: mar_k on 07 October 2013, 20:41
Picked up a Valeo SMF coversation kit, managed to get it for £290.00 which i didnt think was a bad price, have you had any issues ???




Pretty certain I paid about £230 for mine, It does rattle a little on idle,
If I were to do it again I would probably stay with DMF
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 07 October 2013, 23:40
Thanks for your suggestions lads, I'm going to give the SMF and clutch a go and see how it feels for now, wish id never got into the idea of the 6 speed now, its been a nightmare trying to get all the parts together  :rolleyes: but does anyone no where i can get a secondhand power steer pipe from the pump vein to the steering rack but of a 6 speed box ???
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: sharki786 on 08 October 2013, 06:38
Thanks for your suggestions lads, I'm going to give the SMF and clutch a go and see how it feels for now, wish id never got into the idea of the 6 speed now, its been a nightmare trying to get all the parts together  :rolleyes: but does anyone no where i can get a secondhand power steer pipe from the pump vein to the steering rack but of a 6 speed box ???

Theres a breaker in matlock who breaks only mk4s he got a sh!t load of parts. I went to him again on sunday. If you want hisndetails pm me. He has alot of stuff TRUST ME lol
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: mattyfairbro240579 on 08 October 2013, 22:27
After careful consideration im not putting the 6 speed box on now !!!  :undecided: sticking to the 5 speed unit and going to go down the route of fitting a LSD and quaifile gear box instead

Any one have any ideas of how to go about doing this now ???
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: Prawny on 15 October 2013, 20:15
Shame man.

Going 6 speed was one of the best things I ever did for the car, feels amazing.
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: barrym381 on 15 October 2013, 20:50
Shame man.

Going 6 speed was one of the best things I ever did for the car, feels amazing.
and is much better on a motorway cruise  :smiley:
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: Prawny on 15 October 2013, 21:10
Shame man.

Going 6 speed was one of the best things I ever did for the car, feels amazing.
and is much better on a motorway cruise  :smiley:

Now, this is an odd topic this one.

On Paper, it's really very little difference between 5th on the 5 speed and 6th on the 6 speed.

The difference in RPM at 70 isn't much at all, and I didn't expect to notice any difference.

but my god, it's REALLY different isn't it?

SOOOO much quieter and more calm on the motorway!
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: barrym381 on 15 October 2013, 22:02
Shame man.

Going 6 speed was one of the best things I ever did for the car, feels amazing.
and is much better on a motorway cruise  :smiley:

Now, this is an odd topic this one.

On Paper, it's really very little difference between 5th on the 5 speed and 6th on the 6 speed.

The difference in RPM at 70 isn't much at all, and I didn't expect to notice any difference.

but my god, it's REALLY different isn't it?

SOOOO much quieter and more calm on the motorway!
ten times better than the 5 speed for the motorway  :wink: i even got back from r-tech on just over half a tank sitting at 70ish
Title: Re: Putting a Cupra R 6 speed box onto my 5 speed AGU what clutch do i go for ???
Post by: Wazzzer on 15 October 2013, 22:43
Absolutely pointless for me lol