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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: stiggy786 on 24 September 2013, 22:55
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After months of silently reading this forum (weirdly feel I know some of you already) finally decided to join in the fun.
Pretty much as the title says, I want to know what the bottom line is for you guys who have/are been/going through the ordering, waiting and delivery process.
Reading your stories over the last few months have really scared me about taking the plunge, but I love the car. It's been one of my dreams to own a new GTI since I was 16 and I promised myself that when I achieved my first dream of becoming a doctor I would save up and treat myself!
Went to my dealer yesterday, we are trying to hammer out a deal. We are still a way off it but it exists somewhere.
I'm looking to buy this:
- GTI 5dr manual
- Pure white
- Perf Pack
- Panoramic
- Sat nav (standard)
VW list price is approx £29,400
I would like to know what you think about the following:
- What sort of discount would you think is a good deal for this car? What is the max cash price you would pay?
- Dealer says looking at Jan delivery if I order by the end of the month, but when should I realistically expect it?
- Are any of these options waste of money, likely to be faulty, delay the car?
- Has anyone used brokers e.g. DTD and what are the pros/cons?
- Is it all worth the wait, being messed around, and the cash?
Reading all your trials and tribulations have made me very weary (and sorry to hear), buying a new car should be one of the best experiences but at the same time when you're forking out £25+ grand I'd want to know the honest facts.
Thanks for checking this out, looking forward to meeting you on other threads, and hope you have a strict be nice to newbies rule. cheers!
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10%-12% off the price doing well! And no when you take delivery it will be all worth while.
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You will moan for months as VW keep you in the dark and possibly delay your build by weeks. When you finally get it though, yiu will know it was worth the wait. Best case discount is about £3500, but bottom book on your p/x, or maybe get decent p/x and £2k off.
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Welcome to the forum.
To try and answer a few if your questions
1) discounts on these cars are proving harder to come by due to the demand being so great. The dealers seem to be able to offer discounts if you add a few options so perhaps look for about £1000 off and see what they say.
2) your looking at about anywhere between 16 and 24 weeks just now so if you order just now I'd say expect delivery round about end of January maybe into February.
3) all options can be seen as a luxury. You have to live with the car for 3-4 years so go for what you can afford. Don't over stretch yourself but try to have as few regrets as possible. Perf pack was a definite for me, thereafter it was what I could afford. Keyless entry is excellent and the standard sat nav is very good.
4) quite a few on here have used DTD and they are very reputable. They put you straight in touch with a VW dealer so no worries about warranty or anything like that. You will likely get a much bigger discount through DTD but sometimes their orders may not take priority over directly going to a dealer so may add to the delivery time. Other than that they are perfectly sound.
5) the waiting is a killer but the car is certainly worth it and if it's something you have wanted since a young boy then what's another 4-5 months. Alternatively you could always try and source a cancelled order or even consider purchasing a demo.
Good luck with you choice. You will love it if you go for it and this forum will keep you entertained :smiley:
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DTD are good, and the dealer my car is being sourced from have given me realistic details regarding lead in times / estimated build week.
THe discount when I ordered via DTD was around 12%, but I had also managed to get a local dealer down to around 9%.
I'd say Jan was just about possible for build (I ordered in early July, and an expecting my car late Oct / early Nov), sometime in Feb may be more realistic.
I'll let you know if the wait is worth while in a few weeks time when I get behind the wheel!
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Thanks all for your feedback so far
DTD are good, and the dealer my car is being sourced from have given me realistic details regarding lead in times / estimated build week.
How close to you (geographically) is your allocated dealer, have you been able to pop in and speak to someone directly after DTD brokered the deal on your behalf? I like to do business face to face but money talks and the 12% DTD offer is tempting. Do DTD guarantee that you'll pay the price they quote on screen, or can you later discover that no dealer was able to meet that price?
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Congrats on becoming a doctor!
I didn't get much of a discount to be honest (8%?), I had to order and be sure I got a car before my old one needed the annual spending in December and I didn't go for a broker as I wanted a dealership close to me.
I had no idea it really would be a 5+ month wait. Still I have wanted a GTI since my late teens and circumstances and insurance have prevented me from doing it but now I am (hopefully) only a few weeks away from having one.
I am not sure but I would be skeptical of a January delivery, given that I ordered in July and I am expecting delivery "by the end of December". And the dealer I ordered with mentioned March/April delivery for new orders, could be the factory doesn't run over xmas and new year or something?
Anyway if I were you I would drive as many as you can, spec what you want, order from DTD or similar and settle down for the wait. :D
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Tried to PM but you haven't posted enough.
I advise keeping the options light. I'd drop the PP, why do you need it, are you going on track? Keep the cost down to get value for money. Go to DTD but beware that people are struggling to get the discounts that were possible at launch. The wait may be 20+ weeks but hard to be sure.
Like you I always wanted a GTI. It's a great car, but in comparison to some rivals it's pricy. So are you after the GTI image or the GTI performance? If its the image then it's second to none. If its performance then maybe shop around before deciding.
PS: No one on here is going to say its not worth it, so you have your answer in that sense. :wink:
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Drive the deal are still offering discounts of over 11%. Really, it's like buying through a dealer.... once you have ordered via them ALL further dealings are between you and the dealer. My car is built, it was ordered in May, plus you get that discount off all the options as well. Drive the Deal get paid a £3-400 introduction fee by the dealer.
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In terms of discount my best advice would be to shop around. I got 10% discount on a fairly basic spec plus a good px price. That did mean I ended up buying from a dealer 80 miles away and spending a lot of time sending lots of emails but worth it in the end.
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Hi I ordered my car through DTD, was also a bit nervous - but a piece of cake. Would do it again no problem. Placed order with DTD then received call from a VW main dealer in Kent, went through order (5 door, pure white, manual, Adaptive chassis control) and that was it. Ordered in May received September.
Not bothered about PP, but had to have ACC as had it in my MK6 GTI and liked it a lot.
The car is awesome and I cant fault it. The parking brake is so easy and all-round a brilliant motor. With the ACC in comfort mode it drives like a car costing twice as much, it's expensive but you can see and feel where the money has gone - it fact it's so good I consider it a bargain.
My bother in law has the new BMW 3 series and I would say the VW is a better car.
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True it definitely pays to shop around. I think the key is not to form an emotional attachment to any one vendor, although the emotional attachment to the car already gives you a weaker hand in negotiations.
DTD is appealing but being allocated a dealer far away is a gamble. I've never bought a car through a broker before but your experiences above are somewhat reassuring. I wonder if the after sales service will be ambivalent/indifferent since I didn't bother coming in and meeting them to build a relationship. Is it the case that the dealers who can offer 12% are really in trouble and they may not be keen to offer much service after the sell.
It comes down to what price to put on face-to-face business, geographical proximity, ongoing relationship and service. IF things go smoothly then I don't need much dealer interaction but in the case that anything goes wrong or delayed, I would want to know that within a short driving distance I can turn up and apply some pressure. On the other hand DTD may manage to broker the deal with the dealers in my area (who have been lying to me about their best price!) and I'll be quids in. Is there any way to find out which dealer your car will be brokered from before handing over cash via DTD?
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Some distance to the dealer may not be a huge disadvantage. It gives you the opportunity to make a trip of it on collection day anyway. Its probably only an issue if problems occur like having to reject the car, or return it after a few days. Hopefully the above would be relatively rare.
You can ask them what their procedure is in the event of after sales trouble. Do it by email and press for their procedure in the event of minor problems (say if you need something checked but can't afford time and effort to do a 200 mile round trip for it) so you get it on record what they would do while they are still in the "suck up to you to make a sale" period. Basically you want them to say they'd collect the car at their expense for big issues, or they'd arrange a local dealer to support you on small issues or questions.
[EDIT: If you don't feel like they are being helpful then just don't use them. My VW dealer was pretty crap to be honest. They didn't communicate and when I contacted them they were fairly dismissive and I got the impression they thought I was a nusience. Questions I asked were misunderstood and answers that were given were blunt with little effort to "sell" something. A take it or piss off attitude. When I did eventually cancel they didn't want to hear why or have me fill in a satisfaction survey. If I did it again I'd not go with anyone showing the above warning signs.]
As I understand it once you are beyond the initial few days/weeks it can be looked after through the usual VW network, so you can go to your local dealer. As far as building a relationship goes my experience (limited as it is) has been that dealers are large operations now and the sales department are typically somewhat removed from the service side. So even if you have a relationship with the sales person at best they will have only limited influence over the service side anyway.
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Think the answer to worth wait will be a resounding yes as you will be purchasing a great car but that really applies to when purchasing any marquee car. When get into it for the first time all the time waiting just disappears in an instant.
Always wanted a Quattro as a kid and my excitement on finally getting one was off the scale and have loved it but scratch itched and it is onto the Golf now.
Think your comment with regards always wanting one since a little boy is the read decider as what is another 5 months when waited that long and satisfaction and smile on face is guaranteed.
Options is most personal and subjective thing on this forum so only way to do that is go see and play with them as you have an advantage over many here who bought blind as there are quite a few demos now.
My options are below in my footer and feel with all the standard options that is a pretty decent package.
Mine is lease but from all seen said on DD I would definitely as a private got best price from dealer direct and DD and if DD werre better used them without hesitation.
Wish you well :smiley:
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The only aftersales issue you have with buying via broker are any issues not properly picked up with PDI that may become apparent later (suspension transport pucks not removed, for example). For something like that, the remedial cost is with the supplying dealer and not with VW. For anything else, the warranty will pick it up and you can go to any dealer for that.
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I have taken the plunge. I got 10% off the car, and a very good price for my part exchange so both dealer and I were happy to sign on the line - thanks to all for their advice.
Have officially joined the waiting club. Wonder how I will spend the next 5-6 months...will start by designing the tagline to appear below my posts!
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I have taken the plunge. I got 10% off the car, and a very good price for my part exchange so both dealer and I were happy to sign on the line - thanks to all for their advice.
Have officially joined the waiting club. Wonder how I will spend the next 5-6 months...will start by designing the tagline to appear below my posts!
Good stuff!
Was just reading your spec below your message and thought it said 'Roofless' :grin:
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Stiggy,
Just ordered myself yesterday too. I'm overseas so will have to wait for my order no. a bit - I guess we'll be in the same boat with regards timescales then!
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I have taken the plunge. I got 10% off the car, and a very good price for my part exchange so both dealer and I were happy to sign on the line - thanks to all for their advice.
Have officially joined the waiting club. Wonder how I will spend the next 5-6 months...will start by designing the tagline to appear below my posts!
Good stuff!
Was just reading your spec below your message and thought it said 'Roofless' :grin:
Well I've certainly got plenty of time to perfect it!
Gnash, good one! which spec did you go for?
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I have taken the plunge. I got 10% off the car, and a very good price for my part exchange so both dealer and I were happy to sign on the line - thanks to all for their advice.
Have officially joined the waiting club. Wonder how I will spend the next 5-6 months...will start by designing the tagline to appear below my posts!
Good stuff!
Was just reading your spec below your message and thought it said 'Roofless' :grin:
Well I've certainly got plenty of time to perfect it!
Gnash, good one! which spec did you go for?
gone for a 3dr in pure white with performance pack, vienna leather, dynaudio, keyless, park assist and high beam assist - and yes, the last 2 were added as they were cheap as chips! Just wish I could have got the rear view camera too.