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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: zaklfc9 on 24 September 2013, 16:28
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Can I make a Golf MK5 look exactly like a MK5 GTI?
Basically could I make this:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/volkswagen-golf-20-gt-tdi-3dr-diesel-hatchback-2004/1033094689
Look like this:
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/mk5-golf-gti-dsg-fully-loaded/1033070681
Like a £1500 difference, currently I dont care about performance, just entirely going by looks. Would this be worth the time and effort?
Advice would be most welcome as im a total novice when it comes to cars. Looking to buy an MK5 in the next few weeks.
Thanks in advance.
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Why not buy the real thing...a replica is always a wannabe.
At £1500 difference you might as well buy the GTI! A replica could cost the price difference anyway.
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If you want to build a replica, you have to consider the time it'll take to source parts. Also, are you going for genuine parts or cheap copies? Genuine parts will fit better but by the time you pay the difference, getting it sprayed and colour coded, spend the time fitting it and then insuring it... Just get a GTI.
Alternatively, do something different and take bits of things you like and blend it on your car. For example, I have a GTI, but I'm fitting R32 rear bumper and side skirts, Edition 30 front spoiler, different alloys... You get the idea.
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Lads cheers for the replies, I think I needed a little prod to just go out and buy 1!!
Having thought about it I agree that the 1500-2000 difference is not much and I'll be going for the real thing.
Would anyone know how much getting a GTI wrapped would cost?
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Does anyone know of any commonly known problems / faults the MK5 may have?
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In terms of getting it wrapped, no idea.
2 common known faults that I know of;
- Diverter valve was a know weak spot, worth replacing with the upgraded unit, available from main dealer (part number 06F 145 710G) or check out Awesome GTI below
http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golfmk5/oem-2-0t-diaphragm-diverter-valve-06f-145-710g
- Coil packs were re-called by Volkswagen I believe, so if you take your car into a main dealer they will replace free of charge so I'm led to believe.
Also worth mentioning, when you buy a car, check for obvious signs of abuse. If you're not sure how to test suspension, brakes, clutch, gears and engine then let me know. I'm no expert but I've seen enough cars to know a good one. So far my GTI hasn't let me down. Nor did my 1991 GTI (threw a hissy fit from time to time though). :-)
Personally in your shoes, I'd buy a car that's due service work as it'll be cheaper then you can spend the money slowly over a few months doing it up. I should of replaced the parts like brakes with the upgrade rather than stock parts but live and learn!
And finally, DON'T RUSH! There's loads of Mk5 GTI's for sale in the UK so a good one is not hard to find, so don't settle on the first one you see. Try them out, get a feel for good and bad examples.
I wish you luck in your quest for finding a GTI and joining the force.
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Three questions........
1) why would you want to make a 'replica' GTI.......? Nothing more embarrassing than all 'show' no go....... (Show in inverted commas due to the real thing not being very showy)
2) what would possess you to buy a 2nd hand car and wrap it. I believe it's over the 1k mark for a cheap job, if I was purchasing from you in the future and car was wrapped I would demand it was stripped off as I would think it was wrapped to hide something.
3) if you are setting a budget, perhaps a mk5 gti isn't for you. They CAN (although not always) have killer repair bills like any 'performance' car. For instance, my DSG mechatronics unit was just under 2k fitted. Nothing else was done except a new unit and fresh fluid. Not exactly cheap motoring. As it was a 10k motor at the time, it was worth doing. Had it been a 5ker like many higher mileage/2005 models are, it would have been binned off.........
I would definitely read some buying guides on here, decent reviews on Pistonheads etc as buying a car on looks alone is ridiculous........
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I would have to agree, my GTI cost me nearly £2000 in total for all the service and other bits I've had done to it. It's worth it, for a GTI is just awesome, but do be aware that if you're on a budget they can sting you.
What about going for a Mk4 1.8T (170BHP) instead?
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I would have to agree, my GTI cost me nearly £2000 in total for all the service and other bits I've had done to it. It's worth it, for a GTI is just awesome, but do be aware that if you're on a budget they can sting you.
What about going for a Mk4 1.8T (170BHP) instead?
Sorry but i did chuckle at your suggestion :grin:
If you want a good handling, quick car out of the box the MK5 is light years ahead of the MK4 and its what I would be buying :smiley:
Replace items like the DV, coilpacks and PCV valve, stick some fresh oil in it, filters, plugs etc and enjoy
Then remap it :evil:
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I'm aware of the Mk4 many... many... many shortfalls, but I wrote that after reading an article in PVW on a Mk4 that looked beautiful. Now sat here with a cup of tea I realise that I may of been wrong. I apologise.
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I'm aware of the Mk4 many... many... many shortfalls, but I wrote that after reading an article in PVW on a Mk4 that looked beautiful. Now sat here with a cup of tea I realise that I may of been wrong. I apologise.
MK4 is arguably the better looking but performance wise its way behind the times which is to be expected as it was designed in the 90's!!
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Some 90's performance is still awesome, even today as emissions didn't count as much prior to 2001. Sadly, VW have NEVER impressed me on power or fun. Fanboys argue 'yeah but with a remap' etc etc they're awesome........ Well so is any car (within reason, more FI cars than NA). Off the top of my head, 5 cars from the 90's that kick ass are......
E36 M3 and Evo (same economy as mk5, 100bhp more)
e39 M5
300zx TT SWB
DC2 Type R
Evo 5
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As others have said. Dont bother trying to make a rep, it will be a waste of time and money.
Also dont bother with a wrap, just buy it in the colour you want. What kind of spec are you after?
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Some 90's performance is still awesome, even today as emissions didn't count as much prior to 2001. Sadly, VW have NEVER impressed me on power or fun. Fanboys argue 'yeah but with a remap' etc etc they're awesome........ Well so is any car (within reason, more FI cars than NA). Off the top of my head, 5 cars from the 90's that kick ass are......
E36 M3 and Evo (same economy as mk5, 100bhp more)
e39 M5
300zx TT SWB
DC2 Type R
Evo 5
I would be inclined to agree in a sense, as yes, most VW's have always felt a bit restrained, scared to go completely nuts... Until the R division was allowed out to play.
But I always get asked "Why do you love VW so much?" and the simple answer is "Same reason I breath air. Just one of those things...".
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Thanks for the replies guys!
I dont even like standard MK5 never mind a MK4. I will defiantly be buying a MK5 GTI 05/06.
If I avoid the DSG what other parts can be costly? Also on average what are you guys spending yearly for servicing and general wear and tear. I know the DSG can cost around 2k so im just going for a manual!
Also most the ones im looking at are around 80.000 miles on the clock most going over 100. If they have been serviced correctly, cam belt changed after 70-80k miles etc then am I okay with buying one thats done 100.000 miles or should I definitely look for something around 50-70.000 miles?
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AlanD - again without sounding like a complete tw*t, i have no idea of the differences in spec!
Anyone able to give me a quick low-down regarding spec and differences please.
The only thing ive made a decision on is that it will def be atleast 05, avoiding DSG as I would be wounded if i had to replace it for 2k!
What do you guys think of this,I Like the monzas but the R32 rims stand out a little more to me?
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/vw-golf-gti-2005-white-3dr-dsg/1033338985
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OK, first off that's DSG Golf, so it contradicts what you have said one post ago.
Personally, 12,000 per year of the car, good full history, cam belt changed at 60,000 miles is essential and just make sure that the VW schedule has been kept, go to any dealer website and check it out. I got my golf at 70,000 miles, full history but it had missed it's cam belt and other bits, but only paid £7,250.
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Thanks for the replies guys!
I dont even like standard MK5 never mind a MK4. I will defiantly be buying a MK5 GTI 05/06.
If I avoid the DSG what other parts can be costly? Also on average what are you guys spending yearly for servicing and general wear and tear. I know the DSG can cost around 2k so im just going for a manual!
Also most the ones im looking at are around 80.000 miles on the clock most going over 100. If they have been serviced correctly, cam belt changed after 70-80k miles etc then am I okay with buying one thats done 100.000 miles or should I definitely look for something around 50-70.000 miles?
I'll save ya the hassle...... Mines a Black 2008 with 59k. Cambelt and tensioners, new mechatronics done between 50 and 55k. DSG oil and full service done around 600 miles ago. FSH up to that. No dents, interior literally as new, leathers, winter pack, exterior clayed twice in my ownership, waxed monthly and washed weekly. I am the 2nd owner. Pm me if ya like........?
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Dammit! Even I'm tempted, lol!
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Mike, The car I put up wasnt to say thats what I will buy but for the price it was listed at I wanted to know if that was a reasonable price as the going price for mileage around 70-110k seems around £4500 - £5500.
Like I said I will definitely go for one without the DSG as I wouldn't to take a 2k hit at any point and looking to keep the car for a few years. I can deal with the normal wear and tear, servicing and problems here and there but 2k at one point seems alot when the car is costing 5k.
VWFIEND - Thanks for the offer but Im almost certain that will be out of my price range : )
5k and you got a deal lol
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Mike, The car I put up wasnt to say thats what I will buy but for the price it was listed at I wanted to know if that was a reasonable price as the going price for mileage around 70-110k seems around £4500 - £5500.
Like I said I will definitely go for one without the DSG as I wouldn't to take a 2k hit at any point and looking to keep the car for a few years. I can deal with the normal wear and tear, servicing and problems here and there but 2k at one point seems alot when the car is costing 5k.
VWFIEND - Thanks for the offer but Im almost certain that will be out of my price range : )
5k and you got a deal lol
will sell you an a3 with the same engine for 5k :wink:
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im in the same shoes you are.
Wanted the GT TDI but then fallen in love with the GTI.
And now my heart says GTi and my brain says go for diesel (economy)........ :whistle:
But i know if i will get the GT TDI then my heart will look after the GTI and i wont enjoy it.
Il go for it and we shell see, im doing 10 - 12k a year and fuel diference of 600 pounds from the TDI
So if that much costs to enjoy my car and have fun the sod it .
Less beer more miles :D :cool:
and budget wise, maybe for the winter it will drop but you need around 6k mark to find a "good " one.
Don't forget to check the rubber