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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GolfTi on 13 September 2013, 19:04

Title: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 13 September 2013, 19:04
Currently on 4.5k including a trip to Berlin.

No stone chips whatsoever so far, I seem to remember the mk6 being peppered by this stage and having a mini respray done.

Maybe the paint is a bit better? Maybe the ACC helps?

Then again I still have a british winter to get through. :undecided:
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: CraigW on 13 September 2013, 19:16
Very reluctant to comment on this thread as fate is sure to play a cruel card  :grin: :grin:

However, I cannot for the life of me see why ACC would prevent stone chips. You can be as far back from the car in front and still get struck by a stone that has been spun through another wheel at 70mph plus
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: JoeGTI on 13 September 2013, 19:25
I hadn't a single stone chip on my MK6 after 25k miles. My mk5 before that had quite a few. None on the mk7 yet. Pot luck I think.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 13 September 2013, 19:31
ACC, when used, keeps you well back from the car in front, that must reduce the chance of stone chips, even when not in use you get the display indicating you are too close.

And the  red, audible warning if you get van man close.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: CraigW on 13 September 2013, 19:49
ACC, when used, keeps you well back from the car in front, that must reduce the chance of stone chips, even when not in use you get the display indicating you are too close.

And the  red, audible warning if you get van man close.

Yes, but your not going to sit 100 meters back from the car in front and even at that distance you can get hit
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 13 September 2013, 19:54
Agreed.

Just maybe not as much.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 September 2013, 01:07
Please call it ADC, so confusing otherwise :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 14 September 2013, 08:38
ACC = Adaptive Cruise Control
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 September 2013, 11:02
ADC = Automatic distance control, much more relevant acronym when talking about the car  keeping it's distance from the car in front to minimise stone chips to avoid confusion with the adaptive chassis control (ACC also and DCC). VWs fault, why couldn't they call it ADC with CC?
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 14 September 2013, 11:04
Its called Adaptive Cruise Control in the car menus.

Not sure about the manual, I'll check later.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 September 2013, 11:30
Its called Adaptive Cruise Control in the car menus.

Not sure about the manual, I'll check later.

Don't know why they had to make things so confusing. Found a very handy thing with ADC/ACC/??? looking through the manual. You can set your safe distance for the warning system on the fly by pressing the central button in the set of buttons on the left side of the steering wheel. Could be handy if erring on the side of caution makes lots of false alerts or giving such a big gap that others are habitually pulling in, in front of you. Keep pressing it and a graphic shows a view in front of the car with a bar that flits between the 5 distance settings.

Handier than stumbling through the menus while on the move.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: Ricepop on 14 September 2013, 11:56
ADC vs ACC
Maybe we are oversimplifying it.

Active Distance control- This is the cars ability to keep its distance from the car in front.

ACC Adaptive cruise control- This statement doesn't mean the same thing, it indicates that the cruise control has the ability to adapt to different situations. It may be a higher function of the cruise control for example

ACC has several systems including City emergency braking, Front assist, Post collision braking, ADC, Lane assist and the speed limiter.

I'm no expert but it may explain why there are different terms.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 September 2013, 13:48
Its a bad idea to use ACC in my opinion.  Talking about adaptive/dynamic chassis control its best to use DCC, talking about cruise its best to use ADC.  If you use ACC then its ambiguous if its the chassis or the cruise that is being refereed to.  Not to mention that ACC can also mean automatic climate control as well!

If you stick to ADC and DCC then there is no confusion.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 14 September 2013, 14:07
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy244/darrong/IMG_0567.jpg) (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/darrong/media/IMG_0567.jpg.html)

(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy244/darrong/IMG_0568.jpg) (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/darrong/media/IMG_0568.jpg.html)

(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy244/darrong/IMG_0569.jpg) (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/darrong/media/IMG_0569.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 September 2013, 14:13
We all know you are "right" mate you don't need to prove it.  I'm just saying to avoid confusion don't use ACC.  There are so many threads on here talking about ACC that end up with people talking cross-purposes and and this is yet another one.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 14 September 2013, 14:17
I don't understand.

Why not call it ACC if that is the correct term?
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 September 2013, 14:23
Well maybe it is just me but when someone says ACC I don't know if they mean the cruise or the chassis or half a dozen other things.  DCC and ADC are unambiguous so isn't it better to use them instead?  ACC seems to most commonly be used to refer to the chassis.  Sometimes you can figure it out from context but I find there is always some doubt what people mean, either the OP or the replies to it.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 14 September 2013, 14:36
There is no mention of ADC in the manual or car menus.

ACC is Adaptive Cruise Control

DCC is Adaptive Chasisis Control (yes, this one is confusing,  Dynamic Chassis Control would have been better).

Not helped at all by the fact some of these have changed since the mk6.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: EpicUsername on 14 September 2013, 14:48
This topic hurts my head  :cry:

(http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/1906/175792-mind_blown_super.jpg)

I'm going to have to write these on a sticky note and leave them on the steering wheel. For a month at least.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 September 2013, 14:50
There is no mention of ADC in the manual or car menus.

ACC is Adaptive Cruise Control

DCC is Adaptive Chasisis Control (yes, this one is confusing,  Dynamic Chassis Control would have been better).

Not helped at all by the fact some of these have changed since the mk6.

Well you'll need to go educate everyone to this because most people use ACC to mean chassis control, not cruise control.  Here is an example from today: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254838.msg2381915#msg2381915

I propose its just so much easier to not use ACC at all and go with DCC and ADC since everyone knows what those terms mean.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 September 2013, 15:01
This topic hurts my head  :cry:

(http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/1906/175792-mind_blown_super.jpg)

I'm going to have to write these on a sticky note and leave them on the steering wheel. For a month at least.

Very apt pic. Short story is that VW need to stop referring to the adjustable damping system in UK literature as ACC, just call it DCC like they do in the car's menus and like they do in literature for every EU country except GB and Eire.
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: GolfTi on 14 September 2013, 15:49

Sticky maybe?
Might prevent any further head explosions. Jimble? Doc?

(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy244/darrong/IMG_0573.jpg) (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/darrong/media/IMG_0573.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: simonpolly on 14 September 2013, 15:58
This topic hurts my head  :cry:

(http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/1906/175792-mind_blown_super.jpg)

I'm going to have to write these on a sticky note and leave them on the steering wheel. For a month at least.

 :grin: :laugh: you wait until the actually drive the mk7 there are so many bells and whistles its a wonder you don't smash into the car in front while trying to figure out what they all do :grin:
Title: Re: Paint
Post by: EpicUsername on 14 September 2013, 16:17
:grin: :laugh: you wait until the actually drive the mk7 there are so many bells and whistles its a wonder you don't smash into the car in front while trying to figure out what they all do :grin:

When I test drove it I had a little play with the computer before setting off, but while driving I was enjoying it so much I didn't even think to try and of the 5 million buttons  :grin: