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Title: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 12 September 2013, 21:32
Hi everyone, I have a mk4 1.8t 2000 running around 228bhp with APR maps installed and various other engine mods, when I give it some from first gear and go for second it carries on revving? Sometimes into the red? It did it tonight in 3rd as it started to spin due to wet roads? But really went into the red? i was giving it some at the time but sure it shouldn't carry on revving? Also it never does it when driving sensibly I have already fitted a new clutch pedal switch as thought it could of been that but still doing it.  Any advice would be appreciated..

Thanks Carl
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Nino on 12 September 2013, 21:37
sounds like your TB is sticking, when was the last time you cleaned it?
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Post by: Carl18T on 12 September 2013, 21:59
Hi thanks for that. I've only had the car for around 3 weeks so not cleaned it at all yet, but must say I've not thought of that at all so tomorrow it will be cleaned. My last 18t was a 98 so there was no TB.
Thanks again!
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Nino on 12 September 2013, 22:07
Np, let us know if it cures the problem :)
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Post by: barrym381 on 12 September 2013, 23:49
Hi thanks for that. I've only had the car for around 3 weeks so not cleaned it at all yet, but must say I've not thought of that at all so tomorrow it will be cleaned. My last 18t was a 98 so there was no TB.
Thanks again!
of coarse your last 1.8t had a tb  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Wayne on 13 September 2013, 00:03
Are you sure the clutch is not slipping  :undecided:
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Post by: Nino on 13 September 2013, 06:41
Are you sure the clutch is not slipping  :undecided:

Good point Wayne I didn't think of that  :undecided:
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Post by: Rhyso on 13 September 2013, 10:37
Are you sure the clutch is not slipping  :undecided:

Good point Wayne I didn't think of that  :undecided:

Try a full throttle run in 3rd / 4th gear from approx 30mph and see what happens. Does sound very much like your clutch  :undecided:  but cleaning out your TB is a quick and easy job; free too if you're handy with some tools  :smiley:
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Post by: navmk4gti on 13 September 2013, 11:59
That sounds like the clutch is slipping
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Post by: harlemex on 13 September 2013, 14:48
mine does this too. Its not the clutch cos it revs like crazy when i clutch in to change gear  :shocked:
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 14 September 2013, 13:22
Hi again, sorry not been on for a few days.  Its not the clutch as its fine when accelerating pulls really well and no slipping at all. But if i rev it to much like say close to the red when i dip the clutch to change up a gear the revs just carry on going. Dont worry either ive lifted off the pedal.
Thanks again
Carl
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 14 September 2013, 14:02
Hi again, Im back from test run after cleaning TB which was not bad anyway, just a little bit of carbon around the butterfly, bad news is its still doing it. first and second if i give it enough revs before shifting up a gear? Went into the red before revs came back down the other issue with this is you cannot get it into the next gear until the revs have dropped enough.
Any further advise would help a lot!
thanks
Carl
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Nino on 14 September 2013, 18:12
Your TB cable driven or electronic? If its cable driven the cable could be getting stuck?
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 14 September 2013, 21:57
Electronic so no cable? I really don't know what else to try.
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Post by: gazareth on 14 September 2013, 23:27
Your TB cable driven or electronic? If its cable driven the cable could be getting stuck?
hey that's what I said you info thief.
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Post by: gazareth on 14 September 2013, 23:44
Your TB cable driven or electronic? If its cable driven the cable could be getting stuck?
hey that's what I said you info thief.
maybe the cyborgs are finally taking over and their using you as a test piece.
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Post by: james18t on 15 September 2013, 12:32
Could this be map related? I know some maps come with a brake and boost function.. I think how it works is similar to left foot braking, but the computer keeps the accelerator planted while you brake, so you still have boost ready when accelerating out of a corner. I don't really know the ins and outs but could be something to look into.
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Nino on 15 September 2013, 14:38
Your TB cable driven or electronic? If its cable driven the cable could be getting stuck?
hey that's what I said you info thief.

Huh?  :huh:
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: gazareth on 15 September 2013, 18:20
Your TB cable driven or electronic? If its cable driven the cable could be getting stuck?
hey that's what I said you info thief.

Huh?  :huh:
ah its looks like my post didn't make it through for some reason :angry:
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 15 September 2013, 20:09
Thanks for all the help and thoughts. I've been scratching all weekend and still can't think of what it could be. I've had it plugged in as well but that didn't show anything apart from the stat so replaced that but knew that needed doing as it took ages to warm up. Thinking of taking it to my local VW Audi specialist psi tuning this week to see if they know anything.
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Post by: harlemex on 16 September 2013, 20:58
mine is exactly the same.  :sad:
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Post by: Carl18T on 18 September 2013, 18:19
Hi Harlemex I'm still trying to find out what's the cause of it? Have you got maps on your car? I'm trying to see if an APR map issue. Mine is getting on my tits now.
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Post by: harlemex on 20 September 2013, 12:04
mine has a revo stage 1, however it was doing it before the map. ok to drive slow, but as soon as you put your foot down abit, the problem happens. im gonna take it to revo next week, and ask them. will let you know.  :smiley:
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 20 September 2013, 16:05
Hi that would be worth trying see what they say.  Mine is really doing my head in now.  Let me know when you've been

cheers
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Post by: Carl18T on 25 September 2013, 20:49
Bump....
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Post by: jamie16v on 27 September 2013, 21:17
Clutch pedal switch maybe?
Oops just re read, already replaced it  :tongue: damn iphone
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 02 October 2013, 20:37
I've decided to stick a new clutch in to see if that sorts it. I have a feeling it is the clutch starting to slip but only when under high revs,
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Post by: harlemex on 02 October 2013, 21:37
went to revo today told him issue he just scratched his head. my car has started holding back on boost and kind of juddering. He said buy a new air mass meter and get new plugs. The ones I have are only a few months old (denso europarts cheapies) the engine is fine at low revs, he said my plugs read upto .8 instead of a maximum of .5 if anyone knows what that means? He also said the maf was reading 40grams, and that was low???
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Post by: Rhyso on 02 October 2013, 22:00
Just 40gms?? Oopps!!!

To run 200bhp it should be reading approx 160gms when producing its peak power

Unplug it and see if it runs better  :wink:  if it does its goosed
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: harlemex on 02 October 2013, 22:11
Just 40gms?? Oopps!!!

To run 200bhp it should be reading approx 160gms when producing its peak power

Unplug it and see if it runs better  :wink:  if it does its goosed
cheers Rhyso. seems mine is way off then  :cry: I just went for a spin with it unplugged and it felt the same. However when I plugged it back in and tried again it was as if I had a new car  :laugh: For now (at least) it seems to be running ace. How weird??
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Post by: Wazzzer on 02 October 2013, 22:25
My MAF was under reading first time I went for mapping
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: harlemex on 02 October 2013, 22:27
My MAF was under reading first time I went for mapping
did you have it replaced?
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Post by: Wazzzer on 02 October 2013, 23:38
No as it was a Saturday lol

I did eventually and it worked fine after that, until I destroyed the clutch
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Post by: james2 on 03 October 2013, 20:33
Does it still do it when the temputure is half way at normal running temp, should not do it then.
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: Carl18T on 07 October 2013, 21:21
Mine is worse in the morning when the choke is still on but still does it no matter what temperature it's at.
Title: Re: 1.8T reving when clutch down?
Post by: harlemex on 08 October 2013, 10:00
mine too