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Title: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 26 August 2013, 15:08
So the official VW roof rack is £240 but aftermarket ones are are about £190.

Has anybody used either? This would be my first roof rack and I'm only looking at them so I can carry cycles on the roof instead of hanging them off the rear hatch.

Any other suggestions welcomed :)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Hobojim on 26 August 2013, 15:12
Thule stuff is nice. Suspect the VW is just re branded Thule anyway.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 August 2013, 15:38
watch out for roof bars at lidl or aldi. exact vw fit for a fraction of the price.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: GtG on 26 August 2013, 16:19
Have been thinking about the same, do they come off easily though? I really don't want them on all the time.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: GolfTi on 26 August 2013, 16:31
The VW ones are excellent as you'd expect.

I did look into getting the Thule ones but the brackets for the mk 7 weren't available at the time.

Mk 6 bars/fittings do not fit.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 26 August 2013, 21:08
Seems that Thule have Mk7 brackets now.  Might look for a second hand set of bars on ebay and get the feet £79.99 ish.  Especially if VW is just re-branded Thule.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 26 August 2013, 21:19
Hmm in this thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=256473.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=256473.0) there is talk of a magic towbar - check the cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdjyirbaQP0&nomobile=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdjyirbaQP0&nomobile=1)

Now I'm thinking cool tow bar and one of those tow bar mounted bike racks - less chance of scratching my pant lifting bikes up on the roof!
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: RikWebb on 26 August 2013, 21:32
I have the Thule for my MK6 - excellent (and hope they fit the mk7)

If memory serves me - VW re-brand Thule
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 26 August 2013, 21:41
I have the Thule for my MK6 - excellent (and hope they fit the mk7)

If memory serves me - VW re-brand Thule

Do you use it often? I worry it about it damaging the paint a little over time...
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: RikWebb on 26 August 2013, 21:47
I have the Thule for my MK6 - excellent (and hope they fit the mk7)

If memory serves me - VW re-brand Thule

Do you use it often? I worry it about it damaging the paint a little over time...

Used 3 or 4 times - they have rubber to protect the paint, and also come with a re-useable rubbery / plastic sticker to protect the paint. In fact, I have just taken them off after a 2 week jaunt around France :)
Never had an issue with scratches or damage.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 27 August 2013, 11:08
No fancy tow bar for the UK market and might not even be possible with the GTI bumper says the dealer...  :cry:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: rick2b on 27 August 2013, 11:51
I had a quote of wait...... £1100 supply and installation of a towbar kit through VW.
Not too sure what type of towbar it was as I went no further with this after collapsing.
Think it may have been like the pop down version with pull handle in the boot, or whatever.
The dealer did however put me onto a local towbar specialist/spanner who'd do it for about 360quid. I have not gone down this road as yet because I don't fancy some grease monkey cutting a hole in the rear panel and it all going pete tong :undecided:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Buck on 28 August 2013, 00:25
I had a quote of wait...... £1100 supply and installation of a towbar kit through VW.
Not too sure what type of towbar it was as I went no further with this after collapsing.
Think it may have been like the pop down version with pull handle in the boot, or whatever.
The dealer did however put me onto a local towbar specialist/spanner who'd do it for about 360quid. I have not gone down this road as yet because I don't fancy some grease monkey cutting a hole in the rear panel and it all going pete tong :undecided:

I've got a towbar on my Mk6 GTD - it is removable and the lower bumper fascia has a clip in panel which makes it look almost original when not in use.

We only use the towbar for lugging the bikes around so didn't want a permanent fit.

I had it fitted in Bradford - not sure how far away that is from you?

Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Buck on 28 August 2013, 00:27
Similar to this

http://youtu.be/IjpMwzmcrno?t=1m5s
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 28 August 2013, 13:46
Similar to this

http://youtu.be/IjpMwzmcrno?t=1m5s

How much was that setup? 
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Buck on 28 August 2013, 20:50
Similar to this

http://youtu.be/IjpMwzmcrno?t=1m5s

How much was that setup?

£450 including towbar, fitting and the new valance
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Carlosmonkey on 31 August 2013, 07:36
Hi all new to forum.  Try having a look at the prorack whispbar with flush mounting and the thule 591 cycle carrier,I have it on my mark 6 gti and people comment on how good it looks.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 31 August 2013, 12:02
Hi all new to forum.  Try having a look at the prorack whispbar with flush mounting and the thule 591 cycle carrier,I have it on my mark 6 gti and people comment on how good it looks.

Welcome and thanks for the input :)   The whispbar does look nice, they don't seem to have one for the mk7 yet but I'm sure it's a matter of time.  How much was your setup on the mk6?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 17 September 2013, 22:08
Heads up, if anyone is after a set, there are some 5 door ones on ebay right now - get yourself a bargain

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK7-5-DOOR-ROOF-BARS-5G3071126-/221281789137?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Touring_Travel&hash=item33856c24d1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK7-5-DOOR-ROOF-BARS-5G3071126-/221281789137?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Touring_Travel&hash=item33856c24d1)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: lawrie on 18 September 2013, 17:56
I had a quote of wait...... £1100 supply and installation of a towbar kit through VW.
Not too sure what type of towbar it was as I went no further with this after collapsing.
Think it may have been like the pop down version with pull handle in the boot, or whatever.
The dealer did however put me onto a local towbar specialist/spanner who'd do it for about 360quid. I have not gone down this road as yet because I don't fancy some grease monkey cutting a hole in the rear panel and it all going pete tong :undecided:

I had a slightly cheaper quote from dealer but it was still expensive so I  went to fitter they recommended.  Towbar fine but could not code correctly as he did not have the latest software.  A complete shambles.  Dealer did not want to know..problem with warranty they said, wanted to charge for diagnostics etc etc.

Got the fitter firm to remove everything and got a refund.

Paid another VW dealer £900 for the same Westphalia detachable kit but they coded it correctly and to be honest, I was happy.

The Mk6 system of a detachable piece in the rear valance is not (as yet) available for the Mk7.  VW do supply a different valance (£90)! which I have and the hole cannot be seen.  Quite neat.

Also got a Thule easifold bike carrier (tow bar) and that is terrific.

Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: evo1986 on 18 September 2013, 18:22
So the official VW roof rack is £240 but aftermarket ones are are about £190.

Has anybody used either? This would be my first roof rack and I'm only looking at them so I can carry cycles on the roof instead of hanging them off the rear hatch.

Any other suggestions welcomed :)

pm'd
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Hobojim on 18 September 2013, 19:04
I'm after one as well, went into the dealers the other day and the VW is smart. but not worth 50 squids more. Past experience of Thule is its properly made stuff and will last.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 19 September 2013, 10:21
I'm after one as well, went into the dealers the other day and the VW is smart. but not worth 50 squids more. Past experience of Thule is its properly made stuff and will last.

My detective work online concludes that the VW stuff is Mont Blanc rebranded.  Pretty good quality kit.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: GolfTi on 19 September 2013, 10:39
The VW bars are excellent. Solid.

I think the Thule/other brand kits may need putting together from the various packs and will not look like the VW bars at all. I will try to look at the branding (if any) later.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 05 January 2014, 19:50
So I managed to pick up a brand new roof rack for my 3 door from the german ebay site for around £100 delivered.  A saving of nearly £150 over list price.

The other good news is that about 3 months ago (before I even got my car) I picked up two of the cycle carriers for the VW roof rack at £40 for the pair instead of about £90 each.

All in all very happy with these bargains.  I'll post some pics of it fitted the rack arrives (and the rain has stopped).
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Skinnee D on 06 January 2014, 07:11
I looked into the Thule 3-door kit which came in at about £190, but it included some intermediate load-bearing fixings for the 3 door which all looked a bit convoluted to me so I held off deciding for now.

I already have a Thule bike carrier but seemingly only VW's own carrier will fit their roof bars (somehow I doubt this is accidental...)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Skinnee D on 07 January 2014, 06:56
I'm after one as well, went into the dealers the other day and the VW is smart. but not worth 50 squids more. Past experience of Thule is its properly made stuff and will last.

My detective work online concludes that the VW stuff is Mont Blanc rebranded.  Pretty good quality kit.
I had a look on the Mont Blanc website.  In their application guide they list a roof bar for the 5 door Mk7, but not the 3 door Mk7 which is weird considering it does indeed look like the same product range as VW's branded ones.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: titusrider on 07 January 2014, 14:15
why is nobody putting bikes inside? That's what I'm doing

Safer (from theft and falling off!)
no impact on fuel economy
Protect car with an old mattress or duvet cover
take off front wheels and get two bikes two people
Take off both wheels and you will get 3 bikes three people

Can only understand if its a full family of four and 4 bikes
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 07 January 2014, 14:21
why is nobody putting bikes inside?

Safer (from theft and falling off1)
no impact on fuel economy
Protect car with an old mattress or duvet cover
take off front wheels and get two bikes two people
Take off both wheels and you will get 3 bikes three people

Can only understand if its a full family of four and 4 bikes

- Folding seats up/down all the time and removing parcel shelf is a pain if you do it every week
- Grease/dirt on the interior (or hassle of covering interior with cover)
- Jangling noises on the motorway
- Reduced passenger capacity
- Scuffing of interior
- Scratching of bikes if carrying more than one

 :smiley:

Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Gnasher on 07 January 2014, 15:09
why is nobody putting bikes inside? That's what I'm doing

Safer (from theft and falling off!)
no impact on fuel economy
Protect car with an old mattress or duvet cover
take off front wheels and get two bikes two people
Take off both wheels and you will get 3 bikes three people

Can only understand if its a full family of four and 4 bikes

I'd personally think it's safer having the bikes on the outside on a roof carrier or boot carrier is safer if you have an accident - the last thing anyone needs is bikes/parts flying round the interior.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 09 January 2014, 14:54
Official VW Roof rack in place;

(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/20140109_142920_1_zpscd7geqdn.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/20140109_142933_zps6ljamnb8.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/20140109_142911_1_zpsgrp79u72.jpg)

Gonna test out the cycle carrier over the weekend.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 11 January 2014, 16:53
Got the cycle carrier on there and tested out putting my bike on it, very happy with it  :cool:

(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/20140111_162224_zpsq54jmkc2.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: M1EWK on 16 April 2014, 22:30
Just picked up a brand new set of official VW bars from the dealers for my mk7 GTD. Tried fitting them tonight ready for taking the bikes away over Easter. Fitted the front bar fine. Came to fit the remaining bar to the back only to find the box contained 2 front bars rather than a front and a rear. So much for biking this weekend unless the dealer can get another set tomorrow .... : :sad:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Gnasher on 17 April 2014, 04:31
Just picked up a brand new set of official VW bars from the dealers for my mk7 GTD. Tried fitting them tonight ready for taking the bikes away over Easter. Fitted the front bar fine. Came to fit the remaining bar to the back only to find the box contained 2 front bars rather than a front and a rear. So much for biking this weekend unless the dealer can get another set tomorrow .... : :sad:

or they have given you a 5 door version which (I think) fixes the rear bar in a similair way to the front.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 17 April 2014, 09:21
Yeah sounds like a 5 door set to me, but still a big cock up on your dealer's front!   :sad:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: M1EWK on 21 April 2014, 21:30
Sorted eventually. The 3 door and 5 door rack kits seem to be the same apart from if you have 3 doors you get a plastic card to help lever the rear bar bracket under the window rubber. The front bars gave a raised peg which locates in a hole above the front door but the rear bar doesn't. In my kit there were actually 2 front bars which wasn't really the dealers fault. Anyway they got a replacement kit next day which was fine... Fortunately  :smiley:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 22 April 2014, 09:23
Glad you got it sorted, that rear one is a bit of a pain the first time you do it. I found subsequent times much easier though  :smiley:

Great that they put little arrows on the glass to show you where it should fit  :cool:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 April 2014, 16:23
Is the general consensus to go Mont Blanc route or stick with official VW roof bars? Does the roof bars screw into the hole thats in the door opening at the top?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: monsta on 28 April 2014, 21:05
Is the general consensus to go Mont Blanc route or stick with official VW roof bars? Does the roof bars screw into the hole thats in the door opening at the top?

Very happy with my VW ones, not sure if the Mont Blancs are cheaper? 

The fronts have a little metal thing that goes into a hole in the inside top edge of the front door frames then you tighten the clamps and it pulls down onto the car.  The rear (3 door) sticks in between the rear window and the roof, a little awkward the first time you do it (the recommend lubricating it with soapy water) but subsequent times it's quite easy.

Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 May 2014, 09:28
Has anyone tried the Whispbar roof bars? About 50 quid cheaper than vw but looks much the same fixings. I can't find any genuine vw ones at a sensible price. Dealer wouldn't do any discount at all!
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 26 May 2014, 22:13
Has anyone tried the Whispbar roof bars? About 50 quid cheaper than vw but looks much the same fixings. I can't find any genuine vw ones at a sensible price. Dealer wouldn't do any discount at all!

Genuine ones on eBay are available with a 10% discount.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 May 2014, 13:22
yes but when you factor in postage its no cheaper really
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: matt2 on 27 May 2014, 14:16
Has anyone tried the Whispbar roof bars? About 50 quid cheaper than vw but looks much the same fixings. I can't find any genuine vw ones at a sensible price. Dealer wouldn't do any discount at all!

Yes, I have them. They are great - no complaints at all. Not totally silent but make fasr less whistle than some other bars.

When I went from a Mk VI to the MK VII GTD, all I had ot do was buy new feet for the bars. Much cheaper.

I bought mine through roofbox.co.uk - great customer service.


Bars for 5 door http://www.roofbox.co.uk/scripts/rbvehsel3.php?emulate=whycar&query=8083&vptype=&producttype=Roof+Bars (http://www.roofbox.co.uk/scripts/rbvehsel3.php?emulate=whycar&query=8083&vptype=&producttype=Roof+Bars)
 
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 May 2014, 18:35
Cheers matt. Do you get rubber protection to stop paint damage?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: 205Rallee on 27 May 2014, 22:02
I tried fitting a Thule 973 backpac (I already had) with the Golf Mk7 fitting kit, to my Golf GTD. But as it attached to the front part of the plastic spoiler on the GTD's hatchback, I didn't fancy hanging the backpac and three mtb's off the door.

I looked at the VW genuine roof bars but they are expensive and IMHO I don't like the look of them. So I bought Whispbar through bars for the extra width and 3 Thule 591's from Roofbox.com. The bars are really neat and once the 591's are attached it's only a 5 minute job to take them off or put them on.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 28 May 2014, 08:02
yes but when you factor in postage its no cheaper really

Carriage is included.

I emailed wisperbar last week about when the 3dr will be available still waiting on a reply :whistle:

Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: zUgan on 28 May 2014, 09:21
Does anyone know if the Thule Proride 591 fits to the Official VW (Mont Blanc?) roof bars?

I have some aerobars and 2 591s from my previous car but prefer the look of the OEM bars.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 May 2014, 11:50
I tried fitting a Thule 973 backpac (I already had) with the Golf Mk7 fitting kit, to my Golf GTD. But as it attached to the front part of the plastic spoiler on the GTD's hatchback, I didn't fancy hanging the backpac and three mtb's off the door.

I looked at the VW genuine roof bars but they are expensive and IMHO I don't like the look of them. So I bought Whispbar through bars for the extra width and 3 Thule 591's from Roofbox.com. The bars are really neat and once the 591's are attached it's only a 5 minute job to take them off or put them on.
Did you get rubber protection strips to protect the paintwork?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 29 May 2014, 21:53
Having looked at the VW & Thule systems, I'm still unsure which to go for myself??? The VW ones look good (nice pics Monsta) but are a little expensive. The Thule (proven quality) set-up for the 3 door has the complicated extra short roof adaptor (774) which I've heard cause a little extra wind noise but are a little cheaper. So my dilemma is, buy a proven brand at a lower price V a better looking VW set at a higher price. Ideas anyone??

To top things off, I've heard that late '14 / early '15 3 door models will have a slightly modified roof to allow for 'fixed feet' mounts which eliminates the short roof adaptor for the Thule option and changes the foot pack to 753 instead of 754. As I don't pick my GTD up for another month, I don't have a clue if mine will have the modified roof or not!
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: GolfTi on 29 May 2014, 23:30
The VW ones are excellent.

The matching VW logos help if you have OCD like me :grin:

Using them tomorrow to pick up a ladder.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2014, 07:20
I think I'm going to go for some whispbars instead of VW ones.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 31 May 2014, 16:04
I've looked into the whispbar ones but they don't do anything for a Mk7 3 door :angry:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dirvy on 01 June 2014, 22:20
Used my new vw branded bars and logo cycle carriers today. Very impressed very clever.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 08 June 2014, 14:26
Set of genuine 5 dr bars on eBay at the moment starting at £75 buy it now £110 + carriage.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 21 June 2014, 16:39
How much extra height do the VW roof bars add to the car?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 19 July 2014, 09:32
Can you fit a Thule roof box to the VW roof bars?? I was just about to push the button on a set of Thule Aerobars and Thule Touring 780 roof box for my 3 dr when I noticed those god awful short roof adapters that also need bolting on. Now back to square one as I don't want to be carrying Forrest Gumps leg braces on either side of the roof too !! :sick: :sick:
Anyone heard when the Whispbars are going to be available for the 3dr?
The other thing is if the Thule roof box will fit do the VW roof bars have a T track slot in the top so you can fit the Thule T Track adapters to maximise the space in the box.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 19 July 2014, 09:47
JB GTI, that's exactly what I have done.

I trawled everywhere to see what the best combo of bars and box was and went for VW bars and a Thule Touring 780.

Thule bars still have to have the short roof adaptor which are horrible to look at. As of 2 weeks ago, whispbar don't do bars for the 3 door so VW bars are the only decent solution. They're pretty good too and easy to fit after the first go.

As for boxes, I considered all makes and models. I wanted a full width box with plenty of space so picked up the Thule 780 last week. Slightly worried that it may have been a little long for the golf but it fits perfect. If I knew how to upload photos, I'd be able to show ya how it looks?! And just to confirm, all Thule boxes will fit the VW bars.

If ya want a couple of pics, send me your email and I'll send a couple through. :smiley:


Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 19 July 2014, 10:16
JB GTI, that's exactly what I have done.

I trawled everywhere to see what the best combo of bars and box was and went for VW bars and a Thule Touring 780.

Thule bars still have to have the short roof adaptor which are horrible to look at. As of 2 weeks ago, whispbar don't do bars for the 3 door so VW bars are the only decent solution. They're pretty good too and easy to fit after the first go.

As for boxes, I considered all makes and models. I wanted a full width box with plenty of space so picked up the Thule 780 last week. Slightly worried that it may have been a little long for the golf but it fits perfect. If I knew how to upload photos, I'd be able to show ya how it looks?! And just to confirm, all Thule boxes will fit the VW bars.

If ya want a couple of pics, send me your email and I'll send a couple through. :smiley:

Thanks. Use Photobucket to upload photos it is really easy and free.
Also if you go on the global site for Whispbar if does show a fitment for 2014 3dr GTI but that looks like the North American markets. European site is down at the moment  :undecided:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 July 2014, 11:07
Would you buy the whispbars instead of VW ones if they were available for the 3dr?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 19 July 2014, 11:37
Would you buy the whispbars instead of VW ones if they were available for the 3dr?
Purely because they are normally a little cheaper to buy and I could leave them on without worrying about noise/extra fuel use, I probably would buy the Whispbar ones.

At higher speeds (90+) the VW bars create a bit of noise on their own and I've heard that Whispbars are really quiet but not having tried them, I wouldn't be able to say for sure.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 19 July 2014, 11:52
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p708/sigriffiths/02fb0a2e5dcbd8542702ba3308e6c6bf_zpsee327ca4.jpg)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 19 July 2014, 12:49
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p708/sigriffiths/02fb0a2e5dcbd8542702ba3308e6c6bf_zpsee327ca4.jpg)

Thanks. I have just been to my dealer and bought a set of the VW roof bars. Pushed a bit and got them for £192.
The box looks big. Is it full width on the golf ??
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 19 July 2014, 13:14
Yeah, it is big but it doesn't overhang the front and the boot opens all of the way with no problems. Yes again, it's full width (well, virtually). I looked at the touring 200 (similar width but a little shorter) and the motion 600 (long but narrow). Gotta take 2 adults and 2 kids to the south of France for a couple of weeks tomorrow so need the bigger space without compromising on too much style.

Take a look at the Thule website for a million and one different styles and sizes but buy elsewhere, I paid just less than £300 for the box which seemed the cheapest out there as far as I could find.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 19 July 2014, 18:11
I think I will probably go for the Thule Touring 200 then  :wink:
Thanks again for the info


Now ordered: Thule Touring 200. Will post a couple of photos so anyone interested can compare between the two different size roof boxes on a Mk7 Golf :undecided:

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg2_zps1ca669c6.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg2_zps1ca669c6.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg1_zps1bdc00d7.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg1_zps1bdc00d7.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg2_zps7914791c.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg2_zps7914791c.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg1_zps105f2f10.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg1_zps105f2f10.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: p3asa on 23 July 2014, 17:58
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p708/sigriffiths/02fb0a2e5dcbd8542702ba3308e6c6bf_zpsee327ca4.jpg)



Wouldn't mind seeing this from an end on shot if possible?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 24 July 2014, 20:45
Thule Touring 200 now fitted using VW Roof bars




Now ordered: Thule Touring 200. Will post a couple of photos so anyone interested can compare between the two different size roof boxes on a Mk7 Golf :undecided:

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg2_zps1ca669c6.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg2_zps1ca669c6.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg1_zps1bdc00d7.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg1_zps1bdc00d7.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg2_zps7914791c.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg2_zps7914791c.jpg.html)

(http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b632/Jlb01/imagejpg1_zps105f2f10.jpg) (http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Jlb01/media/imagejpg1_zps105f2f10.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: si.griffiths on 02 August 2014, 00:15
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p708/sigriffiths/02fb0a2e5dcbd8542702ba3308e6c6bf_zpsee327ca4.jpg)



Wouldn't mind seeing this from an end on shot if possible?
It looks the same as JB GTI's roof box from the front and rear. I'd post photos but I do everything from an iPad and haven't figured out how to blank out the number plate?!?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 05 August 2014, 21:09
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p708/sigriffiths/02fb0a2e5dcbd8542702ba3308e6c6bf_zpsee327ca4.jpg)



Wouldn't mind seeing this from an end on shot if possible?
It looks the same as JB GTI's roof box from the front and rear. I'd post photos but I do everything from an iPad and haven't figured out how to blank out the number plate?!?

So do I. I use iPhoto. It was already installed on my iPad. Just select brushes from the options on the bottom row then repair. Top tip. Use capacitive zoom to make the picture as big as possible to make a neater job of it.  :wink:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Sootchucker on 06 August 2014, 13:32
Hi guys, looking for a set of roof bars to suit my 5 door GTD. As has been mentioned, the genuine VW ones seem awfully expensive with the whispbar from (roofbox.co.uk) coming in quite a bit cheaper.

I do like the OEM flush fitting look, but according to the above website, the whispbar are also available in a flush fit like the VW ones, but have the advantage that just the foot packs need to be changed to suit a newer vehicle when eventually the Golf goes in years to come, which I quite like the idea of.

My question is, as I understand it, due to the aerodynamic profile of the whispbar, the bars themselves seem quite wide. I'm wondering if my existing bike rack (from a few years ago) will fit, or if that will have to be replaced as well. Are the VW genuine bars quite wide as well or are they alos aerodynamic profile in nature ?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: 205Rallee on 06 August 2014, 22:03
I bought Whispbar through bars for my Mk7 GTD 5 door as I wanted the extra width for 3 bikes. They are mega easy to take on/off once they are set up, are very low profile, make virtually no noise and have negligible effect on fuel economy. Also in the opinion of my teenage son they look so much better than the VW genuine ones which look really big and tall.

I've got 3 Thule pro ride 591's on the Whispbars and the bolts just slot into the track and the bike carrier is bolted onto that, I don't think it makes any difference how wide the bars are.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 08 August 2014, 18:36
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 09 August 2014, 18:38
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Push your dealer for a better discount. I got mine for £192.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 09 August 2014, 19:00
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Push your dealer for a better discount. I got mine for £192.

Yeah working on that salesman speaking to his parts dept Monday.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: 205Rallee on 09 August 2014, 21:06
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Just give the people at roofbox.co.uk a call and they will tell you if the Whispbars are available for the 3dr, worth a call as they are cheaper, look loads better and make no noise.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 09 August 2014, 22:35
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Just give the people at roofbox.co.uk a call and they will tell you if the Whispbars are available for the 3dr, worth a call as they are cheaper, look loads better and make no noise.
I would have looked at the Whispbars had they been available for the 3dr but have to say  after using the genuine VW bars for a camping trip to Cornwall last week they are quiet enough for me, in fact very little noise at all and genuinely could have forgot they were on the car especially after I fitted the three little spoilers to the front bar. Also they have left no marks whatsoever on the car. If you need a set of roof bars my advise would be get the VW ones and give up on waiting for Whispars to get their arses into gear for the 3dr !!
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 10 August 2014, 10:21
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Just give the people at roofbox.co.uk a call and they will tell you if the Whispbars are available for the 3dr, worth a call as they are cheaper, look loads better and make no noise.

I did they couldn't give an answer even though they appear to be available in the states.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: GolfTi on 15 August 2014, 23:13
Already mentioned I know but after thorough testing (by me) the VW bars are excellent.

Expensive but you won't get better.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: smorg00 on 17 August 2014, 12:15
I bought Whispbar through bars for my Mk7 GTD 5 door as I wanted the extra width for 3 bikes. They are mega easy to take on/off once they are set up, are very low profile, make virtually no noise and have negligible effect on fuel economy. Also in the opinion of my teenage son they look so much better than the VW genuine ones which look really big and tall.

Hi 205 - I'm looking at getting the Whispbars for my GTD 5Dr but wanted to see what the footpack fitting looked like when fitted. Just wondered if you'd be able to upload a pic? Thanks.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: RikWebb on 19 August 2014, 11:15
Just set my GTD up for a trip to France
Thought you guy's might like to see

Thule Wing Bars (Black, new limited product)
Thule Touring 200 Roof Box

Purchased from http://www.thejourneycentre.co.uk/ (http://www.thejourneycentre.co.uk/)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68905459/2014-08-18%2015.05.37.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68905459/2014-08-18%2015.05.47.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68905459/2014-08-18%2015.05.57.jpg)

Rik :)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 19 August 2014, 17:31
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Push your dealer for a better discount. I got mine for £192.

Ordered from the dealer £195
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: JB GTI on 19 August 2014, 18:29
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Push your dealer for a better discount. I got mine for £192.

Ordered from the dealer £195

What's £3 Can't even get a pint for that anymore  :wink:
You won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: dereks on 19 August 2014, 21:40
Being trying to get an answer regarding whispbars for a 3dr to no avail so going to have to bite the bullet and get the vw ones at £225 :cry:

Push your dealer for a better discount. I got mine for £192.

Ordered from the dealer £195

What's £3 Can't even get a pint for that anymore  :wink:
You won't be disappointed.

Forgot I've still got my mk6 bars so get some of it back selling them!
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: 205Rallee on 21 August 2014, 12:02
I bought Whispbar through bars for my Mk7 GTD 5 door as I wanted the extra width for 3 bikes. They are mega easy to take on/off once they are set up, are very low profile, make virtually no noise and have negligible effect on fuel economy. Also in the opinion of my teenage son they look so much better than the VW genuine ones which look really big and tall.

Hi 205 - I'm looking at getting the Whispbars for my GTD 5Dr but wanted to see what the footpack fitting looked like when fitted. Just wondered if you'd be able to upload a pic? Thanks

I've got some photos but I've no idea how to upload onto here :sad: I've clicked on the insert picture button but it just does this    (http://)
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: p3asa on 21 August 2014, 16:30

I've got some photos but I've no idea how to upload onto here :sad: I've clicked on the insert picture button but it just does this    (http://)


You need to upload the picture to a hosting site like photobucket.com then link to that.

Here are the instructions. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=85911.0

Once you've done it once its really easy.

Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: zUgan on 10 September 2014, 12:08
Does anyone know if the Thule Proride 591 fits to the Official VW (Mont Blanc?) roof bars?

I have some aerobars and 2 591s from my previous car but prefer the look of the OEM bars.

To answer my own question, yes they do fit. The official VW t-tracks are the same size as Thule t-tracks. I have also managed to fit 4 bike carriers across the bars without issues. It is tight, but they fit.  :cool:
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Sootchucker on 20 October 2014, 07:57
Hi guys, question please for those with the VW genuine roof bars. Just bagged a set of genuine MK7 (4 door) roof bars from the bay (in mint condition) for only just over the ton mark.

My question is very simple. As the bars might be on for a few weeks at a time (to carry my bike), where the 4 metal brackets clip under the door openings front and rear (with the little dimples), apart from the area where they actually attach under the door recesses, does the metal of the clips touch the paintwork any where else.

Reason I ask is that I'm a little concerned that if the metal of the brackets completely makes contact with the car's paintwork over it's whole length will vibrations etc from normal running of the car (going over bumps etc), cause the metal to rub against the paintwork scratching it or worse, rubbing the paint off - or have VW thought about this.

I don't have mine yet (will arrive tomorrow I hope), so was thinking of covering all 4 brackets with electrical insulation tape to isolate the metal from the paintwork or is this just not needed ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 October 2014, 08:00
I think you're supposed to get rubber/foam protectors.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Sootchucker on 20 October 2014, 08:08
Yeah Chris, I know that the plastic "feet" (both the inner and outer parts that lock together) have rubber feet, but I was more concerned about the actual metal brackets that hold the racks onto the car roof. These have to touch the car's paintwork at some point ?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 October 2014, 08:11
I don't think any metal parts touch Andrew. You'd have hundreds of people complaining on here if roof bars were damaging paint.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Jimble on 18 October 2015, 00:50
Thread resurrection but i found it useful when i was looking for a roof bars and box combo, i went with the whispbars flush fit bars and a Kamei Corvara 390s box so thiught i'd offer a little review of both.

Firstly the bars are fantastic quality and very robust and sturdy once fitted, they're a little fiddly to set up initially but once you've set the width and applied the 3m film and rubber self adhesive pads it's pretty straight forward to put them on the car, once they're on they look pretty smart imo with the low profile it almost makes the car look more purposeful!

The wind noise with just the bars fitted is fairly minimal, i have the pano sunroof fitted and it's not intrusive at all.

The roof box is awesome quality and a little OCD bonus it's made in the same place as the car, Wolfsburg!!, dual opening and very secure once sat on the bars, it's single lock either side and the keys can only be removed once it's properly locked, however it's the connection between the box and bars which makes the difference imo, unlike other boxes it has four adjustable feet which sit in the channel of the bars which then "grab" onto the bars, so no visible attachment and no need to cut the rubber inserts on the whispbars!! Plus it takes about 30 seconds to fit!

There is some noticable wind noise with the box fitted but not to the point of being annoying imo, it's not the cheapest of combinations but is well worth the cost imo.

Some pics:

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/60DBB6B2-62F4-4E6F-B232-A8B2457BCE9C_zpsiltl9jz2.jpg)

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/10F3E642-3553-4170-A121-AA3B2556B354_zpsdzdxffw6.jpg)

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/4F19BC15-3126-48CE-A858-AB8517707A35_zpsdxtv21g9.jpg)

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/87E4DB2D-5469-4F52-A350-E485594A1312_zps27pahyzy.jpg)

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/9EA92F96-02B8-42E8-988B-12337A6517CF_zpsxnjasqwy.jpg)

The feet of the bars have not marked my roof paint or the plastic of the sunroof surround however i've only had them fitted for a month, i would prbably suggest some form of protection film if leaving them on long term.

Hope this was helpful. :afro:


Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Mag_Pie on 18 October 2015, 10:55
They do look neat. One thing I'd like to know about after reading through is whether fitting roof bars causes any damage to the bodywork. I don't mean scratching, I'm talking about possible ripples/dent where the foot sits on the roofline. I only ask as I noticed a friend at work with a Skoda occasionally fits roof bars and they look to fit in a similar way. I noticed when they were taken off there were ripples in the bodywork where the feet had been sat above the doors!

I daren't ask him about it, and for all I know they may not be manufacturer roof bars etc, but I just wondered how much pressure these roof bars applied when fitted?
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Jimble on 18 October 2015, 11:11
I wonder if they'd been incorrectly fitted? There is absolutely no damage to mine at all, they do clamp on very tight but not to the point of bending the metal, obviously you need to pay attention to the max weights of the car, bars and box as overloading could damage things too.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: p3asa on 18 October 2015, 11:59
When I used roof bars for a while (not on a golf) when I took them off I was left with the indentation of the rubber of the door surround not going back to being flat. So it meant when the door was closed the rubber surround still looked like it had the roof bars in it. 3rd picture down shows what I mean.

No amount of heating / massaging / creaming would bring it back to its original shape permanently. Not a big problem but I was paranoid about water / wind ingress.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: Jimble on 18 October 2015, 12:39
When I used roof bars for a while (not on a golf) when I took them off I was left with the indentation of the rubber of the door surround not going back to being flat. So it meant when the door was closed the rubber surround still looked like it had the roof bars in it. 3rd picture down shows what I mean.

No amount of heating / massaging / creaming would bring it back to its original shape permanently. Not a big problem but I was paranoid about water / wind ingress.

I was a bit worried about that tbh because you could see the indentation in the rubbers when the doors were open, luckily the doors of the Golf sit enough in the frame to flatten the seals out so no gaps.
Title: Re: Cycle Rack - VW Roof Bars or Thule aftermarket?
Post by: fredgroves on 18 October 2015, 20:59
I have Thule bars on mine, they come with some rubber tubing to be into the door seal trim to stop it prolapsing.