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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: tenrohle on 25 August 2013, 23:35

Title: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: tenrohle on 25 August 2013, 23:35
Mine might need replacing. I've had an ongoing rattle/noise of sorts for a while and this is now seeming like the only thing the last garage can suggest that may be causing it. Mines a 2010 DSG 4 door with 40k on the clock. I don't know much about the process involved but it seems lengthy. Does anyone know a rough idea what this should cost to do?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: Poached on 26 August 2013, 08:55
When my DMF was replaced the cost of a new DMF was approx £900 + vat at VW. This was in June this year.

I had 40% goodwill on the flywheel but I think you could double check with PSI tuning to see if the MK5 GTI flywheel is the same as the MK6 as it's advertised at £536.

http://www.psituning.com/product.php?xProd=21415
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: Raffe on 26 August 2013, 09:27
Dd they replace the clutch at the same time?
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: Poached on 26 August 2013, 09:37
Dd they replace the clutch at the same time?

The whole gearbox was replaced.
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: tenrohle on 26 August 2013, 20:23
What reason did you need to replace yours Poached? And how many miles was it at. Mines out of warranty now  :cry:
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: Poached on 26 August 2013, 20:45
What reason did you need to replace yours Poached? And how many miles was it at. Mines out of warranty now  :cry:

Failed at 53k.

Was driving along one day when the Mechatronics badly malfunctioned, there was minimal power output through the gearbox and revs were rising very slowly and then I started to hear grinding noises. I switched the engine off and restarted a couple of times but it didn't make a difference so was towed by the AA. In the end both the Gearbox and Flywheel were replaced.

I knew as soon as it happened it wasn't going to be good. Here are some sobering costs:

DSG box - £4200
Mechatronics £1800
DMF - £900

I was given a goodwill contribution which brought the bill down to about £2300.

I've had a similar malfunction in my previous DSG car but the erratic behavior disappeared after a restart and thought nothing more of it but it was a sign of potential mechatronic issues.

I would think this type of failure is rare.

Get the Flywheel inspected first before you splash out.
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: tenrohle on 27 August 2013, 01:16
jeez. what a stress!! going to take mine into vw. 2 indies have come away undecided about it now.
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: Poached on 27 August 2013, 10:20
Do you have a full main dealer service history?
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: tenrohle on 27 August 2013, 14:06
Up until I bought it at 35k miles, yep. It's at 40 now and I had its 40k service done at a indi service centre : rac-london.co.uk/‎
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: Poached on 27 August 2013, 17:24
Full VW service history does count when it comes to these situations...You stand more chance of getting a goodwill gesture.

Other factors are mileage/age of car.

Any mods?

Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: tenrohle on 27 August 2013, 19:34
Nothing at all. I've been waiting to sort out whatever the hell this rattle is before getting anything done to it.
I will book it in at my local main dealer and see what they come back with. Thanks for replying. Your ordeal sounded terrible!
Title: Re: Dual Mass Fly Wheel
Post by: Poached on 27 August 2013, 21:08
No problem.

Go where ever you are comfortable having your car looked at.

I requested my car was sent to VW when it broke down on the basis that I would have a good chance of receiving some good will on the failure.

I could have sent it to an Indy but what if they said the same as VW? I could have been £5k out of pocket! Plus I now have 2 years parts and labour warranty as well.

Both DSG equipped cars I've owned either failed or showed possible signs of problems at some point so I'm not sure about longevity on higher mileage cars 100k+ on original equipment.

Given the cost of replacement of DSG components some MK5 GTI's are approaching the value of a DSG gearbox on the used market so maybe we will see more gearbox refurbishment or written off cars if the gearbox needs replacing?