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General => General discussion => Topic started by: popleyruss on 23 August 2013, 23:26
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Right then i need a 2 post ramp but have no access to 3 phase so its gotta be 240v
Also whats the main height of the roof ?? Litrally advice would be quality cheers
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240v ramps are ok. Not as fast as three phase but they do.
Think the floor needs to be something like 20cm deep concrete reinforced.(dont know whether garages come with floors like that?)
Not sure what you mean by main height of roof. But you'll need about 3.5-4m space above car.
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You need to dig out the floor about 6" or more in an H-shape where you want the ramp and lay steel-reinforced concrete, or there's a good chance your ramp could fall over!
Make sure you lay the floor level, too!
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Thats the size u kinda get the size comparison of it its an old cattle shed that have all been converted im guessing its decent concrete under whats been poured on the smooth bit thats there now need an expert i rhink lol
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had the same problems a while ago.
singel phase ramps can be just as fast as 3 phase, at the end of the day the speed at whitch the ramp lifts is a product of gearing / mecanical or hydralic advantage and power avalible to the system. you won't find meany car ramps with more than a 3HP 2.2 kw motor be they 3ph or 1 ph but a 2 ton lift will be faster than a 4 ton not that that really matters much anyway.
as for what your bolting it down to
a cattel shed will more than likely have a 150mm ( 6" ) slab , you'll need to drill it to confirm this it may be mesh reinforced but there again it might not be, a metal detector will answer this.
i would have no issues working under a ramp on a 150mm mesh reinforced slab.
if your floor is below this spec like mine ( floor in mine is 125mm not reinforced and sh!t concrete and there is a join in it )
1) DIG out a cubic meter hole below eaxh post and fill with ready mix , sounds good solution but it sucks the two blocks arnt joind so may well allow movement.
2) dig out a cubic meter below each post then a trench ( width of holes ) 1 meter wide and 300mm deep joining the two holes together, reinforce with mesh and fill with ready mix, problem with this is landlords don't like you cutting holes in there floor
3) buy ramp with steel H frame bolt it down and bolt the ramp to it. jobs a goodun
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my ramp is only a cheepy but not had any problems with it so far touch wood
launch 4 ton H frame, 1900 mm lift, singel phase 2.2 KW
please excuse the sh!thole state of the workshop
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decided a new cheep lift was the better option as most 2 posters for sale round here were 3 phase and needed money spending on them and were overpriced to start with, i hate ramps that use lift nuts or rely on cabels for lifting, much prefer them to use cabels for balanceing and lift with hydralics
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Cheers for all that info danny the whole farms pretty much concrete they have just poird a smooth floor so fingers crossed i need to find someone local i fuess to come have alook at the floor for me and drill it then go from there i guess
How much did u pay for ur single phaze ??
Ive them for as little as 1100
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I would NOT trust farm concrete to put a lift on!
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I would NOT trust farm concrete to put a lift on!
good point lol
Other units have ramps instald but none on my section
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doesn't look like there's much height there to me.
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that is more or less the ramp i bought ( but without the H frame ) the ramps desinged for the h frames are diffrent as the H frame is about 50 mm thick so the baseplates are going to be ether 50 mm further up the posts or the arms kinked by 50mm more, ether way i think it was 200 quid for the H frame " upgrade " for what the H frame looks like i felt a bit done as it would be easy to copy / desing and do for a lot less money but there must be a differance in the ramp to loose the extra 50 mm. and delivery is enough as well i think that was about a ton
so all up i think mine was £1800, yoou can get the cheeper with mecanical safty locks but you really really dont want those you have to walk round to the other side every time you want to disengadge them, in practice you'll get that pissed off witht them you won't engadge them after about a a week so there is no point them being there. with the leccy ones at least you just press a button
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WORLD-FAMOUS-LAUNCH-SUPERB-CAR-VAN-LIFT-RAMP-4T-2-POST-ELECTRONIC-1179-VAT-/121163366578?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item1c35e640b2
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looking at the golf i recon you have enough hight above it to go full hight.
i count 10 concret blocks thats 90" or 2.25 meters minumum IIRC and lift is going to go about 1.9 meters so should go you'll need to measure tho.
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looking at the golf i recon you have enough hight above it to go full hight.
i count 10 concret blocks thats 90" or 2.25 meters minumum IIRC and lift is going to go about 1.9 meters so should go you'll need to measure tho.
have you taken into account the height of the car?
taken from the centre of the room i count 14 blocks = 3150mm
Very approx height of car = 1.5m (i googled but couldn't find it)
height below car to work = 3150 - 1500 = 1650
I guess it just about fits but if you're more than 5.5ft tall, you're gonna be hunched up working under the car.
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Cheers lads apreciate all tye maths is there companys that will come and measure uo fir me out there ?? Im 6ft1 hahhaahha
But yeah if i have to crouch down a little or wheek myself around on a stall no drama
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if you do need to re do the concrete base perhaps you could dig yourself a trench to compensate for the lack of height
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i was counting blocks above the roof of the golf parked in there.
it'll be tight, where you position it ill matter but i recon it will go.
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If you are breaking out concrete why not make a pit instead! Far cheaper!
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pits are f**king hatefull things, dought it'd be any cheeper by the end of it