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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Golf mk7 GTD/TDI => Topic started by: delihuso on 15 August 2013, 23:26
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Hi guys,
I am thinking about getting a GTD however there is something that just irks me. I hate how the GTD has such an ugly exhaust in comparison to the GTI. Is it possible to get the same exhaust look as the GTI? You know, each one being on one side of the car?
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I'm sure you can, at considerable cost for a custom exhaust and buying the GTI rear diffuser, officially it's a no.
Not sure why this was such a big deal for VW to do seeing as you can get 2.0TDI Audi A4s with the split exhaust like a GTI has.
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
Well that's a bit stupid considering GTD owners pay just about as much for their cars. Oh well, I will just have to get a custom job done. Thank you both
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
Well that's a bit stupid considering GTD owners pay just about as much for their cars. Oh well, I will just have to get a custom job done. Thank you both
How exactly is it stupid? Sorry, the GTI is the hot hatch out of the two hence it has a slight more aggressive stance, ie split exhaust
The two cars may be roughly the same book value but over the ownership it will cost us GTI owners far more than the GTD guys
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For a moment there you'd think some GTD buyers actually want a GTI :wink: The exhaust is different in the same way the red accents are different and the way the car handles and sounds is different.
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Coming from a car that has two split exhausts, I'm looking forward to the GTD double barrelled exhaust! It's like a sawn off shotgun that will blow the car behind into the weeds (hopefully without the cloud of black smoke :grin:)
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Haha! Coming from a Mk5 GTI with a double-barrel exhaust, I'm looking forward to some pipe separation! :whistle:
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
Well that's a bit stupid considering GTD owners pay just about as much for their cars. Oh well, I will just have to get a custom job done. Thank you both
How exactly is it stupid? Sorry, the GTI is the hot hatch out of the two hence it has a slight more aggressive stance, ie split exhaust
The two cars may be roughly the same book value but over the ownership it will cost us GTI owners far more than the GTD guys
fair enough mate
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I think the point is VW went to great lengths to make the GTI and GTD look the same except for the red stripe and red logo. I assume the true answer would be a technical one.
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I doubt that the reason is technical.
I am not aware of a technical reason why you would want a twin exhaust on an in-line 4... either petrol or diesel...
There is no technical reason why the GTI has to have a pair of split pipes... equally, I don't believe there is a technical reason why the GTD couldn't have this arrangement.
I'm not sure I care either way, to be honest, its not like one arrangement will generate more power than the other...
Its all for looks... and they're subjective...
VW has taken the view that it wanted to provide some differentiation between GTI and GTD from the rear (aside from the badges, if they're there)....
My "other" car has twin exhausts because it needs them... :smiley:
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I doubt that the reason is technical.
I am not aware of a technical reason why you would want a twin exhaust on an in-line 4... either petrol or diesel...
There is no technical reason why the GTI has to have a pair of split pipes... equally, I don't believe there is a technical reason why the GTD couldn't have this arrangement.
I'm not sure I care either way, to be honest, its not like one arrangement will generate more power than the other...
Its all for looks... and they're subjective...
VW has taken the view that it wanted to provide some differentiation between GTI and GTD from the rear (aside from the badges, if they're there)....
My "other" car has twin exhausts because it needs them... :smiley:
I suppose we won't know either way unless you know for sure? When I say technical reasons, I really mean cost reasons. But who knows. B-)
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If it's what you really want, they why not but a GTI back box and rear diffuser from the dealers. Not saying it would be particularly cheap, but it's OEM and it's what the MK5 boys did to their GT TDi's before the 170 Diesel came along with the twin pipes already on ?
All you would need is a small reducer between the main pipes and the GTI back box (think from memory the GTD's main pipe is 2mm smaller than the GTI's), but any competent exhaust centre could supply and fit that for you - no need to go after market.
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If it's what you really want, they why not but a GTI back box and rear diffuser from the dealers. Not saying it would be particularly cheap, but it's OEM and it's what the MK5 boys did to their GT TDi's before the 170 Diesel came along with the twin pipes already on ?
All you would need is a small reducer between the main pipes and the GTI back box (think from memory the GTD's main pipe is 2mm smaller than the GTI's), but any competent exhaust centre could supply and fit that for you - no need to go after market.
I suppose so, but I personally don't mind. I used to be into modding cars, but now I could not be bothered. I think VW have made a beautiful look machine in both the GTI and GTD. It would be a shame to start cutting and adding things.
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
Well that's a bit stupid considering GTD owners pay just about as much for their cars. Oh well, I will just have to get a custom job done. Thank you both
How exactly is it stupid? Sorry, the GTI is the hot hatch out of the two hence it has a slight more aggressive stance, ie split exhaust
The two cars may be roughly the same book value but over the ownership it will cost us GTI owners far more than the GTD guys
Craig, that sort of statement makes you appear to want your wheelbarrow handle exhausts to be some sort of display of how much money you are spending.
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
Well that's a bit stupid considering GTD owners pay just about as much for their cars. Oh well, I will just have to get a custom job done. Thank you both
How exactly is it stupid? Sorry, the GTI is the hot hatch out of the two hence it has a slight more aggressive stance, ie split exhaust
The two cars may be roughly the same book value but over the ownership it will cost us GTI owners far more than the GTD guys
Craig, that sort of statement makes you appear to want your wheelbarrow handle exhausts to be some sort of display of how much money you are spending.
I was merely responding to the point that was raised about the value of the cars. At the end of the day the GTI is the flagship model in the golf range (forget about the R because thats a recent addition) and deserves to stand out from the crowd. The only way it really achieves this compared to the GTD is with the split exhaust. The split exhaust imo signifies that its a car tended for performance and gives it an aggresive stance over the GTD and rightly so!
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
Well that's a bit stupid considering GTD owners pay just about as much for their cars. Oh well, I will just have to get a custom job done. Thank you both
How exactly is it stupid? Sorry, the GTI is the hot hatch out of the two hence it has a slight more aggressive stance, ie split exhaust
The two cars may be roughly the same book value but over the ownership it will cost us GTI owners far more than the GTD guys
Craig, that sort of statement makes you appear to want your wheelbarrow handle exhausts to be some sort of display of how much money you are spending.
I was merely responding to the point that was raised about the value of the cars. At the end of the day the GTI is the flagship model in the golf range (forget about the R because thats a recent addition) and deserves to stand out from the crowd. The only way it really achieves this compared to the GTD is with the split exhaust. The split exhaust imo signifies that its a car tended for performance and gives it an aggresive stance over the GTD and rightly so!
sorry but I think your totally wrong. absolutely no difference in the gti to gtd in aggressive looks department. they look identical in every way (gtd has better looking alloys but that's only my opinion). front and side they are identical and to be honest I like the twin exhausts better than the split ones. thing is though buying cars is totally subjective to each individual so nothing is right or wrong :tongue:
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You need some feature to dustinguish the GTI from the GTD and its really only the split exhaust that does this
Well that's a bit stupid considering GTD owners pay just about as much for their cars. Oh well, I will just have to get a custom job done. Thank you both
How exactly is it stupid? Sorry, the GTI is the hot hatch out of the two hence it has a slight more aggressive stance, ie split exhaust
The two cars may be roughly the same book value but over the ownership it will cost us GTI owners far more than the GTD guys
Craig, that sort of statement makes you appear to want your wheelbarrow handle exhausts to be some sort of display of how much money you are spending.
I was merely responding to the point that was raised about the value of the cars. At the end of the day the GTI is the flagship model in the golf range (forget about the R because thats a recent addition) and deserves to stand out from the crowd. The only way it really achieves this compared to the GTD is with the split exhaust. The split exhaust imo signifies that its a car tended for performance and gives it an aggresive stance over the GTD and rightly so!
sorry but I think your totally wrong. absolutely no difference in the gti to gtd in aggressive looks department. they look identical in every way (gtd has better looking alloys but that's only my opinion). front and side they are identical and to be honest I like the twin exhausts better than the split ones. thing is though buying cars is totally subjective to each individual so nothing is right or wrong :tongue:
Well your entitled to your opinion mate. The point is they should be different, one is a hot hatch and the other quite simply isn't. Again, difference of opinion but I much prefer the split exhaust, gives a nice balanced look at the back. It also looks more aggressive
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Why can't people delete the unnecessary posts out of the "quote" to save us having to see it over and over again?
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Why can't people delete the unnecessary posts out of the "quote" to save us having to see it over and over again?
It's not so easy on a mobile phone
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Why can't people delete the unnecessary posts out of the "quote" to save us having to see it over and over again?
I agree!! LOL
See what I did there?
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I suppose we won't know either way unless you know for sure? When I say technical reasons, I really mean cost reasons. But who knows. B-)
I'm 99.9% sure it is not a technical reason... is that enough for you?
Cost is not a technical reason. From experience there is not much difference in cost between the two exhaust designs, certainly not to the extent where that cost could not be passed on the the consumer and it not affect sales...
With a high level of certainty, I think it is obvious that this is a style decision, more than likely, to provide some visual differentiation between GTI and GTD...
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I always thought the Audi split exhaust was for the Quattro only?
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I always thought the Audi split exhaust was for the Quattro only?
Not necessarily. The revised 2.0l TT was changed from a twin to a split exhaust regardless of whether it was Quattro or not. The 1.8 remained as a twin
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I have a MK7 GTI now and I actually think I'd prefer if the exhausts weren't split, like they were in the MKV GTI... and in my MK6 GTD. It's a purely aesthetic thing IMO but I think the exhausts paired together looks better.
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I've got to agree with Joe, I've owned two mk6 GTIs and a mk7 on infinite order and I've never really liked the wheelbarrow handle exhausts.
The GTD one looks more subtle. Slashed tailpipes like on the mk5 would look even better.
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This reads like it could be an option for people in the UK with the active exhaust with the speaker system installed: -
http://www.remus.eu/news/remus-produktinformation-34-2013/
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Pretty easy to make the GTD exhaust the same as the GTi I would reckon...
Need one of these - http://ebay.eu/1hTda7T
and a custom set-up for the pipes and tips (My local custom exhaust guy does it for less than £300)
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As the diffusers are completely different sizes and shapes between the GTD and GTI (as per your pic), does that also mean that the actual bumper itself is different as well ?
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No, I believe the bumper is exactly the same - only difference is the shape of the diffuser so I would imagine that swapping them over would be really easy!
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Why nor just use the 'reply' button, like this! There is no need to use quotes every time unless you are making a point thats so far back in the thread it needs digging up!
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Sorry bud, I'm on a few other forums where this is the norm! Duly noted.
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Don't know if it has been pointed out yet but Milltek do a GTI-style exhaust for the GTD. You obviously need the GTI lower valance too so it's going to be expensive.
http://m.millteksport.com/exhaust.products.cfm?variantid=1442
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Sorry bud, I'm on a few other forums where this is the norm! Duly noted.
It wasn't you mate. I believe its posts from way back in September thats been annoying!!
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Found these diffusers which could be viable options for anyone looking to change the GTD exhaust exits or tailpipes...
http://www.body-kit.co.uk/product.php/14355/3296/vw-golf-7-13-rear-apron-with-diffuser-pur
http://www.body-kit.co.uk/product.php/14085/3296/vw-golf-7-12-rear-apron-insert-abs