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Title: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: AAddict on 12 August 2013, 18:30
Epic fail, 61 low mileage GTI & GTD demos for sale on vw.co.uk

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Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 August 2013, 18:42
Less than 61 pissed off customers on this forum right?

Genius.
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: monkeyhanger on 12 August 2013, 19:49
Epic fail, 61 low mileage GTI & GTD demos for sale on vw.co.uk

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61 M135i's ordered?
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: TDI-line on 12 August 2013, 21:15
Epic fail, 61 low mileage GTI & GTD demos for sale on vw.co.uk

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61 M135i's ordered?

Classic.  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: carl1 on 12 August 2013, 21:27
Didn't you know that this always happens, some dealers will even sell you a unregistered one.
P.s their is a lot more for sale from Vw as not all of them are on the website.
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: AAddict on 12 August 2013, 21:52
61 M135i's ordered?

60xM135i & 1xSkoda Roomster :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 August 2013, 22:07
Wait who got a skoda? I'm confused
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: Gryzor on 13 August 2013, 10:40
So it's simple isn't it? If all you are is desperate to be driving a "new" car ASAP, at whatever sacrifice that might be, just cancel the GTI/GTD order and get an ex-demo or something else entirely like an M135i.  I suspect that the majority of people will stick with their orders so they get the car and spec that they wanted in the first place.
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 August 2013, 10:49
I suspect that the majority of people will stick with their orders so they get the car and spec that they wanted in the first place.

Especially as these demos typically have £3k of extras on and the dealers seem determined to get full RRP for them. For most of the early orderers, there is now light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: Gryzor on 13 August 2013, 11:00
Especially as these demos typically have £3k of extras on and the dealers seem determined to get full RRP for them. For most of the early orderers, there is now light at the end of the tunnel.

Exactly, and here's the rub. Even if you wait a year and buy a used example from a dealer, it's still not going to save you a huge amount of money because of what it is.  If you can afford it, you really can't beat the pleasure of owning a brand new car built to the specification you wanted.
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 August 2013, 11:06
Even if you wait a year and buy a used example from a dealer, it's still not going to save you a huge amount of money because of what it is.  If you can afford it, you really can't beat the pleasure of owning a brand new car built to the specification you wanted.

VW nearly new prices are exactly the reason I buy a VW new - why buy a year old one for 10% less than list when you can get a brand new, unmolested one, to your specification for a similar price if you are prepared to haggle (less haggling opportunities on the used lot I have found).
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: dubber36 on 13 August 2013, 12:39
VW nearly new prices are exactly the reason I buy a VW new - why buy a year old one for 10% less than list when you can get a brand new, unmolested one, to your specification for a similar price if you are prepared to haggle (less haggling opportunities on the used lot I have found).

It depends on the car to be fair. I bought a year old Passat Estate Sport earlier this year from a VW dealer. It's retail price was £27,000, I paid less than £17,000.
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 August 2013, 13:07
VW nearly new prices are exactly the reason I buy a VW new - why buy a year old one for 10% less than list when you can get a brand new, unmolested one, to your specification for a similar price if you are prepared to haggle (less haggling opportunities on the used lot I have found).

It depends on the car to be fair. I bought a year old Passat Estate Sport earlier this year from a VW dealer. It's retail price was £27,000, I paid less than £17,000.

Yes it does depend on the car, VWs are a mixed bag when it comes to residuals. Lots of people would pick a Golf over and Astra/Focus/Megane etc, not so many would pick a Polo over it's direct peers. Passat is the one VW that's heavy on the fleet action, which always harms residuals (CC excepted). Most surprising to me is the new Beetle - miles away better than the old one in looks - it looks like it could be an early Porsche incarnation, but the residuals on those are shocking - is it that are they built in Brazil or poor in the equipment stakes?

I would always buy new vs 1 year old for any Golf (inc Cabriolet), EOS, Polo GTI, Passat CC or Scirocco. For the others, maybe not.
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: CraigW on 13 August 2013, 13:28
VW nearly new prices are exactly the reason I buy a VW new - why buy a year old one for 10% less than list when you can get a brand new, unmolested one, to your specification for a similar price if you are prepared to haggle (less haggling opportunities on the used lot I have found).

It depends on the car to be fair. I bought a year old Passat Estate Sport earlier this year from a VW dealer. It's retail price was £27,000, I paid less than £17,000.

Yes it does depend on the car, VWs are a mixed bag when it comes to residuals. Lots of people would pick a Golf over and Astra/Focus/Megane etc, not so many would pick a Polo over it's direct peers. Passat is the one VW that's heavy on the fleet action, which always harms residuals (CC excepted). Most surprising to me is the new Beetle - miles away better than the old one in looks - it looks like it could be an early Porsche incarnation, but the residuals on those are shocking - is it that are they built in Brazil or poor in the equipment stakes?

I would always buy new vs 1 year old for any Golf (inc Cabriolet), EOS, Polo GTI, Passat CC or Scirocco. For the others, maybe not.

The Beetle is a terrible looking car. VW made an arse of it when they put a flower holder in the first mark and basically alienated the male population (well most of the male population  :wink:). You look what BMW have done with the mini brand and theres no comparison. I wouldnt be seen dead in a new beetle
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: AAddict on 13 August 2013, 15:01
VW nearly new prices are exactly the reason I buy a VW new - why buy a year old one for 10% less than list when you can get a brand new, unmolested one, to your specification for a similar price if you are prepared to haggle (less haggling opportunities on the used lot I have found).

It depends on the car to be fair. I bought a year old Passat Estate Sport earlier this year from a VW dealer. It's retail price was £27,000, I paid less than £17,000.

Yes it does depend on the car, VWs are a mixed bag when it comes to residuals. Lots of people would pick a Golf over and Astra/Focus/Megane etc, not so many would pick a Polo over it's direct peers. Passat is the one VW that's heavy on the fleet action, which always harms residuals (CC excepted). Most surprising to me is the new Beetle - miles away better than the old one in looks - it looks like it could be an early Porsche incarnation, but the residuals on those are shocking - is it that are they built in Brazil or poor in the equipment stakes?

I would always buy new vs 1 year old for any Golf (inc Cabriolet), EOS, Polo GTI, Passat CC or Scirocco. For the others, maybe not.

The Beetle is a terrible looking car. VW made an arse of it when they put a flower holder in the first mark and basically alienated the male population (well most of the male population  :wink:). You look what BMW have done with the mini brand and theres no comparison. I wouldnt be seen dead in a new beetle

See you say that, and you previous car was a TT :kiss:
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: CraigW on 13 August 2013, 15:19
VW nearly new prices are exactly the reason I buy a VW new - why buy a year old one for 10% less than list when you can get a brand new, unmolested one, to your specification for a similar price if you are prepared to haggle (less haggling opportunities on the used lot I have found).

It depends on the car to be fair. I bought a year old Passat Estate Sport earlier this year from a VW dealer. It's retail price was £27,000, I paid less than £17,000.

Yes it does depend on the car, VWs are a mixed bag when it comes to residuals. Lots of people would pick a Golf over and Astra/Focus/Megane etc, not so many would pick a Polo over it's direct peers. Passat is the one VW that's heavy on the fleet action, which always harms residuals (CC excepted). Most surprising to me is the new Beetle - miles away better than the old one in looks - it looks like it could be an early Porsche incarnation, but the residuals on those are shocking - is it that are they built in Brazil or poor in the equipment stakes?

I would always buy new vs 1 year old for any Golf (inc Cabriolet), EOS, Polo GTI, Passat CC or Scirocco. For the others, maybe not.

The Beetle is a terrible looking car. VW made an arse of it when they put a flower holder in the first mark and basically alienated the male population (well most of the male population  :wink:). You look what BMW have done with the mini brand and theres no comparison. I wouldnt be seen dead in a new beetle

See you say that, and you previous car was a TT :kiss:

Don't follow you there. Are you implying that Audi cocked up the mk2 TT? To me it's still one of the best looking cars on the road. I think few would argue


Edit: if you mean the hairdresser connotations then that was bollocks. I don't know too many hairdressers who could afford a TT
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: AAddict on 13 August 2013, 15:20
VW nearly new prices are exactly the reason I buy a VW new - why buy a year old one for 10% less than list when you can get a brand new, unmolested one, to your specification for a similar price if you are prepared to haggle (less haggling opportunities on the used lot I have found).

It depends on the car to be fair. I bought a year old Passat Estate Sport earlier this year from a VW dealer. It's retail price was £27,000, I paid less than £17,000.

Yes it does depend on the car, VWs are a mixed bag when it comes to residuals. Lots of people would pick a Golf over and Astra/Focus/Megane etc, not so many would pick a Polo over it's direct peers. Passat is the one VW that's heavy on the fleet action, which always harms residuals (CC excepted). Most surprising to me is the new Beetle - miles away better than the old one in looks - it looks like it could be an early Porsche incarnation, but the residuals on those are shocking - is it that are they built in Brazil or poor in the equipment stakes?

I would always buy new vs 1 year old for any Golf (inc Cabriolet), EOS, Polo GTI, Passat CC or Scirocco. For the others, maybe not.

The Beetle is a terrible looking car. VW made an arse of it when they put a flower holder in the first mark and basically alienated the male population (well most of the male population  :wink:). You look what BMW have done with the mini brand and theres no comparison. I wouldnt be seen dead in a new beetle

See you say that, and you previous car was a TT :kiss:

Don't follow you there. Are you implying that Audi cocked up the mk2 TT? To me it's still one of the best looking cars on the road. I think few would argue

It was me trying to be funny, you said the Beetle was a girls car  :wink:
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: Gryzor on 13 August 2013, 15:23
Don't follow you there. Are you implying that Audi cocked up the mk2 TT? To me it's still one of the best looking cars on the road. I think few would argue

I must admit, when the Mk2 TT launched I didn't like it as much as the original and thought it felt a bit feminine.  I don't think it's on a scale like the Beetle, but I know a few women who have the Mk2 TT as a company car, and of the 3 TTs that I see driving around near me regularly, they are all driven by women.  Not saying it's wholly reflective of the buying populous, but I don't see as many women driving GTIs!

Edit: Just to add, I now think it's a better looking car than the original, but still reserve judgment on the gender-bias! :grin:
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: CraigW on 13 August 2013, 15:30
Don't follow you there. Are you implying that Audi cocked up the mk2 TT? To me it's still one of the best looking cars on the road. I think few would argue

I must admit, when the Mk2 TT launched I didn't like it as much as the original and thought it felt a bit feminine.  I don't think it's on a scale like the Beetle, but I know a few women who have the Mk2 TT as a company car, and of the 3 TTs that I see driving around near me regularly, they are all driven by women.  Not saying it's wholly reflective of the buying populous, but I don't see as many women driving GTIs!

Edit: Just to add, I now think it's a better looking car than the original, but still reserve judgment on the gender-bias! :grin:

Ill say one thing though, the TTRS is a supercar killer. It's possibly the best value for money high performance car on the market. Some of the boys on the TT forum are running 450bhp plus. Not too many girls driving those
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: matchboy on 13 August 2013, 15:33
Don't follow you there. Are you implying that Audi cocked up the mk2 TT? To me it's still one of the best looking cars on the road. I think few would argue

I must admit, when the Mk2 TT launched I didn't like it as much as the original and thought it felt a bit feminine.  I don't think it's on a scale like the Beetle, but I know a few women who have the Mk2 TT as a company car, and of the 3 TTs that I see driving around near me regularly, they are all driven by women.  Not saying it's wholly reflective of the buying populous, but I don't see as many women driving GTIs!

Edit: Just to add, I now think it's a better looking car than the original, but still reserve judgment on the gender-bias! :grin:

Ill say one thing though, the TTRS is a supercar killer. It's possibly the best value for money high performance car on the market. Some of the boys on the TT forum are running 450bhp plus

This +1

The TTRS is an absolute monster and there are very few cars that can beat it speed wise. If I had the money I would definitely have one, inside & out its awesome!
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: Gryzor on 13 August 2013, 15:33
Ill say one thing though, the TTRS is a supercar killer. It's possibly the best value for money high performance car on the market. Some of the boys on the TT forum are running 450bhp plus

Yeah I was going to say, some of the higher-powered models like the TTRS are absolute beasts, and would get serious consideration if I wanted supercar performance without the supercar price!  It also looks as it should do too!
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 August 2013, 15:33
Definitely prefer MK2 TT to MK1. Less girly in the looks department, but still favoured by lasses over lads.

I think most small coupes are - Merc SLK, BMW Z4 etc. Scirocco seems more of a lads choice (i'm not at all biased  :whistle:), maybe lasses generally have expensive tastes - they're not called "dearest" for nowt!
Title: Re: Just 61 Mk7 GTI & GTD Ex-Demos for Sale on Volkswagen.co.uk
Post by: Misterp on 14 August 2013, 08:51
I know it's probably been said but this cars that vw have for sale alot of them cost more than what I negotiated for my brand new GTD also alot of the cars are unavailable till mid-end of sept anyway so there is no point cancelling your order to pick up one of the 50 'used' gti/gtd listed on vw site