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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: steve17 on 11 August 2013, 11:44
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Just about set on ordering a new GTi and have decided on the following.
5 door
Carbon Grey
Winter Pack
Keyless
Now the last thing to decide is do I go for Performance Pack & Standard Nav or just Nav Pro. There is only £10 difference. The car will be my wife's but I will use it a little at weekends. Will keep the car for 4 years by the way.
Opinions welcome....
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Just about set on ordering a new GTi and have decided on the following.
5 door
Carbon Grey
Winter Pack
Keyless
Now the last thing to decide is do I go for Performance Pack & Standard Nav or just Nav Pro. There is only £10 difference. The car will be my wife's but I will use it a little at weekends. Will keep the car for 4 years by the way.
Opinions welcome....
Personally I would take the PP+Nav over the Nav Pro (Large Screen head units are just massive amounts of margin for VW). But it's a personal thing, not sure asking what others would buy is gonna help you choose.
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Why miss out on the PP for basically a bigger screen? Especially if you're going to drive it. No brainer! :laugh:
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Just about set on ordering a new GTi and have decided on the following.
5 door
Carbon Grey
Winter Pack
Keyless
Now the last thing to decide is do I go for Performance Pack & Standard Nav or just Nav Pro. There is only £10 difference. The car will be my wife's but I will use it a little at weekends. Will keep the car for 4 years by the way.
Go for PP and standard nav you get 3 yrs free updates on sat nav so it's a win win situation more power and latest maps :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Opinions welcome....
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If it's a case of you have a budget and want to get best value out of it, then common sense for me would say go for PP and standard nav. Having said that, if it were me, I'd probably go nav pro because the PP doesn't interest me at all for the way I drive. I would, however, appreciate the larger screen, 3D maps, and additional functions of the nav pro.
As already said, not sure asking anybody will help. You need to decide what's important for you (or your wife) and go from there. Will she really want/need the PP, or is that you wanting it? Being sensible, why not just take standard nav and save some cash?
Getting a bit dull hearing the PP is a no brainer when it can only muster 1 second per mile around the Nurburgring! :grin:
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Thanks for quick replies....
When I started deciding on the spec like many I just ticked PP going down the no brainer route. Then the more I think about it 99.9% of the time I will never notice the difference. Not sure if the wife will.... However every time I sit in the car it may feel a bit more special with the Pro Nav.
Like you say a personal choice but just curious on other views..
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Standard nav and PP would be the route I would go down. The standard nav is more than adequate and the PP means you will have the real GTI (waiting for responses :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:)
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@Steve17
Seriously - ask your wife.
Does she need more power than the standard set up (with the PP)?
Does she get lost a lot? (Maybe the cheaper sat nav would suffice)
Tut-tut CraigW you little s*it stirrer :)
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I keep reading people saying the PP adds nothing and that they'll never notice it 99% of the time. No one has actually driven a PP car yet! :rolleyes:
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@Steve17
Seriously - ask your wife.
Does she need more power than the standard set up (with the PP)?
Does she get lost a lot? (Maybe the cheaper sat nav would suffice)
Tut-tut CraigW you little s*it stirrer :)
Moi?? :grin: :grin:
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I keep reading people saying the PP adds nothing and that they'll never notice it 99% of the time. No one has actually driven a PP car yet! ::)
Craig has! Perhaps we should have a mini meet at his?? :-X >:D
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I keep reading people saying the PP adds nothing and that they'll never notice it 99% of the time. No one has actually driven a PP car yet! ::)
Craig has! Perhaps we should have a mini meet at his?? :-X >:D
Good point! I think we should all go up there for a drive!! :laugh:
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I keep reading people saying the PP adds nothing and that they'll never notice it 99% of the time. No one has actually driven a PP car yet! ::)
Craig has! Perhaps we should have a mini meet at his?? :-X >:D
Good point! I think we should all go up there for a drive!! :laugh:
MMmmm let me think about that one :grin: I'm trying to keep my mileage down so I can flog it to one of you guys for double the price if there's any more delays :grin: :grin:
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Nav is a must for me. I'd drop the PP.
Since I ordered I now think its too expensive. I'm thinking if dropping PP, DCC, leather, sunroof and saving £3.5k. My advice would be cut your options back as much as possible. You don't need PP.
Recent events have seriously changed my views. :undecided:
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I keep reading people saying the PP adds nothing and that they'll never notice it 99% of the time. No one has actually driven a PP car yet! ::)
Craig has! Perhaps we should have a mini meet at his?? :-X >:D
Good point! I think we should all go up there for a drive!! :laugh:
MMmmm let me think about that one :grin: I'm trying to keep my mileage down so I can flog it to one of you guys for double the price if there's any more delays :grin: :grin:
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Haha.
Who has Craig's address? Wait till I get back to blighty yeah?
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Nav is a must for me. I'd drop the PP.
Since I ordered I now think its too expensive. I'm thinking if dropping PP, DCC, leather, sunroof and saving £3.5k. My advice would be cut your options back as much as possible. You don't need PP.
Recent events have seriously changed my views. :undecided:
As said before, the options are pretty much dead money at resale time - your £3500 spent will probably retain about £1000 at most. Is £2500 you'll never see again well spent on those options? All down to personal choice, none of the above are must-haves. What else would you rather be spending that £2500 on, if anything?
PP - you get the visual improvements (brakes) and marginal performance gains you'll only appreciate on a track.
DCC - driven standard ride on a test drive and found it more than adequate?
Leather - boiling hot in the summer, big battery drain in the winter if you like heated seats - the plain leather also takes something away that is integral to the GTI identity inside the car - tartan seats. If looked after with a decent protector, your cloth seats will still look like new after 3 years.
Sunroof - Do you think the inside of the GTI looks claustrophobic or do you think the black headlining looks great? Want a bit of a breeze on your head, then point the vents upwards.
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Nav is a must for me. I'd drop the PP.
Since I ordered I now think its too expensive. I'm thinking if dropping PP, DCC, leather, sunroof and saving £3.5k. My advice would be cut your options back as much as possible. You don't need PP.
Recent events have seriously changed my views. :undecided:
I echo this really. Standard Nav is just fine if all you need is built-in nav, and I don't care what anybody says about having not driven a car with PP...it's not something people need unless they drive on a track, or like they are on a track. Who cares about gaining 1s per mile around a track though?! Even from a safety argument, I don't cane it out of corners, and so far have managed to stay on the road without a diff all these years.
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Nav is a must for me. I'd drop the PP.
Since I ordered I now think its too expensive. I'm thinking if dropping PP, DCC, leather, sunroof and saving £3.5k. My advice would be cut your options back as much as possible. You don't need PP.
Recent events have seriously changed my views. :undecided:
I echo this really. Standard Nav is just fine if all you need is built-in nav, and I don't care what anybody says about having not driven a car with PP...it's not something people need unless they drive on a track, or like they are on a track. Who cares about gaining 1s per mile around a track though?! Even from a safety argument, I don't cane it out of corners, and so far have managed to stay on the road without a diff all these years.
Same old arguments. Rather than driving a GTI you could be driving a hybrid and saving the planet. We all have different opinions. For me the GTI is a hot hatch and the PP makes it hotter :evil: :evil:
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Nav is a must for me. I'd drop the PP.
Since I ordered I now think its too expensive. I'm thinking if dropping PP, DCC, leather, sunroof and saving £3.5k. My advice would be cut your options back as much as possible. You don't need PP.
Recent events have seriously changed my views. :undecided:
I echo this really. Standard Nav is just fine if all you need is built-in nav, and I don't care what anybody says about having not driven a car with PP...it's not something people need unless they drive on a track, or like they are on a track. Who cares about gaining 1s per mile around a track though?! Even from a safety argument, I don't cane it out of corners, and so far have managed to stay on the road without a diff all these years.
Same old arguments. Rather than driving a GTI you could be driving a hybrid and saving the planet. We all have different opinions. For me the GTI is a hot hatch and the PP makes it hotter :evil: :evil:
I tend to agree if you are going to get this type of car then surely you should be looking at this upgrade. Imo not getting the PP upgrade may prejudice the residuals and will certainly make it harder to sell on, I suspect that the vast majority of the PP cost would be recouped at resale time anyway. Surely a no brainer :shocked:
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PP = No brainer :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Unless Steve17's wife drives like 'The Stig' why not save a grand and use it to fill the tank.
Are we saying he'll be slumming it with the 'stock' GTI? If not then save the cash or buy the fancy Sat Nav if you must.
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PP = No brainer :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Unless Steve17's wife drives like 'The Stig' why not save a grand and use it to fill the tank.
Are we saying he'll be slumming it with the 'stock' GTI? If not then save the cash or buy the fancy Sat Nav if you must.
I agree but using that logic would it not be better to get Steves wife a GTD and get more mpg and probably better residuals :undecided:
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Same old arguments. Rather than driving a GTI you could be driving a hybrid and saving the planet. We all have different opinions. For me the GTI is a hot hatch and the PP makes it hotter :evil: :evil:
Well that's just it, you feel the PP makes the car hotter, and for you that's obviously a huge deal. Paying an extra grand for something that adds weight and shaves only a tenth of the 0-60 time is not something I'd jump at. Different strokes for different folks, and irrelevant hybrid comparisons aside, all I'm saying is that the stock GTI, for what it represents, offers all the performance I want in an everyday runner.
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I think we should slap everyone who from now says something is a no brainer...ffs! one option for one is not what everyone should have and it won't make a blind bit of difference come resale time if the gti has pp or not. its just something else for VW to rub those greasy palms about as are most options. if it were me I'd be ditching the keyless the leather and the pp and going with the the large sat nav and park assist. you will never notice the pp in everyday driving to and from work or to the shops.
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Same old arguments. Rather than driving a GTI you could be driving a hybrid and saving the planet. We all have different opinions. For me the GTI is a hot hatch and the PP makes it hotter :evil: :evil:
Well that's just it, you feel the PP makes the car hotter, and for you that's obviously a huge deal. Paying an extra grand for something that adds weight and shaves only a tenth of the 0-60 time is not something I'd jump at. Different strokes for different folks, and irrelevant hybrid comparisons aside, all I'm saying is that the stock GTI, for what it represents, offers all the performance I want in an everyday runner.
I've paid an extra grand for an extra 10bhp, an LSD and bigger brakes. Your paying £600 for effectively a heated front screen. Who's getting the better value for money?
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I've paid an extra grand for an extra 10bhp, an LSD and bigger brakes. Your paying £600 for effectively a heated front screen. Who's getting the better value for money?
Like we said, differing opinions on what's important and what represents value. A pro race driver only eeked out 1s per mile around the Nurburgring with PP, so that means what to me in everyday driving?! 10 extra HP is joke really, and only there to help offset the extra weight of the diff and brakes. I also have to question just how ineffective people think the stock brakes are relative to PP...going by reviews they just appear to be eye candy. I can't argue that the diff of course will make a difference to drag starts and powering out of corners, but I don't drive like that. Nothing at all in the PP as it currently stands makes any difference to how I'll use and experience the car for 99.9% of the time.
A heated windscreen however, that's an additional feature that the car either has or it doesn't. I just happen to value comfort and convenience over performance fractions.
As ever this can go around in circles so let's just agree to disagree and enjoy our options :)
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I've paid an extra grand for an extra 10bhp, an LSD and bigger brakes. Your paying £600 for effectively a heated front screen. Who's getting the better value for money?
Like we said, differing opinions on what's important and what represents value. A pro race driver only eeked out 1s per mile around the Nurburgring with PP, so that means what to me in everyday driving?! 10 extra HP is joke really, and only there to help offset the extra weight of the diff and brakes. I also have to question just how ineffective people think the stock brakes are relative to PP...going by reviews they just appear to be eye candy. I can't argue that the diff of course will make a difference to drag starts and powering out of corners, but I don't drive like that. Nothing at all in the PP as it currently stands makes any difference to how I'll use and experience the car for 99.9% of the time.
A heated windscreen however, that's an additional feature that the car either has or it doesn't. I just happen to value comfort and convenience over performance fractions.
As ever this can go around in circles so let's just agree to disagree and enjoy our options :)
That's fair enough, but if you prefer comfort and convenience over performance why not go down the GTD route and save a few quid on petrol. The GTD has good performance and probably all you would ever need. Why the need for a GTI if your not that interested in performance stats? Just asking?
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That's fair enough, but if you prefer comfort and convenience over performance why not go down the GTD route and save a few quid on petrol. The GTD has good performance and probably all you would ever need. Why the need for a GTI if your not that interested in performance stats? Just asking?
A fair observation and question, with simple answers really. I currently have a Mk5 GTI, bought because barring the not-so-nice rear bumper, I loved the looks (including red accents), smooth petrol engine, effortless performance, and it brings a smile to my face even to this day. I've driven diesels before, not really for me, and with the mileage I do, the cost benefits are of little relevance.
I'm buying the Mk7 GTI for much the same reasons, except this time there is not one angle I don't like about it. Again, I like the red accents, and much prefer the GTI alloys over the GTD ones. You wrongly assume that I'm not interested in performance stats. If I wasn't bothered I'd just get a normal Golf, but there is a level of performance, smoothness and agility I'm used to enjoying, only to be improved on with the Mk7. What I'm not interested in is eeking out a 10th here, 1s per mile there and adding stuff that's really only ever going to be realised by a skilled driver on a track.