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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: kingaz on 27 July 2013, 21:38
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Just driving home whem bang, engines dropped on the drivers side a good 4 inches..whining and rattling like a b!tch..
Any ideas what to do?
Im guessing its an engine mount somehwhere..cambelt cover and that has all come off. Drove her home but now im gonna leave it till morning then have a look. What parts do i need?
Cheers
Az
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Whatever you do don't just leave it. Get a jack and blocks and support the engine asap.
You'll need a new mount and fixings. Though I'd be more worried that something else has been shagged because it was driven.
I'd check the driveshafts, belts, hoses and the other mounts at least. I'm also really surprised you didn't lose the servo assist when the engine dropped.
How long ago was the belt changed?
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Had no choice mate was stuck so had to drive it, erm 120thou its now on 139, done 2011 i think mate..
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This same thing happened to me last year however as soon as it happened I turned my engine off and got the car recovered with me my engine mount snapped and the bolts snapped in the block cost me £700 to have the bolts drilled out and a new mount put on with warrenty. :cry:
The whine happened as well it will be your snapped mount leaning on your cam belt.
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This same thing happened to me last year however as soon as it happened I turned my engine off and got the car recovered with me my engine mount snapped and the bolts snapped in the block cost me £700 to have the bolts drilled out and a new mount put on with warrenty. :cry:
The whine happened as well it will be your snapped mount leaning on your cam belt.
f**kin hell ur jokin? So cambelts gna be shagged aswell? 700quid man wtf?!
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you may of gotten lucky, if im honest I paid the bill before checking elsewhere so i think i kinda got shafted :whistle:
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It's happened to someone I know. The bolts failed after abour 20k after the belts were done.
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Mines apart now. All 3 bolts r stuck in the engine..managed to get 2 out but the cambelt is shredded down the one side.. hna b a big job
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I have never in my life heard of something like that happening. it really makes you question vags ability to do anything right lately. their reputation for good quality is really taking a tumble.
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Sorted. Kinda.. got 2 bolts in as the actual bits snapped off the block for the 3rd.. BUT sumps cracked where it hit the floor... ideally needs alloy welding but will chemical metal do for now?
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I have never in my life heard of something like that happening. it really makes you question vags ability to do anything right lately. their reputation for good quality is really taking a tumble.
To be fair its not really VAGs fault. When the garage replaced the bolts after a belt change they probably didn't torque the bolts up properly.
It was a bolt fatigue failure, so its probably the same thing.
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Sorted. Kinda.. got 2 bolts in as the actual bits snapped off the block for the 3rd.. BUT sumps cracked where it hit the floor... ideally needs alloy welding but will chemical metal do for now?
Don't run the mount with only 2 bolts, doing that is just asking for another failure. Also check the hoses to the brake lines, the cambelt and the driveshafts.
No idea about the sump.
Were you driving at the time?
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I have never in my life heard of something like that happening. it really makes you question vags ability to do anything right lately. their reputation for good quality is really taking a tumble.
To be fair its not really VAGs fault. When the garage replaced the bolts after a belt change they probably didn't torque the bolts up properly.
It was a bolt fatigue failure, so its probably the same thing.
yeah I guess so. but on some cars your meant to replace the mounting bolts when you've had it off. which in my opinion is just another way to get more money out of car owner. the bolts are obviously not strong enough for the job.
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yeah I guess so. but on some cars your meant to replace the mounting bolts when you've had it off. which in my opinion is just another way to get more money out of car owner. the bolts are obviously not strong enough for the job.
You only need to replace stretch bolts, or those that have been torqued to yield.
The engine mount bolts are grade 10.9, which is an extremely high strength bolt.
When you create a joint with a bolt, the bolt actually carries very little of the load if its torqued correctly. Its the joint that carries the load.
What happens when you don't torque a bolt correctly is that the joint clamping force is poor and you get separation, the bolt is constantly loaded and unloaded. This leads to a failure due to fatigue.
So the moral of the story is always make sure bolts are done to the correct torque.
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the four bolts that go down through the engine mount should be renewed after removal. :nerd: