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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 23:15

Title: Delivery Mileage
Post by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 23:15
How many miles on the clock would you expect your new car to have when you take delivery?  Just a couple ie. to fill the car up?  My mk 6 had 19 - they told me at the time this was normal but looking back that seems like complete b0llocks, right?
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: JoeGTI on 18 July 2013, 23:16
Mine had about 25kms (15 ish miles)
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: AAddict on 18 July 2013, 23:17
My MK6 had 7 miles, Mrs's Polo had 9 miles. Her current Mini Cooper had just 4 miles on it, and took 3 weeks from ordering a factory build to collection at the dealer.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Jimble on 18 July 2013, 23:20
My mk6 had 14 miles on when i picked it up but tbf the nearest petrol station is a good 3-4 miles plus road test so ithought it was ok, i was worried when i thought my mk7 was going to be sat at the dealer for a month or two that it might be used as a demo but i was assured it wouldn't but it will prob have 20+ miles on!! :o  I've told the dealer already that as i'll now be picking it up asap after it arrives it better have sub 20 miles on or i'll be kicking up a fuss!! >:(
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 July 2013, 23:22
My mk6 had 14 miles on when i picked it up but tbf the nearest petrol station is a good 3-4 miles plus road test so ithought it was ok, i was worried when i thought my mk7 was going to be sat at the dealer for a month or two that it might be used as a demo but i was assured it wouldn't but it will prob have 20+ miles on!! :o  I've told the dealer already that as i'll now be picking it up asap after it arrives it better have sub 20 miles on or i'll be kicking up a fuss!! >:(

Anthything under 30 miles isn't abnormal. I've had between 4 and 26 miles on each new VW (6) that i've had.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: matchboy on 18 July 2013, 23:24
Well the nearest petrol station to my dealer is literally round the corner, so 19 miles seems excessive!  I understand giving it a quick run but ill be asking it has <5 miles as anything else is is a p!sstake.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Jimble on 18 July 2013, 23:25
My mk6 had 14 miles on when i picked it up but tbf the nearest petrol station is a good 3-4 miles plus road test so ithought it was ok, i was worried when i thought my mk7 was going to be sat at the dealer for a month or two that it might be used as a demo but i was assured it wouldn't but it will prob have 20+ miles on!! :o  I've told the dealer already that as i'll now be picking it up asap after it arrives it better have sub 20 miles on or i'll be kicking up a fuss!! >:(

Anthything under 30 miles isn't abnormal. I've had between 4 and 26 miles on each new VW (6) that i've had.


I think 30 miles is a bit excessive, why would it need to have that many on? Can't do more than 5 being moved from production line to dealership?
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: AAddict on 18 July 2013, 23:27
I always think new cars with higher mileage have had a problem either at the factory QC dept or at the dealership and they've had to repeatedly test until fixed. Or they've damaged bodywork/paint and need to go to fro from the bodyshop.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 18 July 2013, 23:28
My current car had 11 miles on the clock. I would say anything under 20 is about acceptable
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: dirvy on 18 July 2013, 23:53
When Merylee motors gives me Craigw car for a loan till mines ready, ill try not to put too many miles on.. :evil:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: master_hayabusa on 19 July 2013, 00:16
Well actually everyone here is assuming that the car is dropped off to the dealership on a trailer. My local dealer said their cars get dropped off in a VW car pound. Then they are driven to the dealership. The distance from the car pound to the dealership is about 20 miles.

Then the PDI road test.

So I think in this case 25 miles.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 19 July 2013, 07:39
When Merylee motors gives me Craigw car for a loan till mines ready, ill try not to put too many miles on.. :evil:


dirvy, you chose the wrong Glasgow branch pal. West side is the only side  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Jimble on 19 July 2013, 08:07
Well actually everyone here is assuming that the car is dropped off to the dealership on a trailer. My local dealer said their cars get dropped off in a VW car pound. Then they are driven to the dealership. The distance from the car pound to the dealership is about 20 miles.

Then the PDI road test.

So I think in this case 25 miles.


Most if not all dealerships have a storage compound, mine is literally round the corner though.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Sootchucker on 19 July 2013, 08:10
My misuses new Polo Blue GT only had 4 miles

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Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: firefly125 on 19 July 2013, 08:20
Does this mean when I collect my gti it should have a full tank of fuel
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: AAddict on 19 July 2013, 08:26
Does this mean when I collect my gti it should have a full tank of fuel

1/2 tank is part of the huge rip off that is "On The Road Charges"  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: DougL on 19 July 2013, 08:38
Does this mean when I collect my gti it should have a full tank of fuel

1/2 tank is part of the huge rip off that is "On The Road Charges"  :lipsrsealed:

Just wondering where that 1/2 tank thing came from; the brochures states "on the road costs' as £438.33 as delivery to dealer, £20 for plates, £91.67 for VAT and first reg fee of £55 = £605. No mention of fuel. Last Golf I bought, they did charge me £20 for fuel on the invoice though!
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Gryzor on 19 July 2013, 08:43
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: AAddict on 19 July 2013, 08:55
Does this mean when I collect my gti it should have a full tank of fuel

1/2 tank is part of the huge rip off that is "On The Road Charges"  :lipsrsealed:

Just wondering where that 1/2 tank thing came from; the brochures states "on the road costs' as £438.33 as delivery to dealer, £20 for plates, £91.67 for VAT and first reg fee of £55 = £605. No mention of fuel. Last Golf I bought, they did charge me £20 for fuel on the invoice though!

My mistake, I wrongly assumed it was part of the OTR charges. I still can't believe what a con they are BTW.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Ricepop on 19 July 2013, 08:59
My wife bought a new Skoda Fabia in 2002, when she collected it the dealer 'zeroed' the mileage on it. He said that with all VAG products if you hold the mileage reset button for a while (it was about 30 seconds) it will zero. The mileage has to be less than 80 miles and it can only be done 3 times. It was a while ago so it may have changed.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: drisser on 19 July 2013, 09:13
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Exactly.  Come on guys, everyone knows its the final deal closer..  :grin:  When you squeezed all you can , ask for the full tank of fuel, its worth another £60 or more !
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 19 July 2013, 09:34
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: barrym381 on 19 July 2013, 11:42
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.
lucky for you the petrol station is right at your dealer  :grin:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 19 July 2013, 11:53
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.
lucky for you the petrol station is right at your dealer  :grin:

I know Barry but right beside the dealer is a bp one and if they put anything in the tank that is what it's going to be. Ill be straight up to the shell garage for some v power  :smiley:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Gryzor on 19 July 2013, 11:56
Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

Makes no odds to me - there is no proof that more expensive fuel provides better performance and prolongs engine life.  I've been using supermarket fuels in my Mk5 GTI for years, and it has been as reliable and consistent as ever.  Make sure you drain what is in your tank first though, don't want that premium stuff getting contaminated!
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: barrym381 on 19 July 2013, 12:00
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.
lucky for you the petrol station is right at your dealer  :grin:

I know Barry but right beside the dealer is a bp one and if they put anything in the tank that is what it's going to be. Ill be straight up to the shell garage for some v power  :smiley:
then up a blast past loch lomond would be my 1st couple of hours in the gti  :grin:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 19 July 2013, 12:09
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.
lucky for you the petrol station is right at your dealer  :grin:

I know Barry but right beside the dealer is a bp one and if they put anything in the tank that is what it's going to be. Ill be straight up to the shell garage for some v power  :smiley:
then up a blast past loch lomond would be my 1st couple of hours in the gti  :grin:

Exactly what I intend to do Barry  :smiley:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: barrym381 on 19 July 2013, 12:11
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.
lucky for you the petrol station is right at your dealer  :grin:

I know Barry but right beside the dealer is a bp one and if they put anything in the tank that is what it's going to be. Ill be straight up to the shell garage for some v power  :smiley:
then up a blast past loch lomond would be my 1st couple of hours in the gti  :grin:

Exactly what I intend to do Barry  :smiley:
:grin: :grin: nice 1 hope your going to long way up past the carbeth inn  :grin:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 19 July 2013, 12:13
Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

Makes no odds to me - there is no proof that more expensive fuel provides better performance and prolongs engine life.  I've been using supermarket fuels in my Mk5 GTI for years, and it has been as reliable and consistent as ever.  Make sure you drain what is in your tank first though, don't want that premium stuff getting contaminated!

Ouch, I can see we're going to get on like a house on fire on this forum. You stick to your cheap stuff and wave goodbye to a few ponies and ill stick to my premium brands
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: neilgcal on 19 July 2013, 12:15
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

I bought from the same dealer in Glasgow as you (Crow Road) and had to pay extra for fuel on delivery! Another £25!!!
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: barrym381 on 19 July 2013, 12:17
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

I bought from the same dealer in Glasgow as you (Crow Road) and had to pay extra for fuel on delivery! Another £25!!!
this is arnold clarks new trick to save them lots of money  :wink:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: barrym381 on 19 July 2013, 12:17
Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

Makes no odds to me - there is no proof that more expensive fuel provides better performance and prolongs engine life.  I've been using supermarket fuels in my Mk5 GTI for years, and it has been as reliable and consistent as ever.  Make sure you drain what is in your tank first though, don't want that premium stuff getting contaminated!
you sure about that  :undecided:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/high-octane-equals-better-mpg
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 19 July 2013, 12:55
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

I bought from the same dealer in Glasgow as you (Crow Road) and had to pay extra for fuel on delivery! Another £25!!!

Have you got a bw yet Neil?
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: neilgcal on 19 July 2013, 13:22
Fuel is never part of the deal unless you specifically ask for it.  I always insist on the car being brimmed before collection, one of the first things I negotiate!

Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

I bought from the same dealer in Glasgow as you (Crow Road) and had to pay extra for fuel on delivery! Another £25!!!

Have you got a bw yet Neil?

Provisional is wk41. Ordered mid June.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: skippy on 19 July 2013, 15:10
My Scirocco had 12 on it when I got it, but an RX-8 I owned several years ago had 85 on it when I picked it up! Admittedley they transferred it from another dealer (about 35 miles away), but I was quite surprised to see 85 on it.

My wifes Polo had 11 on it.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: dubber36 on 19 July 2013, 15:18
The Leon Cupra that I bought in 2002 had 235 miles on it. The dealer had to collect it from the other end of the country as I was going to the South of France the next day. That car had 2300 miles on it in just over a week.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 July 2013, 15:19
The Leon Cupra that I bought in 2002 had 235 miles on it. The dealer had to collect it from the other end of the country as I was going to the South of France the next day. That car had 2300 miles on it in just over a week.

They grow up so quickly don't they? :smiley:
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: dubber36 on 19 July 2013, 15:45
They sure do.

I remember my first new car. A 1999 Golf GTI. That had 6 miles on it when I picked it up. I didn't like seeing it reach 100miles. Less so at 1000miles. It seemed like it wasn't my baby anymore.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 19 July 2013, 15:50
The Leon Cupra that I bought in 2002 had 235 miles on it. The dealer had to collect it from the other end of the country as I was going to the South of France the next day. That car had 2300 miles on it in just over a week.

Dubber, how did you find running it in on such an extended run? Not supposed to be good running the engine in at constant (motorway) speeds.

Was the Cupra ever compromised as a result? Be interested to know.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: dubber36 on 19 July 2013, 17:25
The Leon Cupra that I bought in 2002 had 235 miles on it. The dealer had to collect it from the other end of the country as I was going to the South of France the next day. That car had 2300 miles on it in just over a week.

Dubber, how did you find running it in on such an extended run? Not supposed to be good running the engine in at constant (motorway) speeds.

Was the Cupra ever compromised as a result? Be interested to know.

I can't say it did it any harm at all. I had it for 3 years and over 60,000 miles without a hitch. It never even used a drop of oil between services.

It did get a few squirts to vary the speeds along the Auto Route. Despite nudging 100mph at times, it was only ever done on half throttle on the way down. Coming home, it did and indicated 145mph, which obviously was full throttle, but it had done nearly 2000 miles by then.

I think that there is a lot of un-necessary concern about the way to run a new car in. They are mass produced consumer goods, that are over engineered to take a lot of abuse under wildly varying conditions. I'm not suggesting that they should be abused, but common sense and a certain amount of mechanical sympathy is all that is required.
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: corgi on 24 July 2013, 10:28
Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

Makes no odds to me - there is no proof that more expensive fuel provides better performance and prolongs engine life.  I've been using supermarket fuels in my Mk5 GTI for years, and it has been as reliable and consistent as ever.  Make sure you drain what is in your tank first though, don't want that premium stuff getting contaminated!
you sure about that  :undecided:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/high-octane-equals-better-mpg

Interesting...

The Astra VXR; does Vauxhall recommend 98 RON?

The point is, it depends on what the car is mapped for, if it is mapped for 95 RON putting a higher octane rating should not give you more power, or better fuel consumption.

If you put 95 RON in a car mapped for 98, I would expect to see what Autocar found... the car backs off the timing to avoid detonation (pinking) and the less optimum settings result in less power and greater fuel consumption...

So, if the Golf is mapped at the factory for 95 RON, putting 97, 98 or 99 in should make no significant difference...
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 24 July 2013, 10:59
Then they nip down to the supermarket and put in the cheapest and nastiest stuff possible. No thanks, for the sake of £50 I'd rather full it up myself and know from the outset the engine is getting the best start to life.

Makes no odds to me - there is no proof that more expensive fuel provides better performance and prolongs engine life.  I've been using supermarket fuels in my Mk5 GTI for years, and it has been as reliable and consistent as ever.  Make sure you drain what is in your tank first though, don't want that premium stuff getting contaminated!
you sure about that  :undecided:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/high-octane-equals-better-mpg

Interesting...

The Astra VXR; does Vauxhall recommend 98 RON?

The point is, it depends on what the car is mapped for, if it is mapped for 95 RON putting a higher octane rating should not give you more power, or better fuel consumption.

If you put 95 RON in a car mapped for 98, I would expect to see what Autocar found... the car backs off the timing to avoid detonation (pinking) and the less optimum settings result in less power and greater fuel consumption...

So, if the Golf is mapped at the factory for 95 RON, putting 97, 98 or 99 in should make no significant difference...

Read about the interesting octane debate here corgi:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=256832.0
Title: Re: Delivery Mileage
Post by: CraigW on 27 July 2013, 11:57
Just checked my new car and it had 7.8 miles on the clock which I don't think is too bad