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Title: Number Plate
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 12:27
How many of you will be choosing your own number plate or will you let your dealer pick it for you?  I know in the past with VW I've been allowed to pick my own plate off the list of potential plate numbers that they have.  Me, I'll certainly be picking mine as don't want to end up with BJ63 OBS or something horrendous like that!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 12:35
How many of you will be choosing your own number plate or will you let your dealer pick it for you?  I know in the past with VW I've been allowed to pick my own plate off the list of potential plate numbers that they have.  Me, I'll certainly be picking mine as don't want to end up with BJ63 OBS or something horrendous like that!

Uh oh, I think my dealer is in the region that starts with "B" :sad: :grin: :grin:

I didn't know you could choose your plate.  I assumed they filled in some details on a DVLA website and it just spat out the result.  Don't the DVLA charge you for choosing a plate (even if its something boring) so would seem this would not be something they'd want to allow if they are making cash out of it!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 12:38
How many of you will be choosing your own number plate or will you let your dealer pick it for you?  I know in the past with VW I've been allowed to pick my own plate off the list of potential plate numbers that they have.  Me, I'll certainly be picking mine as don't want to end up with BJ63 OBS or something horrendous like that!

Uh oh, I think my dealer is in the region that starts with "B" :sad: :grin: :grin:

I didn't know you could choose your plate.  I assumed they filled in some details on a DVLA website and it just spat out the result.  Don't the DVLA charge you for choosing a plate (even if its something boring) so would seem this would not be something they'd want to allow if they are making cash out of it!

They get given a whole list of plates for registration which they can email you a week or so before delivery.  They'll all start the same (I think my dealer is LT63) but I've always been able to pick the final 3 digits - I have nightmares about being given LT63 COC or LT63 BJS or some other embarrassing plate - so I pick something non descript/can't make a rude word out of!!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 12:46
How many of you will be choosing your own number plate or will you let your dealer pick it for you?  I know in the past with VW I've been allowed to pick my own plate off the list of potential plate numbers that they have.  Me, I'll certainly be picking mine as don't want to end up with BJ63 OBS or something horrendous like that!

Uh oh, I think my dealer is in the region that starts with "B" :sad: :grin: :grin:

I didn't know you could choose your plate.  I assumed they filled in some details on a DVLA website and it just spat out the result.  Don't the DVLA charge you for choosing a plate (even if its something boring) so would seem this would not be something they'd want to allow if they are making cash out of it!

They get given a whole list of plates for registration which they can email you a week or so before delivery.  They'll all start the same (I think my dealer is LT63) but I've always been able to pick the final 3 digits - I have nightmares about being given LT63 COC or LT63 BJS or some other embarrassing plate - so I pick something non descript/can't make a rude word out of!!

I wonder if this is bending the DVLA rules?

They're basically charging hundreds of quid to do the same thing:
http://dvlaregistrations.direct.gov.uk/search/current-number-plates.html?prefix1=L&prefix2=T&numbers=13&letter1=&letter2=&letter3=&action=current&pricefrom=0&priceto=&currentmatches=59&searched=true&openoption=yes&language=en&prefix2.x=98&prefix2.y=23
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: drisser on 10 July 2013, 12:52
I foresaw having a nice car at some point a couple of years ago and bought DR11SCO so i wont have to worry about that (my surname is Driscoll and was always called Drisco at school !) :smiley:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: CraigW on 10 July 2013, 13:03
Private plate for me so not really bothered what the registration is  :smiley:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 13:12
Apparently the next auction is 25th July.  They want up to £3k - £5k for some of the plates (is this the reserve? :shocked:) but if you sort by price you get some cheap ones:

NumberCost
Party anyone?P42 RTY250
Any Carltons here?C447 TON300
Mr Fields?F133 LDS300
Still using leaded?L34 DED300
One for MarkP463 BOY300
There must be a Chris?CHR 157M350

:grin: :grin: :grin:

I really wouldn't waste my money though...
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: CraigW on 10 July 2013, 13:20
Apparently the next auction is 25th July.  They want up to £3k - £5k for some of the plates (is this the reserve? :shocked:) but if you sort by price you get some cheap ones:

NumberCost
Party anyone?P42 RTY250
Any Carltons here?C447 TON300
Mr Fields?F133 LDS300
Still using leaded?L34 DED300
One for MarkP463 BOY300
There must be a Chris?CHR 157M350

:grin: :grin: :grin:

I really wouldn't waste my money though...


There's lots more expensive than that

3 SJ   - In the last auction sold for £17,800  :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 13:23
There's lots more expensive than that

3 SJ   - In the last auction sold for £17,800  :shocked: :shocked:

These are the reserve prices I guess?  Or opening at?  Yeah £5000 was for "19 O" or something...
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: dubber36 on 10 July 2013, 13:29
Private plates are definitely the way to go. Short, prefix style ones, the shorter the better.

Single digit ones are getting harder to get hold of these days. I'm glad I bought the kids theirs and put them on retention when they were born.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: CraigW on 10 July 2013, 13:31
There's lots more expensive than that

3 SJ   - In the last auction sold for £17,800  :shocked: :shocked:

These are the reserve prices I guess?  Or opening at?  Yeah £5000 was for "19 O" or something...

Yeah £5000 was the reserve price. It just goes to show what people are prepared to pay for a private reg and that is nowhere near the most expensive
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Jimble on 10 July 2013, 13:42
Personal plate for me although it is a bit of a ball ache to get it moved to the new one! :angry: i will be having my pressed plates on this one though as i never got round to it with my mk6. :cool:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 10 July 2013, 13:51
I wonder if this is bending the DVLA rules?

They're basically charging hundreds of quid to do the same thing:
http://dvlaregistrations.direct.gov.uk/search/current-number-plates.html?prefix1=L&prefix2=T&numbers=13&letter1=&letter2=&letter3=&action=current&pricefrom=0&priceto=&currentmatches=59&searched=true&openoption=yes&language=en&prefix2.x=98&prefix2.y=23

When my mate bought his new Focus, he was allowed to pick from a pre-selected list of registration numbers.  It's hardly like a private plate that costs hundreds - just normal registrations that give you a bit of choice.  Either way, my new private plate that I got for my birthday will be going on it, so no it's not something I need to concern myself about, but yeah, it would suck getting a CR4 PPY plate!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 13:58
That link goes to standard plates for which the DVLA charge £400-800.  They aren't "private" like you're thinking.  If you saw one you'd have no idea it was special. I suppose the difference is the dealer has a few numbers but the DVLA can give you anything.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: KyleB on 10 July 2013, 14:30
Are pressed plates road legal? They do look a lot better but can't be arsed with the hassle of getting a fine/points
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Jimble on 10 July 2013, 14:33
Are pressed plates road legal? They do look a lot better but can't be arsed with the hassle of getting a fine/points

Yes as long as they meet the criteria, ie must be the correct font and spacing, must be reflective, myst have the suppliers details and BS number on them and must be white on the front and yellow on the back.

Got mine from here:

http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 10 July 2013, 14:35
Are pressed plates road legal? They do look a lot better but can't be arsed with the hassle of getting a fine/points

As long as the colour, reflectivity, font and spacing complies, yes, as far as I am aware they are legal.

Edit:  Just had a browse around at some - to me they look a bit tacky.  Think I'll stick to regular plates just pressed on.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 14:57
I may get a cheap private plate with my initials when the 63 period runs out.

My brother has various personalised plates - one of them cost £28,000  :shocked:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: allycat45 on 10 July 2013, 15:01
I foresaw having a nice car at some point a couple of years ago and bought DR11SCO so i wont have to worry about that (my surname is Driscoll and was always called Drisco at school !) :smiley:

Are you sure its not because you like to boogie ?  :whistle:

The demo that I drove in York was YY13 HMO which the salesman thought was hilarious. Apparently one of the admin girls who was leaving selected it especially for the manager who would be taking the GTI home each day, so that it sounded like "homo"  :shocked:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 15:06
My brother has various personalised plates - one of them cost £28,000  :shocked:

Did he win the lottery? :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: drisser on 10 July 2013, 15:18
I foresaw having a nice car at some point a couple of years ago and bought DR11SCO so i wont have to worry about that (my surname is Driscoll and was always called Drisco at school !) :smiley:

Are you sure its not because you like to boogie ?  :whistle:

The demo that I drove in York was YY13 HMO which the salesman thought was hilarious. Apparently one of the admin girls who was leaving selected it especially for the manager who would be taking the GTI home each day, so that it sounded like "homo"  :shocked:

Actually my nickname was disco drisco !
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: domrees on 10 July 2013, 15:19
There is VW63GTD available on the DVLA site for all you GTD owners out there
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 15:26
There is VW63GTD available on the DVLA site for all you GTD owners out there

Its just a shame you can't get "I" as a character! haha
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: dubber36 on 10 July 2013, 15:32
I may get a cheap private plate with my initials when the 63 period runs out.

My brother has various personalised plates - one of them cost £28,000  :shocked:

Why keep wait until the 63 period runs out. Id it so that everyone knows you've got a new car?  :rolleyes:

To many £28,000 may seem like an obscene amount of money to spend, but it is a very good investment. Better than money in the bank. Some might say better than in property too.

There is VW63GTD available on the DVLA site for all you GTD owners out there

But what would you do with it when you sell the car? I think that number plates should be personal to you, not the car.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: CraigW on 10 July 2013, 15:38
That link goes to standard plates for which the DVLA charge £400-800.  They aren't "private" like you're thinking.  If you saw one you'd have no idea it was special. I suppose the difference is the dealer has a few numbers but the DVLA can give you anything.

Technically any plate that you have ownership rights to is a private plate even though it may just look like any other standard plate
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: dubber36 on 10 July 2013, 15:52
There is VW63GTD available on the DVLA site for all you GTD owners out there

Its just a shame you can't get "I" as a character! haha

I'm sure there was a lad on here called Ian that had GT11 ANS

I wonder how much GT16 OLF will be when that comes round?
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: JoeGTI on 10 July 2013, 16:05
Are pressed plates road legal? They do look a lot better but can't be arsed with the hassle of getting a fine/points

As long as the colour, reflectivity, font and spacing complies, yes, as far as I am aware they are legal.

Edit:  Just had a browse around at some - to me they look a bit tacky.  Think I'll stick to regular plates just pressed on.

It's funny what one market sees as tacky and others think the opposite. Here in Ireland, lots of dealers fit those plastic / acrylic plates with dealer names printed on, and they are the last word in tacky IMO! Look at all the press releases / official catalogue photos of the GTI - all pressed metal plates (German).

Some dealers here do fit "proper" pressed metal ones though but still adorn them with their own advertising. The law regarding legal fonts / spacing is very fast and loose here though, every dealer seems to interpret it a bit differently. The coppers don't care so long as you really aren't taking the pi$$ with silly italics or german fonts, and even then you'd be unfortunate to get stopped.

First thing I did with my GTI, I whipped off the crappy plastic dealer fitted ones and I fitted pressed metal ones. They look so clean and crisp in comparison.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/joeA3/GTI/null_zpsec5b7fcc.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/joeA3/media/GTI/null_zpsec5b7fcc.jpg.html)







Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 July 2013, 16:17
Your pure white GTI looks sooooo cool, I just had to say it again.

I want mine. :drool: :undecided: :sad:

VW!  Y U NO BUILD FASTER? :evil:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: JoeGTI on 10 July 2013, 16:28
Your pure white GTI looks sooooo cool, I just had to say it again.

I want mine. :drool: :undecided: :sad:

VW!  Y U NO BUILD FASTER? :evil:

 :grin:
I met up with some friends last night, 2 of them have Candy White MK6's. It was amazing to see the difference between candy and pure. My car looked a lot whiter and crisper, Daz white   :smiley: The candy looked creamy in comparison.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 10 July 2013, 16:30
There is VW63GTD available on the DVLA site for all you GTD owners out there

There was... ;)
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 16:55
My brother has various personalised plates - one of them cost £28,000  :shocked:

Did he win the lottery? :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

No, self made!  And he's a lucky cun.....!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 16:57
I may get a cheap private plate with my initials when the 63 period runs out.

My brother has various personalised plates - one of them cost £28,000  :shocked:

Why keep wait until the 63 period runs out. Id it so that everyone knows you've got a new car?  :rolleyes:

Yes

To many £28,000 may seem like an obscene amount of money to spend, but it is a very good investment. Better than money in the bank. Some might say better than in property too.

It's an excellent investment as the price will never drop.  Particularly the one he has, in fact it will be worth more than he paid for it now.

There is VW63GTD available on the DVLA site for all you GTD owners out there

But what would you do with it when you sell the car? I think that number plates should be personal to you, not the car.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: harryhackenbacker on 10 July 2013, 17:00
If you spend some time you can find GT10HOT  dvla £799 ,one I considered ,bought G 1 AVW in the end more my
age type of thing  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 17:02
Also, there's a company (I forget the name) online that will find whatever plate you want (even if it's not available through the DVLA for example) - they then contact the owner on your behalf and try and buy it for you - so if you've got the money you can literally have whatever you want!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: dippy_x on 10 July 2013, 20:46
I didn't know you could kind of select your plate from a list.  This is something that I would definitely like to try and do. I have a temp car at the moment to do me till my GTD arrives.  The number plate is SH12... which is just wrong.  I always thought the DVLA pulled certain plates if they were obviously obscene?
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: AAddict on 10 July 2013, 21:26
I was considering this (£699) but I'm undecided....

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/AnthonyAndrades/ScreenShot2013-07-10at212319_zpsbf4a895a.png)
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: drisser on 10 July 2013, 22:30
Anyone with a tornado red on order let me know,

I have FA57 RED on retention  :wink:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 July 2013, 22:43
Anyone with a tornado red on order let me know,

I have FA57 RED on retention  :wink:

You have that plate and ordered a Carbon Grey one?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: ChrisJL on 10 July 2013, 22:46
oops typing my reply in the wrong thread here :P

I wouldn't say no to the Chris reg if I didn't already have my own private reg hehe :) didn't buy myself though it was a 21st bday gift, not sure I'd buy one myself, swapping it around sometimes a pain :)
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: drisser on 10 July 2013, 23:02
Anyone with a tornado red on order let me know,

I have FA57 RED on retention  :wink:

You have that plate and ordered a Carbon Grey one?  :rolleyes:

Yep, had it since 2007 it was on a TT convertible now retention.. but I didn't fancy a red gti !  I'm hoping someone with a Ferrari 458 on order finds me and makes an offer.   I also have one for when someday in 30 years I can afford something exotic  UR11 SLO  :wink:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: mk7gti on 10 July 2013, 23:08
I quite like the look of metal plates but unfortunately they are illegal in the UK. Apparently the reason is they are not made of a retroreflective material and also because the letters are not flat to the plate and cannot be read by ANPR.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: JoeGTI on 10 July 2013, 23:13
Apparently the reason is they are not made of a retroreflective material and also because the letters are not flat to the plate and cannot be read by ANPR.

Not true. My pressed plates are reflective, they're almost shinier than the pure white car itself  :cool:
I've never had an issue in the past either with electronic toll booths being able to read it and (very unfortunately for me!) the coppers had no trouble reading it with their ANPR cameras either when they nabbed me for speeding.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: mk7gti on 10 July 2013, 23:23
Must look into that. I quite fancy a set  :smiley:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 10 July 2013, 23:33
Apparently the reason is they are not made of a retroreflective material and also because the letters are not flat to the plate and cannot be read by ANPR.

Not true. My pressed plates are reflective, they're almost shinier than the pure white car itself  :cool:
I've never had an issue in the past either with electronic toll booths being able to read it and (very unfortunately for me!) the coppers had no trouble reading it with their ANPR cameras either when they nabbed me for speeding.

I've read into this quite a bit, and from what I can gather, pressed metal plates are not legal in the UK.  As already pointed out, the specification states that they must be made from a retroreflective material (which is not steel or aluminium)  There is distinct difference between reflective and retroreflective.  A reflector scatters light a bit, and reflects it back at the same angle of incidence, meaning unless the light beam is 90 degrees to the surface, it will be reflected away from the source.  A retroreflector minimises scattering, and reflects light back towards the source somewhat regardless of the angle of incidence.  Raised letters also cause issues with scattering.

That's not to say a pressed metal place cannot be read by certain things, but by definition, they are illegal in the UK when fitted to cars registered on or after 1st Sepetmeber 2001.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: matchboy on 10 July 2013, 23:38
Anyone with a tornado red on order let me know,

I have FA57 RED on retention  :wink:

How much?!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: CraigW on 10 July 2013, 23:42
For the avoidance of any doubt re pressed metal number plates

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/uk-legal-pressed-metal-plates-pair.php?cPath=91
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: JoeGTI on 10 July 2013, 23:46
Fair enough. Seems odd though considering many countries on the continent predominantly use pressed plates (including the GTI's homeland, which is notoriously anal about laws!)
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 10 July 2013, 23:49
For the avoidance of any doubt re pressed metal number plates

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/uk-legal-pressed-metal-plates-pair.php?cPath=91

It clearly states they are reflective, not retroreflective, so how can they be legal?
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: CraigW on 11 July 2013, 00:07
For the avoidance of any doubt re pressed metal number plates

http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/uk-legal-pressed-metal-plates-pair.php?cPath=91

It clearly states they are reflective, not retroreflective, so how can they be legal?

There was a good debate on them over on detailing world with the provider actually responding. I must say I'm not actually a big fan of the way they look anyway. I prefer just the normal flat numbered plates

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=205714
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Jimble on 11 July 2013, 01:23
I quite like the look of metal plates but unfortunately they are illegal in the UK. Apparently the reason is they are not made of a retroreflective material and also because the letters are not flat to the plate and cannot be read by ANPR.


So if ANPR can't read raised letters what happens when a German tourist gets done for speeding? ???  Lots of countries have raised letters on their plates and are legal to drive in the UK so i doubt that would cause any issues.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 11 July 2013, 08:20
I quite like the look of metal plates but unfortunately they are illegal in the UK. Apparently the reason is they are not made of a retroreflective material and also because the letters are not flat to the plate and cannot be read by ANPR.


So if ANPR can't read raised letters what happens when a German tourist gets done for speeding? ???  Lots of countries have raised letters on their plates and are legal to drive in the UK so i doubt that would cause any issues.

The law applies to cars registered in the UK, not cars visiting from other countries.  Like I said, it's not that ANPR cannot ever read metal plates or other kind of raised letters, but the specification clearly states what a number plate must be made from.  Metal plates are not retroreflective, so can't be legal.  Happy to be proven wrong though.  I see all kinds of illegal plates on the roads though, from silly fonts to wrong character spacing and incorrect use of screw cap covers to make letters look like something else.  Some get away with it, some don't.  I'd rather eliminate the hassle completely.

Edit: I just had a word with a mate of mine who used to work in the police force a few years back. While he couldn't say for 100% certainty, he was sure that (talking about new plates here) any with raised letters, regardless of material, is illegal in the UK.  He is going to have a chat to somebody he knows still in the force to get some clarification for me.  Not that I'd consider putting such tacky things on my car, but I'm interested to know ;)
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: JoeGTI on 11 July 2013, 11:51
Not that I'd consider putting such tacky things on my car, but I'm interested to know ;)

How pray tell is it "tacky"? And  plastic / acrylic plates somehow aren't? I would think exactly the opposite but each to their own  :laugh:
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 11 July 2013, 11:58
How pray tell is it "tacky"? And  plastic / acrylic plates somehow aren't? I would think exactly the opposite but each to their own  :laugh:

I just think they look out of place on a modern car, especially one like the Mk7 GTI with such clean lines.  Besides, I've never been a fan of dressing up the exterior of my cars in any way just to make them look different.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: JoeGTI on 11 July 2013, 12:09
How pray tell is it "tacky"? And  plastic / acrylic plates somehow aren't? I would think exactly the opposite but each to their own  :laugh:

I just think they look out of place on a modern car, especially one like the Mk7 GTI with such clean lines.  Besides, I've never been a fan of dressing up the exterior of my cars in any way just to make them look different.

But but.... every single VW in Germany (and most other Euro countries) has pressed plates - look at the original promo photos of the GTI,  they look great... I also find that the plastic plates often go all milky and get discoloured (possibly water getting in under the plastic), or they look "distressed" wherever the dealer drilled them for screws. Then they look seriously naff, as if they needed any help in that department.

OK, I give up, different tastes and all that.


Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Gryzor on 11 July 2013, 12:37
I don't live in Germany, I live in the UK, and my plates are going to be stuck on, not drilled.  If they discolour, they are a simple swap.  Besides, if they are indeed illegal in this country, they can look as cool as they want.

Nothing to give up on, if we all had the same tastes the world would be one hell of a boring place!
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 July 2013, 12:48
I think my mind just tunes the plates out now so that I don't even notice them.  Therefore I doubt it matters much.
Title: Re: Number Plate
Post by: JellyB on 11 July 2013, 22:51
As a side note, I have worked with both static and mobile ANPR systems and they have no problems picking up metal pressed plates, reflective or otherwise.

In fact for law enforcement use they are quite scary - unlike the ones you have on petrol station forecourts which are quite funny sometimes!