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Title: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 11:18
I realise that not many here have got their car yet, but for anyone that has - have you tried the phone / bluetooth setup?

I can't get my contacts photos to appear on the screen at all. It's not a big deal obviously but I'd be curious to see it work at least!

The bluetooth audio is far more sophisticated than it was in my GTD (the display shows artist/track names and you can skip tracks via the steering wheel controls), but again,  the album art isn't appearing for bluetooth audio tracks either. This is mostly iTunes bought music I've tried, so the album art should be "ok"?

This is with an iPhone 5 by the way. I haven't tried the SD card yet.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 11:23
Joe,

I know there was a post about album art before.  I'll try searching for it in a bit.  The gist was that you need to have everything in a specific format, I think it was the m4p format that caused a problem but m4a was fine.

Bear.

EDIT:
Dammit, I know I've seen a post or maybe a video somewhere explaining the solution to this but I can't find it now.  I'll keep looking!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 11:31
Don't worry about it Bill, but thanks anyway!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 11:33
Don't worry about it Bill, but thanks anyway!

Well I want the method for myself as well! hehe

This might help, but it isn't the one I was thinking of which I recall being much better:
http://www.haydnwilliams.com/blog/vw-golf-mk7-sd-cards-and-album-art

Guys, I swear there was a video posted where someone used a program convert all his music to a useful format and then to add all the artwork.  Can't find it now, can anyone help?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: p3asa on 03 July 2013, 11:44
Contact photos as in contacts from your phone?
Does it actually do this?
Now that would be really cool.

Reason I ask is my Audi has the album art and phone prep high and there is no way the photos would go from the phone to the car via RSAP. I know its a different system but I would imagine the architecture is much the same.

It would be fantastic if it could and I hope the MK7 has that capability.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 July 2013, 11:47
This was mentioned on another forum and its something to do with the cable that vw supply. Cable has coloured collar on it and vw one doesnt work with iphone 5 i think
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 11:48
Contact photos as in contacts from your phone?
Does it actually do this?
Now that would be really cool.

Reason I ask is my Audi has the album art and phone prep high and there is no way the photos would go from the phone to the car via RSAP. I know its a different system but I would imagine the architecture is much the same.

It would be fantastic if it could and I hope the MK7 has that capability.

p3asa you are a GENIUS!

I was looking for "Golf missing album art problem" but the video I am thinking of is "AUDI missing album art problem":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak6qlrbZ8PM

Ok I know this is SD cards he is talking about but I can easily see how the same problem would occur with BT or a cable if the file formats mean the media unit can't read the album art properly.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 11:51
Contact photos as in contacts from your phone?
Does it actually do this?
Now that would be really cool.

Reason I ask is my Audi has the album art and phone prep high and there is no way the photos would go from the phone to the car via RSAP. I know its a different system but I would imagine the architecture is much the same.

It would be fantastic if it could and I hope the MK7 has that capability.

It is supposed to yes! The manual specifically mentions it and in my 4 pre-saved speed dial phone favourites on the radio screen, there is a match-stick man (!!) in place of where the actual photo should be.


Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 11:52
This was mentioned on another forum and its something to do with the cable that vw supply. Cable has coloured collar on it and vw one doesnt work with iphone 5 i think

Yes, for the MDI maybe but I'm talking about BT audio, hence no cables at all. Track/Album/Artist names do appear, but there's just a blank generic icon in place of where the album art would be.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 11:55
This was mentioned on another forum and its something to do with the cable that vw supply. Cable has coloured collar on it and vw one doesnt work with iphone 5 i think

Yes, for the MDI maybe but I'm talking about BT audio, hence no cables at all. Track/Album/Artist names do appear, but there's just a blank generic icon in place of where the album art would be.

Check that video I just posted.  I think converting itunes music from m4p into mp3 is a good place to start.  According to the video itunes doesn't embed the artwork, so you have to do that first.  Then convert to mp3.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 12:00
This was mentioned on another forum and its something to do with the cable that vw supply. Cable has coloured collar on it and vw one doesnt work with iphone 5 i think

Yes, for the MDI maybe but I'm talking about BT audio, hence no cables at all. Track/Album/Artist names do appear, but there's just a blank generic icon in place of where the album art would be.

Check that video I just posted.  I think converting itunes music from m4p into mp3 is a good place to start.  According to the video itunes doesn't embed the artwork, so you have to do that first.  Then convert to mp3.

Yep, just saw that. I'll give that a go!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 12:13
Check that video I just posted.  I think converting itunes music from m4p into mp3 is a good place to start.  According to the video itunes doesn't embed the artwork, so you have to do that first.  Then convert to mp3.

Yep, just saw that. I'll give that a go!

Let us know how you get on.  I don't know if the programs he uses are free or cost (which I think likely in the case of the DRM removal).  If they do cost it might be worth ripping a single CD to mp3 to test the process before shelling out £15 of whatever for a converter.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 03 July 2013, 12:37
I can confirm that embedded artwork inside an MP3 that's loaded onto an SD card show's correctly on the Mk7 media screen, but I think the artwork has to be less than 500x500px.   I took samples with 640x640 and 320x320 artwork, and only the 320 artwork showed up.

When it comes to music, I prepare and manage all my MP3s external to iTunes, and just use that to get them onto my iPhone.  I use a few different bits of software for this, depending on what I'm doing:

EZ CD Audio Converter (http://www.poikosoft.com) for ripping, converting and removing DRM - Not Free
Tag&Rename (http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm) for tagging and renaming funnily enough! - Not Free
MediaMonkey (http://www.mediamonkey.com) for embedding artwork - Free

You can probably do everything you want with one piece of software, but I'm used to doing things in steps!  I just use Google to get my artwork and that way I get exactly what I want, with all the right tags.  Regarding the size of the artwork, all of mine is high resolution, so not suitable for the Mk7 media.  However, there is a free piece of software that lets you dynamically re-size embedded artwork in bulk:

Sansa MP3 Art Sizer (http://hcware.t15.org/mp3art)

So, all I have done is copied any MP3s I want in my new GTI into a separate folder, and run them against this software.  To change the preferred pixel size and quality, you have to alter the shortcut by adding some settings after the .exe:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Sanse Mp3 Art Sizer\SanseMp3ArtSizer.exe" SanseMp3ArtSizer.exe /320/100

This would give you a 320x320 JPEG, 100% quality.

Hope that helps! :)


Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: p3asa on 03 July 2013, 13:03
This was mentioned on another forum and its something to do with the cable that vw supply. Cable has coloured collar on it and vw one doesnt work with iphone 5 i think

Yes, for the MDI maybe but I'm talking about BT audio, hence no cables at all. Track/Album/Artist names do appear, but there's just a blank generic icon in place of where the album art would be.


Manual upload then? As I can't see that info being passed from phone to car via bluetooth.
Mind the MK6 you could manually upload pictures for your favourites in the sat nav by using Nav Companion
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=152614.msg1399601#msg1399601
Maybe something like that for the contacts.
If it can be done I'm sure its in the manual.

I see Nav Companion now works on the Discover Pro!
http://www.volkswagen.de/de/navigation/discover-pro.html
(If you use Chrome it will convert the language automatically for you)
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Sootchucker on 03 July 2013, 16:41
I heard that Phone contacts don't show at all when using an Iphone (any generation), due to the Iphone not storing the contacts on the Sim Card.

A friend with a "standard" MK7 GT, tried with his Iphone 4s and his wife's 5 to no avail. When he "upgraded" to a Galaxy S III running Android, they all synched perfectly.

Another fail for Apple - and both the wife and myself have Iphones, however mine is issued by work so not easy to change. That's part of the reason I didn't go for the heated windscreen that I wanted, as the complementary advanced phone package it must be specced with, would give us no or very little additional benefit.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 16:53
I heard that Phone contacts don't show at all when using an Iphone (any generation), due to the Iphone not storing the contacts on the Sim Card.

A friend with a "standard" MK7 GT, tried with his Iphone 4s and his wife's 5 to no avail. When he "upgraded" to a Galaxy S III running Android, they all synched perfectly.

Surely Android phones don't store contact data on the sim card though?  The latest smart phones store a lot of data with the contact.  Multiple numbers, names, groups, address details, a photo, email addresses, social networking information... Don't sim cards just hold a character limited name and a number, and only up to 100 or maybe 500 entries?

I know I know, don't call me Shirley...
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: p3asa on 03 July 2013, 17:09
Yeah that's true Bill. I'd imagine the problem to be RSAP (remote sim access protocol) which basically allows a 3rd party unit i.e. the car to take control of the sim / phone. Apple don't allow this which is probably causing the problem.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Jimble on 03 July 2013, 17:17
The bluetooth in my mk6 shows all my contacts from my iphone 4s so i can't see the new one being any different.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Andyduz on 03 July 2013, 17:38
Can anyone confirm the differences between the standard Bluetooth and the advanced phone prep? I have a rsap compatible Nokia phone for work and a personal iPhone 5. I've ordered the advanced phone prep in a company car but not sure how ( if at all) it will benefit the iPhone. Main use will obviously be work related but it would be good to get handsfree calls with synced contacts at the weekend on the iPhone
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 17:42
Can anyone confirm the differences between the standard Bluetooth and the advanced phone prep? I have a rsap compatible Nokia phone for work and a personal iPhone 5. I've ordered the advanced phone prep in a company car but not sure how ( if at all) it will benefit the iPhone. Main use will obviously be work related but it would be good to get handsfree calls with synced contacts at the weekend on the iPhone

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/mobile-phone-preparation

Whereas the standard bluetooth just does the normal stuff, i.e. operate like a hands free kit, gives access to address book, play music etc...  The phone uses its own aerial.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/bluetooth

Basically I think the advanced phone prep is only needed if you are on the phone all the time.  It will give you better signal, and reduce the load on the phone as it won't really be using any power for transmit and receive at all.  However, you can plug the phone into the car to charge so with standard bluetooth the only concern is how hot it might get!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 17:51
The bluetooth in my mk6 shows all my contacts from my iphone 4s so i can't see the new one being any different.

Jimble, all my contacts show fine alright (all numbers, names, etc) - iPhone 5 - it's just the contact photos that don't show up for me. I assume the Mk6 doesn't do that - I had an RNS in my MK6 and it definitely didn't have the capability to show contact photos.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Andyduz on 03 July 2013, 18:10
Can anyone confirm the differences between the standard Bluetooth and the advanced phone prep? I have a rsap compatible Nokia phone for work and a personal iPhone 5. I've ordered the advanced phone prep in a company car but not sure how ( if at all) it will benefit the iPhone. Main use will obviously be work related but it would be good to get handsfree calls with synced contacts at the weekend on the iPhone

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/mobile-phone-preparation

Whereas the standard bluetooth just does the normal stuff, i.e. operate like a hands free kit, gives access to address book, play music etc...  The phone uses its own aerial.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/bluetooth

Basically I think the advanced phone prep is only needed if you are on the phone all the time.  It will give you better signal, and reduce the load on the phone as it won't really be using any power for transmit and receive at all.  However, you can plug the phone into the car to charge so with standard bluetooth the only concern is how hot it might get!
Cheers Bill, should work ok for me then, similar to phone prep in my current Mk6 with RCD510 but with the added benefit of iPhone compatibility for none work calls. Hope they've sorted the Bluetooth on the Mk7 as quite often gets corrupted on Mk6 :undecided:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 July 2013, 18:44
considering android now outsells icrap by at least 3 to 1 now I can't understand why vw give you an iPhone lead and not a designated android one. at least have the option as not everyone has istuff
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Jimble on 03 July 2013, 18:58
The bluetooth in my mk6 shows all my contacts from my iphone 4s so i can't see the new one being any different.

Jimble, all my contacts show fine alright (all numbers, names, etc) - iPhone 5 - it's just the contact photos that don't show up for me. I assume the Mk6 doesn't do that - I had an RNS in my MK6 and it definitely didn't have the capability to show contact photos.


Sorry mate that was to answer Norbreck21a so i should've quoted him, no the mk6 definately doesn't do the photo's.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: peterdoherty on 03 July 2013, 20:05
Used an iPhone 4s in an MK7 S hire car and contacts were fine
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Sootchucker on 03 July 2013, 20:50
Peter, we are not talking about being able to use the Bluetooth with an IOS phone, but more that a new feature of the MK7 platform is being able to see a photo of the contact come up on the head unit. As I understand it, it's only working with non IOS phones at present ?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: peterdoherty on 03 July 2013, 21:04
Peter, we are not talking about being able to use the Bluetooth with an IOS phone, but more that a new feature of the MK7 platform is being able to see a photo of the contact come up on the head unit. As I understand it, it's only working with non IOS phones at present ?

Ah I don't use contact photos. I'm sure this is down to apple doing their own thing in ios rather than any industry common practice/standard
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 11:05
Any more ideas on this. (iPhone 4)

Some artwork will display others won't. Contact pics won't display. Same via bluetooth or cable.

Tried converting to mp 3 no change, I've seen a couple of items on the web which recommended mp3 tag and music converter software. Looked a bit dodgy when downloaded as it is part of a bundle so I removed it.

There must be a simpler way..
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 11:14
Tried converting to mp 3 no change, I've seen a couple of items on the web which recommended mp3 tag and music converter software. Looked a bit dodgy when downloaded as it is part of a bundle so I removed it.

There must be a simpler way..

I had zero issues when I tested my MP3s in a Mk7 with discover media:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=256340.msg2352469#msg2352469

Whether artwork shows or not will depend to a point on the format of the picture, but more the pixel size.  Make it an embedded JPG, less than 500x500, and you should have no problems.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 July 2013, 11:30
Any more ideas on this. (iPhone 4)

Some artwork will display others won't. Contact pics won't display. Same via bluetooth or cable.

Tried converting to mp 3 no change, I've seen a couple of items on the web which recommended mp3 tag and music converter software. Looked a bit dodgy when downloaded as it is part of a bundle so I removed it.

There must be a simpler way..

Did you have a look at this?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak6qlrbZ8PM

Basically it seems you need to insert suitable images into the files (suitably low res I assume) and then convert the files to something other than the protected format apple likes to use.

I don't have any experience with iphones so can't comment on the contact photos, but I would guess that below a certain size is required again.  It may seem like a big job to change them all but if you're anything like me 95% of your calls are with only 5 contacts, so you can just change those ones and you're most of the way there.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 12 July 2013, 11:34
Bill, I gave that a go last weekend and it didn't work. I didn't spend a lot of time at it and I haven't got round to looking at it since. But mine's the same - some songs / albums show artwork and a lot don't. I can't see any pattern or logical reason for it.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 11:38
Basically it seems you need to insert suitable images into the files (suitably low res I assume) and then convert the files to something other than the protected format apple likes to use.

It's all in here guys:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=256340.msg2352469#msg2352469

They need to be unprotected MP3, embedded images, preferably JPG, and less than 500 x 500 pixels.  Links to software is in there too, some free, some not, but none of it dodgy.  There is even a link to an embedded album art converter for if (like me) you have album art already but in hi-res.  This will turn them all into JPG anyway, so worthwhile using it.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 July 2013, 11:40
Bill, I gave that a go last weekend and it didn't work. I didn't spend a lot of time at it and I haven't got round to looking at it since. But mine's the same - some songs / albums show artwork and a lot don't. I can't see any pattern or logical reason for it.

I'd love to investigate (seriously I'd love to, I'm weird like that) but I'm still months (:angry:) away from picking up my car.

Gryzor's info looks promising though.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 12:05
Thanks guys

Some progress, downloaded mp3 tag from CNET - good download.
Then used it to set tags.

Example artwork Coldplay Mylo Xyloto is 600 x 600 (shows in mp3 tag), so i removed this and downloaded a 360x360 version from within the cover artwork option.

This works for m4a or mp3.

Next step is to try Gryzors album art converter, hopefully this will allow bulk conversions.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 12:09
The art converter definitely works in bulk - I did hundreds, if not thousands of tracks in one go.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 12 July 2013, 12:16
Cheers Gryzor, I'll give that a go when I find the motivation to boot up the laptop.

It's a royal pain though, you would think that music bought from the iTunes store for example would work "out of the box" but apparently not...
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 12:46
Cheers Gryzor, I'll give that a go when I find the motivation to boot up the laptop.

It's a royal pain though, you would think that music bought from the iTunes store for example would work "out of the box" but apparently not...

No probs, hope it sorts it for you!  It is a pain I agree, which is why I never buy from iTunes.  I just use that software as a means to get music onto my iDevices.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 12:47
Cheers Gryzor, I'll give that a go when I find the motivation to boot up the laptop.

It's a royal pain though, you would think that music bought from the iTunes store for example would work "out of the box" but apparently not...

You're not wrong Joe.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: KyleB on 12 July 2013, 12:50
Cheers Gryzor, I'll give that a go when I find the motivation to boot up the laptop.

It's a royal pain though, you would think that music bought from the iTunes store for example would work "out of the box" but apparently not...

Just shows that piracy does pay  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 12:54
Just shows that piracy does pay  :grin:

Wash your mouth out, it's "Try before you buy!"  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 12 July 2013, 13:10
So basically all / a lot some of the music I've bought eg iTunes won't show the cover art - even though its been bought legally.

Yet if I had downloaded illegally and then downloaded the cover art it would?  WTF!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 13:24
So basically all / a lot some of the music I've bought eg iTunes won't show the cover art - even though its been bought legally.

Yet if I had downloaded illegally and then downloaded the cover art it would?  WTF!

Streaming from the iPhone, no idea.  But, from SD card, if the album art is not embedded it may not show.  Besides, I've got loads of music purchased from other sites where the album art is embedded.  Part of the reason I prefer it this way is that you can take any single track or combination of tracks, throw them into a folder, and the correct album art will always show.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 12 July 2013, 13:31
So basically all / a lot some of the music I've bought eg iTunes won't show the cover art - even though its been bought legally.

Yet if I had downloaded illegally and then downloaded the cover art it would?  WTF!

Streaming from the iPhone, no idea.  But, from SD card, if the album art is not embedded it may not show.  Besides, I've got loads of music purchased from other sites where the album art is embedded.  Part of the reason I prefer it this way is that you can take any single track or combination of tracks, throw them into a folder, and the correct album art will always show.

So this will work 'straight out of the tin' as it were for all music purchased apart from music bought via iTunes?  So if you've bought via Amazon for eg it will show the artwork - but iTunes won't.  That's ridonculous.

On the plus side, this will now occupy my time converting my library while the long wait continues!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 July 2013, 13:52
thats why ianything is sh4te  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Sootchucker on 12 July 2013, 14:13
It's just how apples iTunes works (rightly or wrongly).

Firstly, any music downloaded officially through iTunes will normally have a DRM (digital rights for media), protection applied to it, which only allows playback through another authorised IOS device (iPod, iPhone, iPad etc.)

So if you want to dump them onto an SD card, the DRM protection first needs removing. And there's plenty of good free software available to do this.

Secondly, as stated by others, iTunes doesn't embed a jpg thumbnail of the album art into the music file. The thumbnails are stored in separate hidden folders either in iTunes or on the IOS device itself. Therefore when you copy some tracks from iTunes onto an SD card, it won't by default have the image already imbedded.

If your music comes from others sources (CD rips, downloads etc), then usually you won't have to bother with removing the DRM protection, but will still need to embed the jpg thumbnail for the album art.

It's a really easy process and I have the freely distributed software to do this on my home PC (however I'm on holiday at the moment), but if anyone needs it when I get back home, just give me a shout.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 July 2013, 14:43
Firstly, any music downloaded officially through iTunes will normally have a DRM (digital rights for media), protection applied to it, which only allows playback through another authorised IOS device (iPod, iPhone, iPad etc.)

So if you want to dump them onto an SD card, the DRM protection first needs removing. And there's plenty of good free software available to do this.

This isn't *strictly* true.  I've found, much to my pleasant surprise, that both Samsung made mobile phones I've owned will happily play iTunes .m4p files.  Presumably the music players on those phones were able to unlock the DRM somehow?  Saved me a lot of effort, possibly including acquiring "illegal" copies of the very music I'd legally bought, just to get it to play.  DRM is the devil.

But yes, in many cases you need to get the DRM removed first.

However, I've now just paid Apple the subscription they want so that all my music now and future is converted to non DRM so I can avoid the issues I was having with other devices.  However, I resent that I am forced to pay for music and then to pay an annual fee just to be able to use that music.  They try to mask this by claiming that the subscription does other things, not just remove the DRM.  Yet it doesn't change the fact that I was forced to either pay up to use something I already paid for, or go down the illegal route just to get what I paid for... Hardly surprising some people just resort to piracy really!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 15:26
considering android now outsells icrap by at least 3 to 1...

thats why ianything is sh4te  :grin:

Mmmm, such strong opinions.  Pointless, and contribute nothing to the thread, but still...  :rolleyes:

For those who care or actually have an interest, I must admit, as much as I like their products and OS, I do find Apple's "lock you in approach" rather annoying, which is why I refuse to buy any music from within iTunes.  I just like to be in control of things right off the bat, so the quality of the music, embedding quality album art, proper tagging and file naming etc.  Just means that things like this where I want to copy a chunk of music to an SD card for my car become so much easier.

As already said though, there is a lot of free software out there that lets you remove DRM, embed album art and even re-size it.  Most of it can be done in bulk as well.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 July 2013, 15:32
considering android now outsells icrap by at least 3 to 1...

thats why ianything is sh4te  :grin:

Mmmm, such strong opinions.  Pointless, and contribute nothing to the thread, but still...  :rolleyes:

For those who care or actually have an interest, I must admit, as much as I like their products and OS, I do find Apple's "lock you in approach" rather annoying, which is why I refuse to buy any music from within iTunes.  I just like to be in control of things right off the bat, so the quality of the music, embedding quality album art, proper tagging and file naming etc.  Just means that things like this where I want to copy a chunk of music to an SD card for my car become so much easier.

As already said though, there is a lot of free software out there that lets you remove DRM, embed album art and even re-size it.  Most of it can be done in bulk as well.
Not pointless and ianything is sh4te. Why do you think android now outsell iphones more than 3 to 1? Anything that forces you to only purchase from one supplier is plainly just wrong. i wouldnt touch Iphone, ipad, ianythnig with a barge pole. My preference of course.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 15:45
Not pointless and ianything is sh4te. Why do you think android now outsell iphones more than 3 to 1? Anything that forces you to only purchase from one supplier is plainly just wrong. i wouldnt touch Iphone, ipad, ianythnig with a barge pole. My preference of course.

Absolutely it's your preference.  I would also have thought that common sense would tell you why Android outsells iPhone by more than 3:1...it's because Apple are the only manufacturer of iOS devices.  Every other manufacturer makes Android phones, so hardly a statistical surprise is it?!  Yet still they own a significant chunk of the market...  You are not forced to buy music from iTunes, you can buy it from anywhere, and just like Android, if you want apps for it, you are locked to that particular store, so not really sure what your point is, apart from to vent about Apple with no real substance.  At the end of the day, both are great operating systems, both have some great hardware available, and both do the same core tasks we expect of smartphones with ease.  Personal choice and prejudice dictate it really.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 16:04
Time to give up and go for a drive...

I've done the following

Converted all files to mp3
Added tags
Resized cover art to 400x400
It works great on an SD card - but not on the iphone cable or bluetooth (exact same mp3 files).

 :huh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JoeGTI on 12 July 2013, 16:13
Time to give up and go for a drive...

I've done the following

Converted all files to mp3
Added tags
Resized cover art to 400x400
It works great on an SD card - but not on the iphone cable or bluetooth (exact same mp3 files).

 :huh:

Good stuff. So did you convert all apple format (m4a, m4p?) files to MP3? What application did you use to do this? I'm looking for the easiest, least hassle approach possible!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 12 July 2013, 16:14
I am pretty sure that Apple / iTunes stopped using the DRM protected *.m4p format some time ago.

If you purchase music through iTunes now you get it in *.m4a format which has no DRM. You can ask iTunes to save any *.m4a file (or multiple files) as an *.mp3 copy if you want it to. Not sure if it embeds the artwork in the mp3 that it produces though. I have checked some music I bought recently and it is definitely in m4a format, not m4p.

Of course that doesn't help those with music bought in iTunes before they moved off m4p and onto m4a. The only route I knew of then was to burn them to an audio CD (which it let you do despite DRM) and then re-rip it back into mp3 format (losing quality each way). There are many utility programs available now to do practically anything you want with media files, and the ones already mentioned earlier will more than likely do everything you need eventually.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 16:21
Good stuff. So did you convert all apple format (m4a, m4p?) files to MP3? What application did you use to do this? I'm looking for the easiest, least hassle approach possible!

I use a paid piece of software called "EZ CD Audio Converter", but a mate of mine uses this:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bonkenc

Can't vouch for its ease-of-use, but it's free, and anything from SourceForge usually gets a thumbs up from me.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 16:31
I used Mp3tag tag to tag the mp3s.
sanse Mp3 Art Sizer to resize images

both quite easy to use and free to download.

The real pain was converting to mp3 (as the above programs don't work with mp4), as alleycat mentioned you have to burn protected mp4 files to Cd and then re import them. You can then convert within iTunes to mp3.

What a kefuffle. I'm just going to buy a large SD and use that.

As mentioned already the exact same mp3 file works from SD but not iPhone 4.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 12 July 2013, 16:33
The reason android outsells apple 3:1 is price, pure and simple. Lots of people can't afford an iPhone or an iPad so an android device is a way of getting nearly the same product but at a cheaper price.

The reason apple products are more expensive is because they're better. You pay for what you get.

And I often buy music off amazon instead of iTunes so I'm certainly not locked into apple in that respect.

Just my opinion of course.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 16:34
The real pain was converting to mp3 (as the above programs don't work with mp4), as alleycat mentioned you have to burn protected mp4 files to Cd and then re import them. You can then convert within iTunes to mp3.

I'm pretty sure the SourceForge hosted one I linked to above handles MP4/M4A.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 16:46
Will it resize album art jpeg files from mp4?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 July 2013, 17:15
Time to give up and go for a drive...

I've done the following

Converted all files to mp3
Added tags
Resized cover art to 400x400
It works great on an SD card - but not on the iphone cable or bluetooth (exact same mp3 files).

 :huh:

On iPhone Bluetooth does some of the artwork display and some not?
How about with the cable?

Are the files that work different, or the same, as the ones before you made the changes?  i.e. say track 1,3 and 8 showed artwork before the change, is it 1,3,8 that still work or is it say 1,5,7,8 that work now?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 17:17
I can't get any of the artwork or contact photos to show from the iphone -  cable or bluetooth.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 18:19
Will it resize album art jpeg files from mp4?

That SourceForge app does not resize artwork.  That's the Sansa software that I linked to and talked about previously.  I'm not sure if it will resize artwork in MP4, but if not it's no big deal because it's trivial to convert a bulk load of MP4s to MP3.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 12 July 2013, 20:22
Thanks again for all of your help guys.

SD card works a treat :cool:




iPhone - who cares.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 July 2013, 20:32
Thanks again for all of your help guys.

SD card works a treat :cool:

iPhone - who cares.

Cheers, nice one, glad you got it sorted!  For audio in the car, I totally agree, who needs an iPhone, or any phone for that matter when SD card just works!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 08:52
The reason android outsells apple 3:1 is price, pure and simple. Lots of people can't afford an iPhone or an iPad so an android device is a way of getting nearly the same product but at a cheaper price.

The reason apple products are more expensive is because they're better. You pay for what you get.

And I often buy music off amazon instead of iTunes so I'm certainly not locked into apple in that respect.

Just my opinion of course.  :smiley:
sorry pal but that's the biggest load of s4ite I've ever heard. price is nothing to with it. android used to be behind iphone but now it's way way ahead and only did hard apple people still buy apple products. if you think your getting a better product from apple just because you've paid more for it then I think you've got more money than sense. big SD card works better than any phone anyway so what does it matter :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 July 2013, 09:06
sorry pal but that's the biggest load of s4ite I've ever heard. price is nothing to with it. android used to be behind iphone but now it's way way ahead and only did hard apple people still buy apple products. if you think your getting a better product from apple just because you've paid more for it then I think you've got more money than sense. big SD card works better than any phone anyway so what does it matter :grin:

Price has nothing to do with it?  Riiiiight...  :rolleyes:  It has something do with it, because most android phones are free on contract for a start.  In addition, what I said about there being far more manufacturers of Android phones contributes significantly to the market dynamics.

To be honest, your previous posts and this one prove that you are just another one of these anti-Apple fanboys on your personal hate campaign.  I'm not a die-hard Apple person as you put it.  I've got all kinds of technology from various manufacturers, bought because it was the nicest looking and best performing of what was out at the time.  Just so happens that as a tablet, I find iPad more accessible and desirable than any Android tablet I've used.  As far as phones go, come contract renewal, I'll be considering Android because both products meet all of my requirements now.

I'm all for people having their own opinions and making their own choices based on them, but you're just talking smack. It's also a bit rich saying he's got more money than sense when you are buying a brand new GTD...  Puts things into perspective really.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 July 2013, 09:08
I could of course be a million miles wrong McMaddy, but do I just detect a subtle undertone that you don't like Apple products  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Thing is, some of us (like me), get issued an iPhone with work so have no real choice in the matter, so we just get on with it. TBH, I use my iPhone 4S for 3 things, making phone calls, checking my works email and to play music and it does those very well indeed. I don't play games or have a million apps, and so long as any phone does the above, I'm happy.

As for music in the car, well I have an iPod touch (yes I know another IOS device but it works well), a couple of 32gb SD cards loaded with music and a USB stick. Oh and my current RNS-510 has about 10gb on its hard drive as well, and ill make sure my most listened to music is loaded onto the HDD of the Discover Pro Nav when the car arrives, so I think whether you have an Android or iPhone, it doesn't really matter all that much as there are so many other ways to play music in the MK7 Golf.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 11:07
@gryzor how does me buying a new gtd make a difference? I don't like apple products full stop but that's only my personal opinion. price has got nothing to do with it at all and what the hell is an anti apple fanboy ffs! if you can't have your own opinion about something without being berated on here then what's the point?? it's what makes us individual with a mind of our own and not mindless sheep  :wink:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 July 2013, 11:32
@gryzor how does me buying a new gtd make a difference? I don't like apple products full stop but that's only my personal opinion. price has got nothing to do with it at all and what the hell is an anti apple fanboy ffs! if you can't have your own opinion about something without being berated on here then what's the point?? it's what makes us individual with a mind of our own and not mindless sheep  :wink:

So, price has nothing to do with it, at all?  You're seriously deluded.  You're the one who went on about having more money than sense, which like I said, is a bit rich coming from somebody buying a GTD when they could have had something very similar but much cheaper.  If you want it explaining, an anti-Apple fanboy is somebody who deliberately goes out of their way to hate their products for no reason other than they are a successful company with desirable products and a loyal following, which is fair enough.  If you don't want to get berated, don't come onto a forum and just spurt out mindless smack about iCrap this and Apple sh4t that.  There's nothing wrong at all with hanging an opinion, just the way you express it.

I've said enough anyway, taking this thread right off track.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 July 2013, 11:37
I REALLY hope our cars arrive soon as I think the wait is making us testy... :whistle:

Apple is more expensive and I do take this into account, but it is not vastly more if you get the right contract.  Apple is more stable I find, which I like but you don't get the same range of apps as you get with Android which to me is possibly a bigger deal.

I don't like the Apple attitude though (too controlling), and they rarely update their hardware.  Also they seem a bit arrogant.  Apply always makes a big deal about how intuitive it is and how simple and amazing and perfect.  I got an iPad which I'm using right now and have found it to be the exact opposite of that.  Infuriatingly awful in fact...

Pros and cons on each side.  But it's definitely not one thing that makes me choose and I use both systems daily.  Am also developing an app on Android which will be replicated for iPhones once done (if it actually sells)
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 11:47
@gryzor how does me buying a new gtd make a difference? I don't like apple products full stop but that's only my personal opinion. price has got nothing to do with it at all and what the hell is an anti apple fanboy ffs! if you can't have your own opinion about something without being berated on here then what's the point?? it's what makes us individual with a mind of our own and not mindless sheep  :wink:

So, price has nothing to do with it, at all?  You're seriously deluded.  You're the one who went on about having more money than sense, which like I said, is a bit rich coming from somebody buying a GTD when they could have had something very similar but much cheaper.  If you want it explaining, an anti-Apple fanboy is somebody who deliberately goes out of their way to hate their products for no reason other than they are a successful company with desirable products and a loyal following, which is fair enough.  If you don't want to get berated, don't come onto a forum and just spurt out mindless smack about iCrap this and Apple sh4t that.  There's nothing wrong at all with hanging an opinion, just the way you express it.

I've said enough anyway, taking this thread right off track.
could you not have bought something similar but didn't?? can't really see my choice of car has anything to do with it. by your pointless comments though you seen like an apple fanboy. that's your choice is just isn't mine. the only deluded one is you who quite clearly thinks that everything they say must be correct. I'll say it again price has nothing to with it!! I'll continue to say what I think about products I don't particularly rate but at the end of the day is only one opinion, my own which I'm entitled to. you have your own ideas and that's fine, good luck to you.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 11:52
anyway using an SD card instead of anything android or I is better anyway so it doesn't really matter  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Jimble on 13 July 2013, 11:58
anyway using an SD card instead of anything android or I is better anyway so it doesn't really matter  ;D ;D


This^ i like the fact that i can just plug a usb stick in and forget about it. 8)
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 July 2013, 11:59
could you not have bought something similar but didn't?? can't really see my choice of car has anything to do with it. by your pointless comments though you seen like an apple fanboy. that's your choice is just isn't mine. the only deluded one is you who quite clearly thinks that everything they say must be correct. I'll say it again price has nothing to with it!! I'll continue to say what I think about products I don't particularly rate but at the end of the day is only one opinion, my own which I'm entitled to. you have your own ideas and that's fine, good luck to you.

Like I said, I buy technology based on relative merits at the time, not necessarily brand.  Nor have I ever said that anything I say is correct and that what anybody else says is wrong.  But, going by your earlier responses on GTI vs GTD debates, you do seem to resort to the same monotonous type of response when somebody disagrees with you.  You can imply all you like from my posts, but at least I explain my reasons for being pro- or anti-something.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 July 2013, 12:30
Apple do seem to trade on their style far more than their function recently (their technological development does seem to have hit a brick wall in the last 18 months). They are definitely resting on their laurels right now.

There is one reason I strongly dislike Apple products - they only work well with other Apple products. I bought an Ipod years ago because it was the best portable music player out there. I don't think Apple are market leaders any more. Extracting your music or videos from Itunes to other (non-Apple) devices is far more protracted than it needs to be and Apple want far more control over my devices and media than I would like them to have.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 July 2013, 12:45
Apple do seem to trade on their style far more than their function recently (their technological development does seem to have hit a brick wall in the last 18 months). They are definitely resting on their laurels right now.

There is one reason I strongly dislike Apple products - they only work well with other Apple products. I bought an Ipod years ago because it was the best portable music player out there. I don't think Apple are market leaders any more. Extracting your music or videos from Itunes to other (non-Apple) devices is far more protracted than it needs to be and Apple want far more control over my devices and media than I would like them to have.

I completely agree with everything you said there, which is why I'll probably go android next for my mobile phone.  The fact that you can have expandable, accessible memory that is not locked to any given application is huge plus.  If I do go down that route, chances are I may take another look at android tablets next year, but the reality is, my iPad does everything I need of it so it would be change for changes sake, which is no bad thing!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 13:11
have you looked at the nexus 10? I don't dislike any tech gryzor I just hate the way apple do things. they look nice and both android and iPhone do pretty much the same thing so inevitably it's down to personal choice. I don't dislike the gti either and in all honesty I'll seriously be looking at it if I have the same problems I currently experience with my tiguan. everything's good and if it's pointed out to me I'm wrong for whatever reason I'll hold my hands up and apologise. still not buying an iPhone though haha :grin: :grin: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 July 2013, 13:19
have you looked at the nexus 10? I don't dislike any tech gryzor I just hate the way apple do things. they look nice and both android and iPhone do pretty much the same thing so inevitably it's down to personal choice. I don't dislike the gti either and in all honesty I'll seriously be looking at it if I have the same problems I currently experience with my tiguan. everything's good and if it's pointed out to me I'm wrong for whatever reason I'll hold my hands up and apologise. still not buying an iPhone though haha :grin: :grin: :tongue: :tongue:

Nope, not looked at the Nexus 10.  Is that native Android with no after-market skin over it?  I totally agree with you, Apple do lock you in and it alienates a lot of people.  It hasn't held me back at all yet though, which is why I'm happy to stick with it for now.  But, they're not the force they used to be.  I would never say you are wrong, or anybody else on this forum, unless I truly believed you were!  You sure I can't tempt you into buying my iPhone off me in the future?! :grin:

Anyways, I appreciate your level-headed reply, and I apologise for any of this getting personal :)
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 July 2013, 13:23
Have to agree with Monkeyhanger here, whilst work have given me a Iphone 3, 4 and now 4s (with rumours of a 5 coming my way soon), ive been using their products for a number of years now, and as i said before, as a phone, email client and music player they still do the job pretty well, but apart from the retina screen which appeared with the Iphone 4, nothing really significant has happened since (OK it's got faster and a better graphics chip, but these are more evolutionary than revolutionary), and IOS is looking decidedly old these days. It does indeed seem like with Steve Job's death that Apple have run into a technological dead end.

One of the reason my company (who purchase 3000 phones annually), continue (apparently) to use the Apple platform is a) the fantastic contract prices we get, and b) the ability of IOS to prohibit viruses (although I'm sure it's still possible). These things are reviewed each year and rumour has it we will be switching to Samsung in 2014-2015. TBH, it will be refreshing to use a new non Apple product for the first time in about 5 years, and I'm actually quite looking forward to it (providing it does my 3 main tasks - phone, email and music) as well or better than an Apple product.

And nice to see you two kiss and make up  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 July 2013, 13:40
I think we're so far off topic there is no hope of ever getting back!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 13 July 2013, 13:42
So we've all agreed that an iPhone is the best, right?!  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 July 2013, 13:44
I think we're so far off topic there is no hope of ever getting back!

I think the problem of album art has been resolved anyway, just leaves contacts now! :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 July 2013, 18:43
have you looked at the nexus 10? I don't dislike any tech gryzor I just hate the way apple do things. they look nice and both android and iPhone do pretty much the same thing so inevitably it's down to personal choice. I don't dislike the gti either and in all honesty I'll seriously be looking at it if I have the same problems I currently experience with my tiguan. everything's good and if it's pointed out to me I'm wrong for whatever reason I'll hold my hands up and apologise. still not buying an iPhone though haha :grin: :grin: :tongue: :tongue:

Nope, not looked at the Nexus 10.  Is that native Android with no after-market skin over it?  I totally agree with you, Apple do lock you in and it alienates a lot of people.  It hasn't held me back at all yet though, which is why I'm happy to stick with it for now.  But, they're not the force they used to be.  I would never say you are wrong, or anybody else on this forum, unless I truly believed you were!  You sure I can't tempt you into buying my iPhone off me in the future?! :grin:

Anyways, I appreciate your level-headed reply, and I apologise for any of this getting personal :)
nexus 10 is the google device with no bloatware of any sort on. do android phones in particular the galaxy s2 or 3 or 4 show contact info? I'm sure they are fully rsap compatible but not sure if that will mean the contact problem would work? no personal offence taken gryzor we're all good  :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: p3asa on 13 July 2013, 19:46
Has anyone got any proof / web sites that actually shows contact pictures being displayed on the head unit?
I could be wrong but I don't think it is in the RSAP / Bluetooth protocol to transfer these pictures.

I would imagine you could maybe upload them to the head unit via a file and they would be displayed that way but not by bluetooth alone.

As for Apple v Android. We are a very split family.
My wife, son and I have Android phones.
My 2 daughters have iphones.
My son has an Android tablet (asus transformer, won tablet of the year) and my 2 daughters have ipads.

I so wanted to prefer the Android tablet but must admit the iPad blows the Android out the water.
Just so quick, responsive and intuitive. I hate the way they like to control everything but have to admit they do build a fine product.

Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 13 July 2013, 20:39
Regarding contact photos

The manual says 'depending on phone'.

Get out clause if ever there was one.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 10:32
Is there any noticeable benefit using a Class 10 over a normal Class 4 SD card for music in the car?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 19 August 2013, 10:42
Get out clause if ever there was one.

To be fair to VW, they don't control the numerous phone hardware and OS variants out there, so a well justified get out clause!

Is there any noticeable benefit using a Class 10 over a normal Class 4 SD card for music in the car?

I can't say from experience in the Mk7, but in terms of everyday use on a computer, I can't say I've noticed any.  FWIW, I just bought a new 32GB SanDisk Ulltra SDHC, class 10, in readiness.  Cheap enough.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 10:44
Get out clause if ever there was one.

To be fair to VW, they don't control the numerous phone hardware and OS variants out there, so a well justified get out clause!

Is there any noticeable benefit using a Class 10 over a normal Class 4 SD card for music in the car?

I can't say from experience in the Mk7, but in terms of everyday use on a computer, I can't say I've noticed any.  FWIW, I just bought a new 32GB SanDisk Ulltra SDHC, class 10, in readiness.  Cheap enough.

This one?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007BJHEWK/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 August 2013, 10:55
I thought that typically the higher capacity cards were always a higher class anyway.

Its kind of like a guarantee, if you have class 10 then you know there will be no chopping or skipping on playback of audio or video.  Does anyone ever have issues with lower classes?  Who knows?

On the other hand why not just grab the best card possible.  Even £30 for a 32Gb class 10 is insignificant compared to the price of the car and the length of time, 3 to 10 years, that you'll be using that SD card for!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 11:01
I thought that typically the higher capacity cards were always a higher class anyway.

Its kind of like a guarantee, if you have class 10 then you know there will be no chopping or skipping on playback of audio or video.  Does anyone ever have issues with lower classes?  Who knows?

On the other hand why not just grab the best card possible.  Even £30 for a 32Gb class 10 is insignificant compared to the price of the car and the length of time, 3 to 10 years, that you'll be using that SD card for!

I think it's more the write speed of higher class cards so when taking high res photo's etc they are written to the card quicker. That's why I wasn't sure if class 10 has any benefit when used simply to store/read music.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 19 August 2013, 11:12
Get out clause if ever there was one.

To be fair to VW, they don't control the numerous phone hardware and OS variants out there, so a well justified get out clause!

Is there any noticeable benefit using a Class 10 over a normal Class 4 SD card for music in the car?

I can't say from experience in the Mk7, but in terms of everyday use on a computer, I can't say I've noticed any.  FWIW, I just bought a new 32GB SanDisk Ulltra SDHC, class 10, in readiness.  Cheap enough.

This one?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007BJHEWK/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

I don't know if class 10 has any benefit but that's the one I bought as well and it works brilliantly
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 19 August 2013, 11:14
This one?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007BJHEWK/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

I don't know if class 10 has any benefit but that's the one I bought as well and it works brilliantly

Yep, that's the same as I bought, paid about £16 delivered, and for what you get it's still cheap at twice that price!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 19 August 2013, 11:18
This one?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007BJHEWK/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

I don't know if class 10 has any benefit but that's the one I bought as well and it works brilliantly

Yep, that's the same as I bought, paid about £16 delivered, and for what you get it's still cheap at twice that price!

It holds a huge number of songs so is probably all you will need :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 11:57
Just got the Class 10 32GB Sandisk Ultra from Gizzmo Heaven for £15.53 using code Gizzmo5

http://www.gizzmoheaven.com/SanDisk-32GB-Ultra-Class-10-SDHC-Card-Memory-Card-30MB-s/s199918/c581/Product.html
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: dippy_x on 19 August 2013, 14:29
Just got the Class 10 32GB Sandisk Ultra from Gizzmo Heaven for £15.53 using code Gizzmo5

http://www.gizzmoheaven.com/SanDisk-32GB-Ultra-Class-10-SDHC-Card-Memory-Card-30MB-s/s199918/c581/Product.html

Nice find - I just nabbed one as well  :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 19 August 2013, 15:02
Nice find, thanks! Ordered one too!  :smiley:
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Post by: Gryzor on 19 August 2013, 15:06
Yeah it's a great buy, and great to see people making good use of that SD card slot! :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 19 August 2013, 15:11
Yeah it's a great buy, and great to see people making good use of that SD card slot! :grin:

Yeah but what do you do with the other SD slot? :huh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 15:12
Yeah it's a great buy, and great to see people making good use of that SD card slot! :grin:

Yeah but what do you do with the other SD slot? :huh:

You put maps in it when you've hacked your regular head unit into Nav. :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 19 August 2013, 15:26
So, to clarify, if I want the album art to show up when playing off the sd card I've got to use mp3 format?
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Post by: CraigW on 19 August 2013, 15:29
So, to clarify, if I want the album art to show up when playing off the sd card I've got to use mp3 format?

Yes that's right Mark
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Post by: matchboy on 19 August 2013, 15:36
So, to clarify, if I want the album art to show up when playing off the sd card I've got to use mp3 format?

Yes that's right Mark

Ta! This may take some time  :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mortimerchris on 19 August 2013, 15:41
Yeah it's a great buy, and great to see people making good use of that SD card slot! :grin:

Yeah but what do you do with the other SD slot? :huh:

You put maps in it when you've hacked your regular head unit into Nav. :grin:

Are you grinning because this is possible? If so where is the guide?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: AAddict on 19 August 2013, 16:05
Yeah it's a great buy, and great to see people making good use of that SD card slot! :grin:

Yeah but what do you do with the other SD slot? :huh:

You put maps in it when you've hacked your regular head unit into Nav. :grin:

Are you grinning because this is possible? If so where is the guide?

I'm waiting for someone much clever than me to work out if it's possible. I reckon it's juts software plus a GPS antenna, but that's only a hunch.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 19 August 2013, 18:14
Just got the Class 10 32GB Sandisk Ultra from Gizzmo Heaven for £15.53 using code Gizzmo5

http://www.gizzmoheaven.com/SanDisk-32GB-Ultra-Class-10-SDHC-Card-Memory-Card-30MB-s/s199918/c581/Product.html

Just gave you some heat on hotuk deals. Not the best SD card deal i've ever got (Sandisk extreme III XCSD 80mbps 64Gb for £25), but best I can see right now and more than enough for the car.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: AAddict on 22 August 2013, 12:55
All credit to EliteBajan for this:

This looks very promising, a gadget that lets you mirror whatever your smartphone is doing on the VW head unit. Endless possibilities, second video on this post:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=245312.msg2372832#msg2372832

Anyone read Korean?

http://indiwork.co.kr/cart/?doc=cart/item.php&it_id=1375695673

Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: EliteBajan on 22 August 2013, 21:49
All credit to EliteBajan for this:

This looks very promising, a gadget that lets you mirror whatever your smartphone is doing on the VW head unit. Endless possibilities, second video on this post:

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=245312.


Thanks for the props!!

It doesn't look like a cheap option though.


http://m.t3.com/news/kivic-one-brings-airplay-dlna-to-your-car
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Roonaldo on 27 August 2013, 17:49
New member, should be picking up my new GTI next week.

Was wondering how iTunes playlists were handled with the SD card, if at all?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 August 2013, 22:25
New member, should be picking up my new GTI next week.

Was wondering how iTunes playlists were handled with the SD card, if at all?

Hi, and welcome to the forums!

I don't honestly know - I've read around and can't see anything about supporting playlists from the SD card.  Maybe somebody here who owns one can test or confirm one way or the other? Failing that I'll have a test myself after I get my GTI on Sunday.  I don't have many playlists, but am I intrigued myself now as I'll be using an SD card for my music.

Clearly if you are streaming from your phone via a playlist, that will work just fine.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Roonaldo on 28 August 2013, 17:16
New member, should be picking up my new GTI next week.

Was wondering how iTunes playlists were handled with the SD card, if at all?

Hi, and welcome to the forums!

I don't honestly know - I've read around and can't see anything about supporting playlists from the SD card.  Maybe somebody here who owns one can test or confirm one way or the other? Failing that I'll have a test myself after I get my GTI on Sunday.  I don't have many playlists, but am I intrigued myself now as I'll be using an SD card for my music.

Clearly if you are streaming from your phone via a playlist, that will work just fine.

Thanks, if you don't mind checking, please let me know as would prefer to use SD card. Think my date will be 2 or 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Roonaldo on 01 September 2013, 17:10
New member, should be picking up my new GTI next week.

Was wondering how iTunes playlists were handled with the SD card, if at all?

Hi, and welcome to the forums!

I don't honestly know - I've read around and can't see anything about supporting playlists from the SD card.  Maybe somebody here who owns one can test or confirm one way or the other? Failing that I'll have a test myself after I get my GTI on Sunday.  I don't have many playlists, but am I intrigued myself now as I'll be using an SD card for my music.

Clearly if you are streaming from your phone via a playlist, that will work just fine.

Did you get your car? Bet you're loving it. Probably too busy, but any joy with checking this?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 13:17
Did you get your car? Bet you're loving it. Probably too busy, but any joy with checking this?

I did get my car, and yeah, loving every minute of it!  I saw the thread and remembered about the playlist thing so I've had a bit of a play about.  Basically, I use iTunes for one thing, and one thing only - to get my own music collection onto my iDevices.  So, I'm just going to assume that a playlist playing on your iPhone, streaming via Bluetooth will work just fine.  You can export playlists, but from what I read, the output will need tweaking.

However, I did manually create the simplest of playlists for use on an SD card as follows.
This worked absolutely fine.  All of my music is stored on my SD card in Artist/Album/Song format, but you may have your folders set up different so the paths you create inside the playlist would need to be altered to match.

I don't actually bother with playlists myself, but I know there is plenty of software out there that will create a standard .m3u playlist for you based on the songs that you want.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Roonaldo on 02 September 2013, 17:41
Did you get your car? Bet you're loving it. Probably too busy, but any joy with checking this?

I did get my car, and yeah, loving every minute of it!  I saw the thread and remembered about the playlist thing so I've had a bit of a play about.  Basically, I use iTunes for one thing, and one thing only - to get my own music collection onto my iDevices.  So, I'm just going to assume that a playlist playing on your iPhone, streaming via Bluetooth will work just fine.  You can export playlists, but from what I read, the output will need tweaking.

However, I did manually create the simplest of playlists for use on an SD card as follows.
  • Created a folder at the root of my SD card called #PlayLists so that it's at the top
  • Created a TestPlayList.m3u file inside that folder
  • Added a few entries in the format ..\artistfolder\albumfolder\songname.mp3
This worked absolutely fine.  All of my music is stored on my SD card in Artist/Album/Song format, but you may have your folders set up different so the paths you create inside the playlist would need to be altered to match.

I don't actually bother with playlists myself, but I know there is plenty of software out there that will create a standard .m3u playlist for you based on the songs that you want.

Thanks for checking.

I have my music organised same as yours, however I also use iTunes for my playlists aswell (as they can do smart playlists, which are really useful).

Have to test if iTunes playlists will work from SD card.

Should get mine next week hopefully..!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 18:25
Let us know how you get on Roonaldo.  I did a quick test export from iTunes but didn't check it worked as the .txt file was a format I wasn't familiar with.  At the end of the day, with bluetooth streaming, the fact that playlists work at all off SD card is a bonus really.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 September 2013, 19:26
do you know which bit rate the new unit can take? will it do vbr ? or is 192a better rate.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 19:48
do you know which bit rate the new unit can take? will it do vbr ? or is 192a better rate.

It supports all MP3 bit rates as far as I know, up to 320 and VBR.  In theory VBR gives you the most "efficient" file by giving you a higher bit rate in complex parts, and lower bit rates when there maybe isn't so much going on.  The average bit rate can therefore vary from track to track, but in reality I'm sure sounds just as good as 192kbps .

Maybe my hearing is not that great, but a while back I took a range of music styles on CD and created 64, 128, 196, 256, and 320 sample rates of each type.  I then played them all through a variety of speakers, and honestly, for me the cut-off point was just 128kbps.  After that I couldn't really appreciate any difference, so I stuck at 196kbps as a decent compromise on size vs quality.  At the end of the day, 320 is going to be better than 192, but it's whether or not you can tell/appreciate the difference.  I'm no audiophile though, but then again, no true audiophile would use a lossy compression anyway!

Let me know if you'd like me to actually test VBR to see if it plays.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 September 2013, 19:57
on the old rns510 it played vbr no bother but wouldn't show the track length whereas bit rates of anything other than vbr showed the track length no bother.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 20:07
on the old rns510 it played vbr no bother but wouldn't show the track length whereas bit rates of anything other than vbr showed the track length no bother.

Works fine mate, just tried it. Shows track length information etc.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 September 2013, 20:12
cheers gryzor. just ordered a white tax disc holder too :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 20:17
cheers gryzor. just ordered a white tax disc holder too :laugh:

Yeah I just saw,nice one!  It will look nice, but I just think white with white is a bit much.  The red will almost stand out less but also ties in the accents.  Splitting hairs though, both look waaaaaay better than dealer-fit rubbish!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 September 2013, 20:25
cheers gryzor. just ordered a white tax disc holder too :laugh:

Yeah I just saw,nice one!  It will look nice, but I just think white with white is a bit much.  The red will almost stand out less but also ties in the accents.  Splitting hairs though, both look waaaaaay better than dealer-fit rubbish!

 :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: MM087 on 02 September 2013, 20:50
Any Pics of the Album Art on Screen ?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 21:00
Any Pics of the Album Art on Screen ?

That'll have to wait for now unless somebody else wants to do the honours or find a photo somewhere - my laptop is all packed up now ready for tomorrow!

The album art isn't very big at all, maybe 3cm x 3cm on the standard media screen.  The artwork is on the right, with the artist, album and track information on the left.  Time remaining etc. is underneath all of this.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Jimble on 02 September 2013, 21:06
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pWyaHngaZRM (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pWyaHngaZRM)


 ;)
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 02 September 2013, 21:08
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/image-25.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/image-25.jpg.html)

(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/image-27.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/image-27.jpg.html)
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Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 21:23
Good work guys! ;)
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: MM087 on 02 September 2013, 21:25
Excellent

Is that on the Pro / Normal Nav screen ?
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Post by: CraigW on 02 September 2013, 21:27
Excellent

Is that on the Pro / Normal Nav screen ?

That's on the pro, I'm not sure how the standard system compares
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 21:59
Looks very similar on the standard screen too, though I haven't pressed the album art cover to see if it has cover flow...not that I'd use it anyway as I never use it on my iPhone!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 02 September 2013, 22:25
Looks very similar on the standard screen too, though I haven't pressed the album art cover to see if it has cover flow...not that I'd use it anyway as I never use it on my iPhone!

I don't use the cover flow that often but it just looks so :cool: seeing all the album artwork on the large screen
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 September 2013, 22:41
Looks very similar on the standard screen too, though I haven't pressed the album art cover to see if it has cover flow...not that I'd use it anyway as I never use it on my iPhone!

I don't use the cover flow that often but it just looks so :cool: seeing all the album artwork on the large screen

Definitely looks cool, great to show friends, but despite the huge amount of music on my SD card, I really only listen to a handful of albums and have the same on repeat for days on end!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 02 September 2013, 22:44
One of the first albums/songs I loaded on to my SD card was Frank Sinatra - I did it my way, just so I could play it as I was driving out the dealership  :grin: :grin:

And I'm not kidding
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: theflash on 02 September 2013, 22:50
One of the first albums/songs I loaded on to my SD card was Frank Sinatra - I did it my way, just so I could play it as I was driving out the dealership  :grin: :grin:

And I'm not kidding

10/10 for cheese factor. I have a while to plan my " first dance " tune. Might do a mix specially for the pick up  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: MM087 on 02 September 2013, 22:57
Labrinth - Earthquake :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: theflash on 02 September 2013, 23:09
Labrinth - Earthquake :smiley:

Yeah, I'm a bit more.... Adam F - Circles.
tbf, it's a generation thing  :wink:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 02 September 2013, 23:21
One of the first albums/songs I loaded on to my SD card was Frank Sinatra - I did it my way, just so I could play it as I was driving out the dealership  :grin: :grin:

And I'm not kidding

 :grin: Brillant!!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Gryzor on 03 September 2013, 07:38
Haha!  I drove out of the dealership in silence so I could hear the purr of the engine and the exhaust notes ( and the tyres screech as I laid a line of rubber as a big FU to VW  :grin:

First track I listened to was Axis by Pet Shop Boys.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2013, 11:40
Sorry to resurrect this thread - but I need some help! So I've got this courtesy Golf and thought I'd try out the SD card bit to see if I can get the artwork appearing on the screen. So I created some folders on the card and then just dragged the songs from iTunes into these folders. They all play fine in the car, but no artwork. Now I think they are in mpa4 format (????) - so my question is how do I get the pictures to come up??

Any help, in basic plain English, would be most appreciated!! I've read through this thread but there's so much jargon I haven't got a scooby!

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: dippy_x on 08 September 2013, 11:47
I think the tracks need to have the artwork embedded in them - do you know if they do?  Think there is a link to a tool in this thread where you can add the artwork to the track.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2013, 11:51
I think the tracks need to have the artwork embedded in them - do you know if they do?  Think there is a link to a tool in this thread where you can add the artwork to the track.

I've no idea, if they've been bought through iTunes then they should have - shouldn't they??
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 08 September 2013, 11:55
Sorry to resurrect this thread - but I need some help! So I've got this courtesy Golf and thought I'd try out the SD card bit to see if I can get the artwork appearing on the screen. So I created some folders on the card and then just dragged the songs from iTunes into these folders. They all play fine in the car, but no artwork. Now I think they are in mpa4 format (????) - so my question is how do I get the pictures to come up??

Any help, in basic plain English, would be most appreciated!! I've read through this thread but there's so much jargon I haven't got a scooby!

Thanks in advance!

Hi Mark,

I downloaded a music converter application which was free. I then dragged my iTunes songs over to the converter to automayically change them to mp3 format. I then had to find pictures of the album covers on google and copy and paste them into the converter (there was a box for each song on the converter for album artwork). This worked fine but it was time consuming and there must have been a quicker way
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2013, 12:20
Sorry to resurrect this thread - but I need some help! So I've got this courtesy Golf and thought I'd try out the SD card bit to see if I can get the artwork appearing on the screen. So I created some folders on the card and then just dragged the songs from iTunes into these folders. They all play fine in the car, but no artwork. Now I think they are in mpa4 format (????) - so my question is how do I get the pictures to come up??

Any help, in basic plain English, would be most appreciated!! I've read through this thread but there's so much jargon I haven't got a scooby!

Thanks in advance!

Hi Mark,

I downloaded a music converter application which was free. I then dragged my iTunes songs over to the converter to automayically change them to mp3 format. I then had to find pictures of the album covers on google and copy and paste them into the converter (there was a box for each song on the converter for album artwork). This worked fine but it was time consuming and there must have been a quicker way

Thanks Crag, I might try that. I tried doing what the link to the YouTube video about the A1 artwork - and it didn't work! Why these things just don't work straight away I don't know but at least I have a project to keep me busy until my car turns up  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 08 September 2013, 12:23
Sorry to resurrect this thread - but I need some help! So I've got this courtesy Golf and thought I'd try out the SD card bit to see if I can get the artwork appearing on the screen. So I created some folders on the card and then just dragged the songs from iTunes into these folders. They all play fine in the car, but no artwork. Now I think they are in mpa4 format (????) - so my question is how do I get the pictures to come up??

Any help, in basic plain English, would be most appreciated!! I've read through this thread but there's so much jargon I haven't got a scooby!

Thanks in advance!

Hi Mark,

I downloaded a music converter application which was free. I then dragged my iTunes songs over to the converter to automayically change them to mp3 format. I then had to find pictures of the album covers on google and copy and paste them into the converter (there was a box for each song on the converter for album artwork). This worked fine but it was time consuming and there must have been a quicker way

Thanks Crag, I might try that. I tried doing what the link to the YouTube video about the A1 artwork - and it didn't work! Why these things just don't work straight away I don't know but at least I have a project to keep me busy until my car turns up  :grin:

No probs Mark. For some reason I couldn't get the album artwork to copy accross from iTunes so had to scroll through images on the Internet. It definitely keeps you occupied whilst waiting  :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2013, 13:03
Thanks Craig, that works a treat! Will certainly keep me busy as its quick for songs off the same album but will take an age for individual tunes - oh well, better it works than not! Interestingly though, I tried a song direct from iTunes (m4a) and the same somg converted to mp3 and the m4a one displayed the artwork - so no need to convert?!?? Bizarre!!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2013, 20:33
Ok, thanks to Craig and you other helpful chaps I've figured out this sd malarkey, for iTunes users. Basically you need to get the artwork from amazon and save the pic. Then copy the jpeg from where youve saved it, go to iTunes, right click on the song(s) and select 'get info,' then paste the jpeg into the box for artwork.

Once done (very time consuming) just drag the songs onto the sd card.

Best bit is: no need to convert to mp3 - I've tested it and works a treat! Looks very  :cool:

Thanks chaps!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 08 September 2013, 20:49
Ok, thanks to Craig and you other helpful chaps I've figured out this sd malarkey, for iTunes users. Basically you need to get the artwork from amazon and save the pic. Then copy the jpeg from where youve saved it, go to iTunes, right click on the song(s) and select 'get info,' then paste the jpeg into the box for artwork.

Once done (very time consuming) just drag the songs onto the sd card.

Best bit is: no need to convert to mp3x :smiley: - I've tested it and works a treat! Looks very  :cool:

Thanks chaps!

Excellent Mark! Glad you got it to work. It will provide you with hours of entertainment to help pass the time :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2013, 21:13
Yep, and even though its time consuming its all about the end game so it's worth it!!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 September 2013, 21:33
I cannot for the life of me find my recently received Sandisk Ultra 32Gb card. I opened up the pack and then put it somewhere safe.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 September 2013, 22:21
I cannot for the life of me find my recently received Sandisk Ultra 32Gb card. I opened up the pack and then put it somewhere safe.  :undecided:
sh!t.  I'm always putting things somewhere "safe" only to forget where.  Usually I then have to turn the house upside down to find the thing I've lost thereby losing everything else in the process.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 08 September 2013, 22:39
I cannot for the life of me find my recently received Sandisk Ultra 32Gb card. I opened up the pack and then put it somewhere safe.  :undecided:

 :grin: I had this exact same problem earlier! The wife had "tidied up"  :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 September 2013, 07:50
I cannot for the life of me find my recently received Sandisk Ultra 32Gb card. I opened up the pack and then put it somewhere safe.  :undecided:

 :grin: I had this exact same problem earlier! The wife had "tidied up"  :rolleyes: :laugh:

I'll order a new one and then find it.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 September 2013, 09:21
New one ordered, I will find the other one tonight no doubt.
  :rolleyes:
Gizmo Heaven: 32Gb, Class 10 SDHC Sandisk Ultra. £15.15 with the discount code “G5” which is supposed to only work with Kingston products, but seems to work with everything (all brands of SD cards at least).
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 09 September 2013, 09:41
New one ordered, I will find the other one tonight no doubt.
  :rolleyes:
Gizmo Heaven: 32Gb, Class 10 SDHC Sandisk Ultra. £15.15 with the discount code “G5” which is supposed to only work with Kingston products, but seems to work with everything (all brands of SD cards at least).

You'll go to put the new one in your laptop and find that that's where you left the old one  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mjh_056 on 22 September 2013, 13:15
Do try to keep track of current posts and replies so apologies if mentioned already.

Have a huge stockpile of Apple goods it seems even after selling a few on, and amongst them are a standard 3rd Gen Ipod and Ipod Touch of which I just updated to my full music library.

Now I have already prepared my SD card but have no idea if it will work with all covers till get my GTD next month but could I just not permanently connect one of these IPods and get the full experience? or does it have to be a more up to date Ipod on a newer IOS?

Also if I was to Bluetooth my Iphone would there be any conflict having the Ipod permanently connected?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 22 September 2013, 16:27
If my iphone is connected via the lead it does not show the artwork. That only happens via the sd card after some tinkering. As for if you have the iPod connected and your phone on Bluetooth you will be able to switch between the two, they don't cancel each other out for example.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 22 September 2013, 17:30
If my iphone is connected via the lead it does not show the artwork. That only happens via the sd card after some tinkering. As for if you have the iPod connected and your phone on Bluetooth you will be able to switch between the two, they don't cancel each other out for example.

Strange Mark. I'm pretty sure when I tried connecting my iphone via the lead that it did display the artwork. Ill double check
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 22 September 2013, 17:35
If my iphone is connected via the lead it does not show the artwork. That only happens via the sd card after some tinkering. As for if you have the iPod connected and your phone on Bluetooth you will be able to switch between the two, they don't cancel each other out for example.

Strange Mark. I'm pretty sure when I tried connecting my iphone via the lead that it did display the artwork. Ill double check

Did it?! I will double check mine too as that would be good if it did!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 22 September 2013, 18:31
I've double checked by plugging my iPhone into the cable and I don't get any artwork. It's a 5 with iOS 7, don't know if that makes any difference?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 22 September 2013, 18:58
I've double checked by plugging my iPhone into the cable and I don't get any artwork. It's a 5 with iOS 7, don't know if that makes any difference?

Just checked again. There is definitely some artwork appearing when I connect via the lead but there are inconsistencies. I'm using an iPhone 4 with ios7.

I thought at first it was perhaps just showing the artwork that was preloaded onto the sd card when I played one of the songs it recognised but then I tried a few other albums on the phone that weren't on the card and it was showing the artwork.

However there were other songs where it was showing nothing and even some songs when they were playing were showing the details of the song previously played. A bit confused
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 22 September 2013, 19:04
There's definitely a delay between the song it's playing and the writing on the screen if you skip forward, I noticed that too.  No delay from sd card.

I tried songs bought from iTunes and songs put on from cd into iTunes and neither worked. Maybe it only shows artwork from non iTunes stuff ie. tracks bought from amazon for example? I am also confused!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 22 September 2013, 19:28
There's definitely a delay between the song it's playing and the writing on the screen if you skip forward, I noticed that too.  No delay from sd card.

I tried songs bought from iTunes and songs put on from cd into iTunes and neither worked. Maybe it only shows artwork from non iTunes stuff ie. tracks bought from amazon for example? I am also confused!  :laugh:

All my songs have been bought from iTunes so I don't think it can be that. I would doubt its something to do with standard media unit and pro but you never know
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 22 September 2013, 19:36
Maybe you get it cause you have the Pro? I only have the standard Nav.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 22 September 2013, 19:43
Maybe you get it cause you have the Pro? I only have the standard Nav.

I don't think it would be that Mark neither do I think it would be anything to do with the different phones we have. This one might have to remain a mystery  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mjh_056 on 22 September 2013, 19:46
I converted my whole ITunes collection to SD card and ensured all had covers as did so and this card includes DAB icons also (as think from what understand that will need to upload some) and have 2 fully loaded I Pod can use so it seems it will be a case of try it and see - You would think this is something that would be more universal as imagine most here are quite good with this sort of thing and yet still struggle to understand and overcome some of the inconsistencies, so imagine how the less technical would cope?

Will let you know how get on
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Aidey on 05 October 2013, 10:25
tomorrow im going to put some music onto my sd card, am i right in thinking this is the way to do it?

Create folders on the card named after the albums e.g.:Foo Fighters. Then drag and drop the music from my itunes into these folders, will this work then on the gti?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: dippy_x on 05 October 2013, 11:35
I don't think iTunes embedds the images into the MP3 tracks so you will not have pictures unless you use one of  the tools in this thread to embeds them.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Aidey on 05 October 2013, 11:37
Ok thanks so i will also have to add jpg to the folder's , nice one
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: lawrie on 05 October 2013, 16:28
Adding jpg's to the folders will not help.

Depending on how you got your music, iTunes has some mp3's with embedded images and some that has the image stored in a folder.

When you copy your iTunes music to a sd disk or phone the discover pro only recognises embedded images (preferably less than 500x500)

A google search will show there are various ways to embed images for free

This costs £20 (http://This costs £20)

I bought it and it sorted my music collection (no link to firm:)



Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Aidey on 05 October 2013, 16:30
Ahh right, ok thanks mate, i'll have to trial and error it all once the car arrives
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 06 October 2013, 14:56
Got my 'Red Collar' lead from Amazon - I can confirm that the artwork now appears straight from the iPhone woo hoo!
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JohnP on 06 October 2013, 16:00
Got my 'Red Collar' lead from Amazon - I can confirm that the artwork now appears straight from the iPhone woo hoo!

Oh that's brilliant. I think I'll go that way rather than messing about with an SD card. Thanks for the info :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 06 October 2013, 18:33
Got my 'Red Collar' lead from Amazon - I can confirm that the artwork now appears straight from the iPhone woo hoo!

Can you post a link to the item on Amazon please, Matchboy ? I have had a quick look and cannot see a red collared one. I did specify to the dealer that I wanted a red collared one, but he said there was only one sort and I got a blue collared one. Yes, he probably couldn't be arsed but if I can pick one up cheaply on Amazon, it's probably easier ...
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JohnP on 06 October 2013, 19:06
Don't know if this is the same as the one Matchboy got but I found this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK7-Golf-MDI-Ipod-Cable-Lead-Red-Collar-Genuine-VW-Part-000051446M-/261297391723
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 06 October 2013, 19:10
Don't know if this is the same as the one Matchboy got but I found this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK7-Golf-MDI-Ipod-Cable-Lead-Red-Collar-Genuine-VW-Part-000051446M-/261297391723

Its the exact same part number as the one I was given  :smiley:

Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 October 2013, 19:26
why are people buying these? your supplying dealer should be providing these with the car and if they aren't just ask them to.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 06 October 2013, 19:28
why are people buying these? your supplying dealer should be providing these with the car and if they aren't just ask them to.

Perhaps they are only providing them to customers who have specced the pro?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 October 2013, 19:31
sounds like they aren't providing them at all. the new red lead supersedes the blue one so they should be supplying the red one. surely not all VW garages are useless?  :wink:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 06 October 2013, 19:32
sounds like they aren't providing them at all. the new red lead supersedes the blue one so they should be supplying the red one. surely not all VW garages are useless?  :wink:

I got given both  :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 06 October 2013, 19:52
Depends on the dealer. If you haven't specced the Pro they're only obligated to give you the blue lead. If they're bothered about customer service then they'll give it to you if you ask. If they don't give a f7ck like mine, then you'll have to buy one  :laugh:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CDMZLZC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: George k on 06 October 2013, 21:25
The dealer does not supply lead, it comes in the car from the factory
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Sootchucker on 06 October 2013, 21:56
I got both in mine blue and red (and a USB lead), all still sealed in their respective plastic bags in the glovebox. Methinks someone at VW like me  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 06 October 2013, 23:21
Can I have your red one then ?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 October 2013, 08:13
George how many cables are supplied from the factory? just the wrong blue one or blue one and USB?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 11 October 2013, 19:22
Just got my red one from Amazon today from the link posted on page 18. As discussed it works properly and shows the cover art.

I did ask the salesman about them letting me have one when he called on Monday to check everything was ok with the car after i collected on Friday. He called me yesterday and left a message saying:

"that he had checked with parts and they knew about it and i was correct in that the red collar one would show cover art and possibly also play mp4 videos. The lead comes in the car from the factory and the dealer can't control if it is red or blue. If i want one it will be about £26-ish. However parts are unable to obtain one at the moment because the part number is not available for ordering."     Go figure.

Oh how I wanted to ring them when i got home tonight and say "well the guy on Amazon must have them all then ...".

NB also discovered tonight that you can change track forwards and backwards by swiping across the screen over the track info and covert art. That's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: George k on 11 October 2013, 19:47
George how many cables are supplied from the factory? just the wrong blue one or blue one and USB?


Just the blue one
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Aidey on 11 October 2013, 19:50
i should keep my usb cable from my mk6 then?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: SF-GTD on 11 October 2013, 21:16
I collected my GTD on Wednesday and spoke to the salesman about the iPod cable.  He said that the blue cable was coming through with cars as standard, but the Pro Nav cars were arriving with red and blue cables.  I asked if he would swap my blue one for the red and he did that no problem.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 11 October 2013, 21:28
I collected my GTD on Wednesday and spoke to the salesman about the iPod cable.  He said that the blue cable was coming through with cars as standard, but the Pro Nav cars were arriving with red and blue cables.  I asked if he would swap my blue one for the red and he did that no problem.

That sounds about right  :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: SF-GTD on 11 October 2013, 22:07
I should mention that I have attached the red lead to my iPhone 5 using the Apple lightning adapter and it works perfectly.  I can play my music and podcasts through the stereo complete with artwork.  I can't play any videos though, but I believe that's a limitation of the Apple connector that causes that.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: MM087 on 12 October 2013, 00:46
Does the Artwork show on Screen or do you need the Pro Nav for this ?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 12 October 2013, 05:36
Does the Artwork show on Screen or do you need the Pro Nav for this ?
You don't need Nav or Nav Pro. It shows the cover art on the main infotainment screen along with track, album and artist names on the standard Composition Media system as well as on the Discover Nav and Discover Nav Pro systems. This is with a red collared cable and an iphone or ipod. It does not show cover art through a blue collared lead, nor through bluetooth connection to an iphone. It will show cover art from mp3 files on an SD card as long as the cover art has been embedded at the right size in the mp3 file - read earlier parts of this topic for the details on that.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 October 2013, 08:17
I collected my GTD on Wednesday and spoke to the salesman about the iPod cable.  He said that the blue cable was coming through with cars as standard, but the Pro Nav cars were arriving with red and blue cables.  I asked if he would swap my blue one for the red and he did that no problem.
must be certain garages then because mine only came with the blue one and I've got nav pro. got one no problem from the salesman but he wants the blue one back.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: SF-GTD on 12 October 2013, 08:49
I tried my partner's iPhone 4S with the red cable and it works fine, but a pretty old iPod Nano didn't work at all.  The media system said it was connecting the device and then nothing happened.  I take it the red cable is only good for Apple devices after a certain point in time?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: matchboy on 12 October 2013, 10:27
I tried my partner's iPhone 4S with the red cable and it works fine, but a pretty old iPod Nano didn't work at all.  The media system said it was connecting the device and then nothing happened.  I take it the red cable is only good for Apple devices after a certain point in time?

Keep trying with the nano. Sometimes my phone says device not compatible but either reconnecting it or just leaving it a few mins makes it work. I find the lead temperamental but when it works it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 12 October 2013, 11:15
I tried my partner's iPhone 4S with the red cable and it works fine, but a pretty old iPod Nano didn't work at all.  The media system said it was connecting the device and then nothing happened.  I take it the red cable is only good for Apple devices after a certain point in time?
I am using a 5th generation (Sept 2009-Sept 2010) ipod Nano that my wife had before her iphone came along. That works fine in the Golf but I don't know about anything earlier in the Nano series. We have an even older ipod Classic 4th gen (2005) in our XC90 so I will try that one later and report.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Aidey on 12 October 2013, 21:21
I cant get artwork to work at all with my sd card :embarrassed:

Im using a mac and finding software is hard to come by, the radio logo's worked a treat.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: dippy_x on 12 October 2013, 23:10
On an SD card all of the individual mp3 files need to have the images embedded in them, a max size of 400 x 400.  Images will not show if they are seperate files to the mp3's.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: SF-GTD on 13 October 2013, 09:14
I cant get artwork to work at all with my sd card :embarrassed:

Im using a mac and finding software is hard to come by, the radio logo's worked a treat.

I take it your music is all in iTunes?  If so there's a script for embedding artwork on a Mac here:

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=embedart (http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=embedart)
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: JohnP on 13 October 2013, 09:53
I've got my iPhone connected with a red lead and my videos display on the media unit. Very cool :cool:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Aidey on 13 October 2013, 11:56
I give up lol, does not want to work for me, All the music is there on the card, Each track has the album art showing on the screen of my mac, but when you insert in  the car no artwork...so annoying, going to go drive the car instead
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Aidey on 13 October 2013, 14:04
No i dont give up lol...... i tried the dougscripts one again and got it working in iTunes, and finally i have artwork...cheers guys :nerd:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: SF-GTD on 13 October 2013, 17:49
No i dont give up lol...... i tried the dougscripts one again and got it working in iTunes, and finally i have artwork...cheers guys :nerd:

Nice one  :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 13 October 2013, 18:04
I tried my partner's iPhone 4S with the red cable and it works fine, but a pretty old iPod Nano didn't work at all.  The media system said it was connecting the device and then nothing happened.  I take it the red cable is only good for Apple devices after a certain point in time?
I am using a 5th generation (Sept 2009-Sept 2010) ipod Nano that my wife had before her iphone came along. That works fine in the Golf but I don't know about anything earlier in the Nano series. We have an even older ipod Classic 4th gen (2005) in our XC90 so I will try that one later and report.

The ipod Classic 4th Gen from 2005 will NOT work in the Golf. It comes up as "trying to connect" and then "Device not supported"

I have tried music videos, TV programmes and films also with the iPod Nano that does work:

1. Videos categorised as "Music Video" in iTunes show up in the menu and play properly on the Composition Media screen
2. TV Programmes categorised as TV Programmes in iTunes show up in the menu and play properly on the Composition Media screen
3. Films categorised as Films in iTunes show up in the menu and play properly on the Composition Media screen

So all types of videos seem to work through the Composition Media system when used with the red collared lead. The only problem I had was with some of the videos I tried to load to the ipod, iTunes would not load them as they would not play on the small iPod Nano screen - must be too large a resolution. If I can be bothered I might try connecting the iPhone or iPad and see if any of the higher resolution films on there will work with the screen in the Golf. Yes, too many iDevices in my house, I know ...

Its all pretty cool really, but we should remember that having a video of any sort playing while driving along will most likely bring the Front Assist, Automatic Braking and then the body shop into play ... so I've now deleted them all again.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: p3asa on 16 October 2013, 02:11
If its anything like the Audi which I imagine it is, the blue collared lead will play your older ipods.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: CraigW on 16 October 2013, 07:38
I tried my partner's iPhone 4S with the red cable and it works fine, but a pretty old iPod Nano didn't work at all.  The media system said it was connecting the device and then nothing happened.  I take it the red cable is only good for Apple devices after a certain point in time?
I am using a 5th generation (Sept 2009-Sept 2010) ipod Nano that my wife had before her iphone came along. That works fine in the Golf but I don't know about anything earlier in the Nano series. We have an even older ipod Classic 4th gen (2005) in our XC90 so I will try that one later and report.



Its all pretty cool really, but we should remember that having a video of any sort playing while driving along will most likely bring the Front Assist, Automatic Braking and then the body shop into play ... so I've now deleted them all again.

Not a problem as the car won't allow you to play videos on the move
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: pauliem on 16 October 2013, 08:34
I am still surprised that VW/Audi have not come out with a new cable that supports the lightning connector, I hate having to use that 30-pin adapter, it just looks crap.

The iPhone 5 has been out ages (I have a 5S) and as they supply iPod cables with the car anyway you would have thought they would update it.

It would actually be better if they didn't supply a cable at all and gave you a choice of cable depending on what device you have.  It is not like iPhone is the only phone people have.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Sootchucker on 16 October 2013, 08:56
New MDI cable that support Iphone 5, 5S and 5C due out later this year. Part of the late year cycle upgrades - Source - Motor-talk.de
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: dippy_x on 16 October 2013, 09:04
Yep - part of the BW45 changes I believe...
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 October 2013, 18:34
Got the red lead today, works a treat with album art.
Thanks for the info guys.
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: pauliem on 22 October 2013, 19:50
Where did you buy it from?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 October 2013, 21:24
Look on page 18. Thanks Matchboy.

Genuine VW part cheaper than the dealer, fast delivery too.
Don't you just love this forum..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CDMZLZC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Buddy on 23 October 2013, 17:29
FYI found it for the same price and without the £4 delivery charge here

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261297391723

Will be using it with ligtning adaptor and iPhone 5 so will see if I get full functionality including video playback and let y'all know
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 24 October 2013, 21:46
anybody find out if the red collar cable allows video playback on the basic headunits?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 24 October 2013, 23:25
anybody find out if the red collar cable allows video playback on the basic headunits?

Yes it does - see my post #200 on the previous page
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: GTI_Redpath on 25 October 2013, 00:07
Ahh didn't see that thanks
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: 2014GTi on 25 October 2013, 00:11
Just to clarify, So iTunes videos playback on the standard CMS too? Or is video playback only possible on the Discovery Nav or Nav Pro?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: allycat45 on 25 October 2013, 07:58
Sorry, my error in the name of the system. I only have the standard fit audio system - Composition Media System (CMS). My posts above do talk about the Discover system which is the Navigation system. I will edit them to correct that.

The CMS does show videos on the main screen with the red collared lead as I described above (now edited to say Composition).

Sorry for the confusion ...  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: 2014GTi on 25 October 2013, 08:12
Sorry, my error in the name of the system. I only have the standard fit audio system - Composition Media System (CMS). My posts above do talk about the Discover system which is the Navigation system. I will edit them to correct that.

The CMS does show videos on the main screen with the red collared lead as I described above (now edited to say Composition).

Sorry for the confusion ...  :embarrassed:

It's ok and thanks for confirming, this is good news and another feature I didn't know about.
Just got to hope my Golf comes with wired iPod functionality (MDI) :(
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Chief1337 on 14 November 2013, 22:03
Is there any different between the standard discover media unit and the 'Nav Pro' in terms of the size of album arts/logos supported? I.e. is the Nav Pro a higher resolution unit?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Chief1337 on 19 November 2013, 09:05
Dealer is adamant that there is no 'red' collar lead - he's checked three cars with the Nav Pro unit and they all have a blue collar?

Anyone have a part number?

What's the main difference? The blue allow 'audio' and the red allows 'audio' and 'video'?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: dengiehammer on 19 November 2013, 12:50
My dealer has just emailed me, and has told me the red collared lead only works with the Discovery Nav pro and as I only have the standard system in my Golf, the blue will do the job. Can I just clarify the red collar does play video through the standard unit?
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: dengiehammer on 20 November 2013, 14:07
My dealer has just emailed me, and has told me the red collared lead only works with the Discovery Nav pro and as I only have the standard system in my Golf, the blue will do the job. Can I just clarify the red collar does play video through the standard unit?

Can anyone confirm this for me, before I talk to dealer

Thanks
Title: Re: Discover media - contacts photos and music album art?
Post by: Chief1337 on 20 November 2013, 18:44
My dealer is completely unaware of any 'red' collar cables and has said all their Nav Pro cars have the Blue ones.

A part number would be greatly appreciated!