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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: mattyninegrand on 12 August 2005, 13:50
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Hi
Can some once and for all clear up a query I have had for a while please.
When I took the rocker cover of my engine the second clamp in from the right holding the camshaft down is missing, I went on ebay and there were heads for sale which had the same clamp missing so I thought this was standard but couldn't work out why it wouldn't be on there. I bought a haynes manual and that showed the clamp on there so I rang VW and someone from the service department said it should be on there and mine snapped of at some time in it's life. I managed to find a head on ebay that has got the clamp on so I bought it. I just been to a scrappy and looked at 3 golfs and they have all got the same clamp missing like mine, second in from the right (flywheel end).
I'm confused, Is it suppose to be there or not?
Regards
M9G
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Was missing on my 1.6 Driver and pretty much every 8v engine I've seen has it missing. My Driver didn't blow up so it don't worry about it :)
VW are the last people you ask for advice, most of em are complete muppets :grin:
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Mines missing....
I brought a New PB 8v head and it was missing on that too..
Just brought a Mk3 2L 8v engine and its missing on that also.
hope this helps.
Knobby!
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yep mines not there either
dont worry about it lol
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But is it suppose to be there, was it there when new?
If they are suppose to be there, where have they all gone? has every golf had it's rocker cover taken off and then bit removed from rattling around in the head.
Regards
M9G
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No idea why it's missing but I seriously doubt so many cars would be without one if it was fitted from the factory! One of the great VW mysteries :grin:
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No idea why it's missing but I seriously doubt so many cars would be without one if it was fitted from the factory! One of the great VW mysteries :grin:
The replacement one I have coming has it on and the haynes manual shows one and I can't really see why VW would perposly miss it out. There doesn't seem to be any obvious reason for leaving it off.
M9G
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Mines not there either. The theory me and my mechanic friends came up with is they designed the casting to have one there if required. but in the final design, never used it. Who knows? find a VW engine design engineer and ask him!
:undecided:
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So is there anyone out there who actually knows whether this should be there, or not?
Regards
M9G
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It shouldn't be there. We don't know why, but it really isn't a problem. Look at all the replies, and not one person has had their engine blow up, and neither has yours :)
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I just got a spare clamp from a scrappy and fitted it..
Got an extra 100BHP.... :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh:
JOKE!
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Took my camshaft off yesterday in preparation for renewing the valve stem seals and also noticed lack of clamp at position 4. According to the Bentley manual, petrol engines (at least American spec gasoline ones) didn't come with one. There are not any holes to screw studs into on my head and it looks like there is an oil jet fitted in place of the feed for the journal bearing which probably sprays oil all over the place. May be blocking the jet off would stop my engine smoking, probably easier than changing seals :wink:
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I had another head come today which has got the 4th clamp, strange!!!!!!!
M9G
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i can't remember why but its not meant to be there. i asked this and there is a reason. i'll ask the guy when he gets back from holiday! i think mk28vpb91 has got it about right though.
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my mate bought a new engine coz that was missing. wat a fikko :grin:
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So is there anyone out there who actually knows whether this should be there, or not?
Regards
M9G
I've been working on VWs since 84 and I can assure you have nothing to worry about ( IT'S A FEATURE OF THE MODEL SIR" :wink: ) , Oh and by the way the answers ' NOT' :smiley:
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So is there anyone out there who actually knows whether this should be there, or not?
Regards
M9G
I've been working on VWs since 84 and I can assure you have nothing to worry about ( IT'S A FEATURE OF THE MODEL SIR" :wink: ) , Oh and by the way the answers ' NOT' :smiley:
Well I'll throw a spanner in the works then.......
I, like someone else on here bought another head, through my experience with engines have never come across a car with one missing and couldn't understand why the need to remove it so thought maybe broken off at sometime and removed.
The replacement head HAS got the 4th bracket on which I am happier to fit than one without.
Something I did notice was the head with the 4th clamp had germany stamped on the front which I understand is the better quality head than the Brazilian made one (only what I am hearing), I wonder if it's the German made ones that have the 4th bracket.
Some of you are saying it's ment NOT to be there so how have I got one with it then?
M9G
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Sorry but one thing that may make a difference is wether it is a ' hydraulic ' or ' shim ' tappet head as from what I recall ( a lot if not all ) hydraulic heads did have the 4th cap missing .Never knew the reason but also never had any problems with any of the VWs or AUDIs that had this " PHENOMENON ". :smiley:
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oh well i don't care, my cars fine without it!
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oh well i don't care, my cars fine without it!
Might be fine, but not as fine as mine with it.
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Put it this way, a large number of VW engines have this missing, and do MK2 Golfs have a reputation for engine trouble? No. Your car has had it missing since it left the factory, has it blown up yet? No. :)
Doesn't make a difference if its there or not, plenty of VWs have left the factory with it missing with no problems whatsoever. My MK2 Driver made it to 120k miles and my 8v GTI has just passed 160k, both engines still going strong :grin:
Don't get me wrong though if you want to buy and fit a replacement head, feel free its your car! :)
Edit: And note the Bentley also mentions that 'on gasolene engines bearing cap #4 is not used', so it is normal for it to be missing on at least some engines. It isn't limited to non-German built engines either because most if not all UK MK2 Golfs are made in Germany.
I don't suppose you know what model/year car the head with cap #4 came from originally do you?
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oh well i don't care, my cars fine without it!
Might be fine, but not as fine as mine with it.
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well that put me in my place! :rolleyes:
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