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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Hawaii-Five-O on 02 July 2013, 18:02

Title: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 02 July 2013, 18:02
After market 19" Santiago's only €2,469 (approx. £2,118)

http://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/wheels-golf7-volkswagen-5-spoke-rims-santiago-19-inch-golf-7-gti.htm

Makes VW's list price of £965 look like a bargain :tongue:
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: dubber36 on 02 July 2013, 18:05
Yeah, but that's £965 instead of the 18" wheels, not as well as.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 July 2013, 18:18
You've got to get tyres as well. Always cheaper to pay the difference for the upgrade than to buy a fresh set and sell your own set. About £200-250 of that £965 will be in the tyres - 19" tyres will probably be £50 a piece nore than the 18"ers.

They sell the Austins for 1689 euros too, so 780 euro difference (£678+ £200 tyre money and you're not far off your £965)
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 02 July 2013, 18:20
Yeah, but that's £965 instead of the 18" wheels, not as well as.

True, true but I'm just pointing out how expensive it will be for people to upgrade post delivery. Eye watering :shocked:
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: HA54SYM` on 02 July 2013, 18:21
Reckon they will come down a lot after a while.

I fancy a set, but would be suspect to handling I guess.

Dave
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: CraigW on 02 July 2013, 18:25
If the car had come standard with 17" alloys I would definitely have upgraded but the fact it was 18"s made the decision that much easier. I still really like the style of the 19"s but it was £965 too far for me and would have been more of an indulgence than required.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 July 2013, 18:31
If the car had come standard with 17" alloys I would definitely have upgraded but the fact it was 18"s made the decision that much easier. I still really like the style of the 19"s but it was £965 too far for me and would have been more of an indulgence than required.

The brake disks already look small on 18" wheels, they look tiny on 19"ers - keep the 18s unless you have ACC to soften the ride on poorer surfaces.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Running Man on 02 July 2013, 18:58
To be fair I like the 19'' alloys but we can't spec them with sunroof and I would rather have the sunroof and the standard (gorgeous) 18''
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: monkeyhanger on 02 July 2013, 19:01
To be fair I like the 19'' alloys but we can't spec them with sunroof and I would rather have the sunroof and the standard (gorgeous) 18''

You are talking about the GTD wheels?  :tongue: :whistle:

I honestly prefer them to the Austins, but not by much, i'd have been happy with either set. The black accents looked great against my dad's black car.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Brenbo on 02 July 2013, 19:04
The Santiago's look great but I bet they will take an age to clean.  I am happy I went with the Austins.  I currently have 7 Spoke alloys and they take so long to clean, the Santiago's look more intricate than my current wheels. 
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: matchboy on 02 July 2013, 19:07
The Santiago's look great but I bet they will take an age to clean

Exactly why I'll pay my car man to do it  :laugh:
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Running Man on 02 July 2013, 19:11
To be fair I like the 19'' alloys but we can't spec them with sunroof and I would rather have the sunroof and the standard (gorgeous) 18''

You are talking about the GTD wheels?  :tongue: :whistle:

I honestly prefer them to the Austins, but not by much, i'd have been happy with either set. The black accents looked great against my dad's black car.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: no I'm talking about the GTI  Santiago's (this thread)  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: AAddict on 02 July 2013, 19:42
You can get some seriously better wheels than the Santiago's for that kind of money. I really can't see anyone buying these wheels aftermarket, apart from broken wheels from potholes.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: dubber36 on 02 July 2013, 22:28
Yeah, but that's £965 instead of the 18" wheels, not as well as.

True, true but I'm just pointing out how expensive it will be for people to upgrade post delivery. Eye watering :shocked:

A lad I know works in R+D for Honda. He tells me that they pay somewhere in the region of £50 for a 18/19" wheel and tyre combo for the production line. It's the aftermarket where the wheel and tyre manufactures make their money. So at nearly ££1000 to upgrade, I'd say vw are rubbing their hands.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: iainmac on 02 July 2013, 23:28
I've ordered Santiagos for my GTD.......do you think the ride will be horrendous?  I just have the standard suspension set up.  I am actually not keen on the standard alloys - IMO the spokes look too skinny for the car.  Hope I haven't put form over function though!
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 July 2013, 08:38
I've ordered Santiagos for my GTD.......do you think the ride will be horrendous?  I just have the standard suspension set up.  I am actually not keen on the standard alloys - IMO the spokes look too skinny for the car.  Hope I haven't put form over function though!

I think the black highlights on the Nogaros make the spokes look skinnier than they actually are. Definitely harsher ride on the 19" on standard suspension with poorer road surfaces - there's a lot less air in a 19" tyre than an 18" tyre.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: matchboy on 03 July 2013, 08:50
The 19s will provide a harder ride, there is no doubt about this. It's whether or not this bothers you, that's the issue. Some it will, so they stick with 18s. Others still want the bigger wheels but still want some level of comfort so spec the ACC (or whatever it's called these days  :laugh:) - then there's me who's just specced the 19s as a firm ride doesn't bother me as anything will be better than my current ride (which is very hard but again doesn't bother me).  :smiley:
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: iainmac on 03 July 2013, 10:12
Do you think we are talking a bone rattling ride?!
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Gryzor on 03 July 2013, 10:15
Do you think we are talking a bone rattling ride?!

It's not a fair comparison I know, but a couple of years ago a mate of mine put 19" wheels on his Ford Focus, and it turned into something where "bone rattling" was definitely words I used to describe it!  Clearly the whole car setup wasn't made for them, but still...not something I'd ever spec on an everyday runner.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: iainmac on 03 July 2013, 10:18
Ok, so now I'm worried!  Too late to change as my car is in transit.  I wonder if anyone has driven a golf with the Santiagos and can give me an honest opinion? I hope I won't feel  :sick:!!!!
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: iainmac on 03 July 2013, 10:22
I've started a new thread on my own specific issue!  :smiley:
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 10:27
I think it'll be OK, assuming you don't spend too much time on rough back roads. On main roads / motorways, I think it'd be fine. The example of the Ford Focus - probably after market 19's / reps not designed for the car with the car having the "up on stilts" look as a result.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Gryzor on 03 July 2013, 10:30
The example of the Ford Focus - probably after market 19's / reps not designed for the car with the car having the "up on stilts" look as a result.

Oh I'd back that up for sure, it looked awful and rode even worse.  Just not suited for the car, but goes to show how wrong it can all go!  At least with the factory 19s, they are designed for the car in question, but without DCC I'm sure it will be a harsher ride than it would be with 18s.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 July 2013, 10:35
I think the 18's don't quite fill the arches as well in the MK7 as they did in the Mk5/6. The arches are definitely bigger in the new car! Years ago, 16 or 17" alloys were considered large, now every 2nd Polo or Fiesta has alloys in that size. Wheel arches are getting bigger and to look anyway decent, a car needs meaty alloys to avoid the castor wheels under a couch look!
Ride quality inevitably suffers though to some degree, but I do like a firm ride.
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 July 2013, 10:37
iainmac, I really doubt you'll be upset with the ride (unless you start to question it like a self fulfilling prophesy though!).  Those 19s are gonna look great on your car!
Title: Re: After market Santiago's €2,469
Post by: iainmac on 03 July 2013, 10:46
Thanks folks!  Just a little bit of panic settling in!  Hopefully they will be fine though!