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Title: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Sprakie2008 on 25 June 2013, 20:31
Hey guys, I could really do with someones help! I'm lost!

Basically, some of you may know i have a supercharged golf GTI mk3, 8v... On idle it is hunting like hell! with popping and uneven sound coming from the exhaust. Then under load it coughs and splutters, and just sits at around 4k revs (pinking). I assume this is starvation of fuel seeing as though the spark plugs are showing signs of getting very hot!

Things I have tried to get rid of the issue:

Airflow Meter x3 - including re-wiring and repositioning!
Ignition coil
Dizzy + Rotor arm
Plugs
Gapping the plugs
leads
Fuel pump (3+4 Bar)
Air Temp Sensor
Coolant temp senser
Knock sensor
Timing
New fuel pump
Relays
Lambda

Thats all I can think of right now, no doubt you will have made suggestions I have already tried.. But any suggestion is helpful!!!

Also, I get the Sporadic Short - Upper Stop Value (Lambda) on the Vagcom; but its the hand held one, not the computer software so i cant post a screenshot!

Hope to get some help from you guys! Cheers
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 25 June 2013, 20:39
What engine code?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Sprakie2008 on 25 June 2013, 20:45
Engine code is AGG, Sorry should have put that!
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Screech16v on 25 June 2013, 20:46
While I was reading this air leak sprung to mind,ie hunting and weak mixture

btw im not a genius lol
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 25 June 2013, 21:04
Does it cut out at all?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Sprakie2008 on 25 June 2013, 21:05
I thought air leak at first, but can't seem to find one!
And nope, never cuts out!
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Screech16v on 25 June 2013, 21:11
I don't see fuel filter on your list?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Sprakie2008 on 25 June 2013, 21:38
Furl filter has been changed, one of the first places I checked!
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: gazareth on 25 June 2013, 21:45
hi have you checked your fuel pressure?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Screech16v on 25 June 2013, 21:47

◆ If the fault "Lambda control upper stop value" is recorded, this means that the lambda control has reached the "mixture enrichment" regulating limit. However, the lambda probe is still detecting a "lean" mixture.

Lambda control
 
 Upper limit value
 
- Short to earth
 
- No Lambda control
 
- Check Lambda control

 
- Injector defective (blocked)
 
- Engine running problems
 
- Check injectors for correct flow
 

 - Fuel pressure regulator defective
 
 
- Check fuel pressure regulator
 

  - Fuel pump defective
 
 
- Check fuel pump
 
- Unmetered air after air mass meter
 
 
- Check intake air system for leaks (unmetered air)
 
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: tweed on 26 June 2013, 10:39
Was it running fine?
Sounds like needs mapping to me.
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Bellend on 26 June 2013, 10:46
I'm with Tweed. What's been done to the ECU?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Wayne on 26 June 2013, 10:47
Was it running fine?
Sounds like needs mapping to me.

Agreed, underfueling is going to be down to the mapping etc.
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: tweed on 26 June 2013, 18:32
Oh and have you got bigger injectors?
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Post by: Screech16v on 26 June 2013, 19:07
Lol I didn't realise this was a new conversion and has never ran right since build,i agree about remapping  :tongue:
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: gazareth on 26 June 2013, 19:48
you could try squeezing the fuel hose on the return line  to the tank to see if it smoothes the idle out at all as a quick test. best make sure your feed from tank is well secure first though in case it pops off when pressure builds up in line. was the compression dropped and what kind of cam you running?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: gazareth on 26 June 2013, 20:07
ah just thought of something else. is the cat in exhaust blocked???
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Sprakie2008 on 27 June 2013, 00:02
It is running a brand new set of
G60 injectors which have been change to another new set! It has also been mapped by Wayne Schofield down at ChipWizards and was putting out 184. It's slowly got worse over time it seems though! The exhaust is not blocked, took the lambda out so there was a nice big hole so obviously could let more out, but still didnt solve the problem. Fuel pressure is it 2.5 on idle and goes up to 3 on revs, tried with my mates g60 pump and it is better, but not perfect so I assume it's just over compensating for another fault?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: Wayne on 27 June 2013, 00:05
Maybe it is time to look at an aftermarket managment set up, it sounds like that even mapped it is struggling to cope.
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: gazareth on 27 June 2013, 00:20
try blowing some smoke through the intake ducting just to be sure you got no air leaks before the head. maybe a manifold or throttle body gasket is been pushed out with the charge pressure?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: tweed on 27 June 2013, 10:09
try blowing some smoke through the intake ducting just to be sure you got no air leaks before the head. maybe a manifold or throttle body gasket is been pushed out with the charge pressure?

surely he got a boost gauge and can see a drop in psi?
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: tweed on 27 June 2013, 10:10
Maybe it is time to look at an aftermarket managment set up, it sounds like that even mapped it is struggling to cope.

I agree
Title: Re: Help from a genius please?!
Post by: gazareth on 27 June 2013, 18:08
try blowing some smoke through the intake ducting just to be sure you got no air leaks before the head. maybe a manifold or throttle body gasket is been pushed out with the charge pressure?

surely he got a boost gauge and can see a drop in psi?
[not sure what he has to be honest. just know its a supercharged agg and throwing some ideas out there. anything is worth a try at this stage./quote]