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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: poolmeds on 18 June 2013, 21:14
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HI all!
just joined, looking to buy a mk6 edition 35 golf gti.
I was wondering how easy and safe it is to tune a gti so it is performing 0-60 more like an R or ideally hitting 0-60 in nearer 5 seconds?
I use my car for business so dont really wish to have a really loud exhaust or induction kit but happilly put a new exhaust (not hugely loud) and remap etc....
what would people say with regards to getting faster acceleration and better performance>?
apologies if this has been discussed too many times :)
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honestly if its a business car what difference is a second or two going to make unless you plan on ragging it from 0-60 with a stop watch every time you drive it.
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0-60 is more to do with driver ability than the cars performance. The .:R will always have the edge due to being four wheel drive, but as said in the previous post, does it really matter?
30-80mph times are far more important in real life. Having said that, the GTD does a pretty good job there.
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To keep it ultra simple mate, just buy the Superchips Blufin device and quickly map it upto 255-265hp.
Then its nearly on par with .:R - but like the other guys say, the R is a different car totally.
Link to Bluefin, with free air filter:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Superchips-Bluefin-DIY-Chip-Remap-For-Volkswagen-Golf-Mk6-GTI-2011-2-0-Turbo-/370785761202?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Plat_Gen%3AMK+VI&hash=item56548db7b2
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35 has a detuned R engine, both mapped they give around the same bhp, 4wd off the line is always going to win though
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35 has a detuned R engine, both mapped they give around the same bhp, 4wd off the line is always going to win though
How much weight does the 4WD system add to standard 35 / GTI
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hey all!
thanks for the replies, sorry i prob didnt make my point properly.
it isnt just the 0-60 its the acceleration in general.
personally, i find the fun bit the acceleration through gears etc.....lets face it, when you are doing 70 mph on the motorway in a gti or an R and you have a 2ltd diesel audi 170 behind you the difference is minimal - so my joy is pulling away quick, being able to accelerate out of corners quick etc. I
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oops i hadnt finished!
i like the point you made about the detuned R engine in the edition 35 - very interesting. I would just like to be able to tune the engine back up to the R's level or just above so thank you for the link to bluefin.
anyone prefer any other type of remap than bluefin?
i appreciate the comment regarding the lack of 4wd - but maybe the extra weight cancels some of that out?
thanks everyone!
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From a standing start 4WD launch will see off the Edition 35 and other cars with more power fwd/rwd.
A stage 1 TSI GTI will probably be faster than a stock R from a roll despite typically mapping to less than 265 ps.
On a roll I think the Edition 35 will be quicker which is where the weight will count more along with additional transmission losses as a result of power to an extra two wheels.
The engine in the Edition 35 with stage 2 can see 300 + bhp but traction will be an issue.
If petrol consumption isn't massively important and you're after big figures I would say the R is the best best. The FWD chassis is a little compromised above GTI stage 1 imo without further mods and this won't be better in the ED35 with more power than a GTI.
Also doesn't it rain a lot in this place? :grin:
As you can probably tell I am a fan of the R but didn't want the fuel penalties as a daily driver/business miles.
Both cars are fairly rare, I think I've seen maybe 1 Ed35 and 2-3 Golf R's on the roads since release.
Here's what others have done:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=52245.0
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thanks for that reply - really useful, much appreciated :) hmmmm decisions!
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I think there's a point missed here... does the standard R actually make anymore power at 3000 rpm than the ED35? If not, then it won't be any quicker than an ED35 at motorway speeds. If you want to drop a 2 litre 170hp Audi you'll need to drop gears in both cars to get the engine right on song.
My brother has a mapped Leon FR 170, running 210hp and the ED will still drop it, but you can't roll on in top gear in a petrol car and expect it to lose a similar capacity diesel with the torque. Diesel's are all about mid-range pull, hence why they are so good on the motorway.
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Blah blah blah
No point having stock vs standard, My R mapped up to well over 300bhp on a revo stage 1...
I wouldn't swap my stage 2 GTI back (even if police found it) for my Golf R even if my R was standard... Now my R has a stage 2+ flash and lookout
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thanks for that reply - really useful, much appreciated :) hmmmm decisions!
My 35 will be going up for sale in the next two weeks. Once GTi international is done as I'll be entering show n shine. Interested?
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Diesel's are all about mid-range pull, hence why they are so good on the motorway.
Ahem......My R......over 400lbft from 2.5krpm to 5k rpm....think that covers the diesels rpm range :wink:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/IMAG0591-1_zps0bcfb65b.jpg) (http://s156.photobucket.com/user/hurdy_album/media/IMAG0591-1_zps0bcfb65b.jpg.html)
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Hi Ginge
whats ur spec/price please? any link to pics?
many thanks
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Not exactly 'standard' though Hurdy :tongue:
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Hi Ginge
whats ur spec/price please? any link to pics?
many thanks
Hi
3dr, Candy White, Manual, TPMS, Lux Pack. 18000 miles full service history which includes transferable service pack. 61 plate registered in November.
For the right price all the minor mods can go with the car which are:-
Gti tax disc holder
Gti seat inserts
35 foot rest cover
Rear gloss diffuser
Red ambient lighting (footwell)
Forge Alloy Caps
Candy White Engine Covers
H&R 10mm Trak+ spacers
R wheel arch extensions
I might let it go with RCD510 but I'm not sure yet if I'll be putting that in the wife's cab, so if I do it'll have the factory 310 re-fitted.
The tyres are all good and the car is mint, a few of the guys on here will vouch for that. I haven't really tried selling the car anywhere else as I don't really want to until after Gti international (6th July).
Price wise I'll be looking for £21000
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i477/Ginge35Edition/cars/null_zps31b53eb2.jpg)
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i477/Ginge35Edition/cars/874BEBD2-B7E6-44B1-8986-36C1608F357D-715-000000AF796DDE2D_zps18be3d74.jpg)
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Usually I wouldnt comment but you've posted it here:
But 21k is imo to expensive
20k miles / manual / Service pack includes like 4 services before its done, I assume you've had 2
And not to mention you could buy a new mk7 for 25k
But as with anything I guess something's only worth what sum1 is willing to pay so glwts
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I dusted a ford focus ST in my GTD DSG with the launch control on off the lights. We set off at the exact same time, but once I was in 2nd gear it just launched forward and I was very surprised. So it is just as much about the driver as well as the car, but dsg's do all the hard work for you!
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£25 grand plus a bit more plus a long wait for a 7 is great but the time you get the extras it'll soon be over thirty so all of a sudden your talking another 10 large.
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I put my spec in the v dub website and mark 7 would be middle thirties so 21 grand might seem a lot but spec condition all add to cost go down to vw and have a look at what there selling for the money
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I put my spec in the v dub website and mark 7 would be middle thirties so 21 grand might seem a lot but spec condition all add to cost go down to vw and have a look at what there selling for the money
Did the same a while back and my mk7 spec came to £35,097 :shocked:
£21k doesn't seem that unreasonable for an ed35 in mint condition with reasonable spec, when you stack it up against a loaded mk7
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I bet it's a tough sell at 21k, you can have a mint golf r at that price, what would glass offer for on that?
EDIT:
I took a quick look on parkers at a 61 plate Manual 3 door 35 @ £17,500
All the mk6 prices are dropping like stones, same happened with the mk5's when the mk6 came out
I see 10k mk6 gti's about at the min on autotrader, crazy
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hi
im afraid i would be looking for a 5 door but thanks for info.
price doesnt seem too bad but i have seen a 5 door online which is immaculate for a few k less but yours does look immense... :) good luck with your sale
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hi
im afraid i would be looking for a 5 door but thanks for info.
price doesnt seem too bad but i have seen a 5 door online which is immaculate for a few k less but yours does look immense... :) good luck with your sale
good luck with the purchase you won't be disappointed :cool: