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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: master_hayabusa on 15 June 2013, 14:42
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...Because that's the GTI I have ordered ;)
Review coming in a couple of weeks, mentions it at the end of the video, PP with DSG. Damn this A45 AMG is unbelievably fast.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-mercedes-a45-amg-driven-flat-out
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Oooh goody! :cool:
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I bet it goes something like. Amg too hard, poor ride, but very fast. GTI better alrounder better ride.
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Sorry for me it's like the BMW, all go no doubt, but just plain ugly. Don't like the A class one bit inside or out.
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That is a monster of a hatch. But at 35k ish it's not comparable to the GTI, more the 135i.
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Sorry for me it's like the BMW, all go no doubt, but just plain ugly. Don't like the A class one bit inside or out.
Went to Audi BMW Lexus Ford VW and Mercedes dealers and had good look at all cars in my range and the Mercedes dealer was one I left quickest as really dislike the A class - Claustrophobic interior with such high doors and narrow windows and that media screen?
Not much use a car being super quick if handling and ride are average to poor as in the day to day driving being a second slower but with great ride and handling means a whole lot more - One thing I am really looking forward to is improved ride! S Line suspension is a major irritant now.
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An interesting comparison I'm looking forward to seeing & reading. Without sounding negative though I think the GTi has bitten off more than it can chew in terms of outright performance.... The GTi's 179bhp/ton is no match for either the Merc's 228bhp/ton or BMW's 219bhp/ton.
However I'm sure off the track & in real world terms the performance difference isn't going to be that 'huge'... Knowing how these reviews work I'm guessing the BMW will be the ultimate winner. The Merc is far too expensive on the one hand whilst the GTi won't be exciting enough. The M-lite thus sits nicely in the middle.. How predictable is that?
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An interesting comparison I'm looking forward to seeing & reading. Without sounding negative though I think the GTi has bitten off more than it can chew in terms of outright performance.... The GTi's 179bhp/ton is no match for either the Merc's 228bhp/ton or BMW's 219bhp/ton.
However I'm sure off the track & in real world terms the performance difference isn't going to be that 'huge'... Knowing how these reviews work I'm guessing the BMW will be the ultimate winner. The Merc is far too expensive on the one hand whilst the GTi won't be exciting enough. The M-lite thus sits nicely in the middle.. How predictable is that?
That's exactly how it will end up. The 135 is a car journalists wet dream just now. Completely unfair to put the GTI up against these two, a fairer comparison would be the new R up against these two whenever it appears
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An interesting comparison I'm looking forward to seeing & reading. Without sounding negative though I think the GTi has bitten off more than it can chew in terms of outright performance.... The GTi's 179bhp/ton is no match for either the Merc's 228bhp/ton or BMW's 219bhp/ton.
However I'm sure off the track & in real world terms the performance difference isn't going to be that 'huge'... Knowing how these reviews work I'm guessing the BMW will be the ultimate winner. The Merc is far too expensive on the one hand whilst the GTi won't be exciting enough. The M-lite thus sits nicely in the middle.. How predictable is that?
That's exactly how it will end up. The 135 is a car journalists wet dream just now. Completely unfair to put the GTI up against these two, a fairer comparison would be the new R up against these two whenever it appears
Or the new Audi S3 come to think of it...for the GTi to be pitted against the M-lite & A45 AMG is quite a compliment nonetheless.... Just proves how good it is to be even considered in this company.
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The A Class has a very cheap feel about it, and I'll be honest it looks pretty naff too, a bit too Kia/Hyundai for my liking, the grill on the high end version is its only redeeming feature to my eyes. As for this bahnstorming version, I'm not quite sure who will buy it?
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I would quite like to see the mk7 GTI against the Pug 208GTI as a rematch from the 80s
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I would quite like to see the mk7 GTI against the Pug 208GTI as a rematch from the 80s
These two cars are in completely different leagues now - would be a pointless comparison
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I would quite like to see the mk7 GTI against the Pug 208GTI as a rematch from the 80s
These two cars are in completely different leagues now - would be a pointless comparison
the mk2 and 205 were size wise in different segments back then the pug rival was really the 309GTI size wise but then still got compared. The 208 is not far differnent power wise or speed to the low powered GTI. The GTI has also on regular reviews been compared to the BINI cooper S or JCW. The 208 is more relevant than a 135I or AMG which are in a different league.
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I would quite like to see the mk7 GTI against the Pug 208GTI as a rematch from the 80s
These two cars are in completely different leagues now - would be a pointless comparison
the mk2 and 205 were size wise then but they still got compared. The 208 is not far differnentbpower wise to the low powered golf.
:grin: :grin: who you trying to kid? Your only on here for a wind up pal going by your recent posts
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I would quite like to see the mk7 GTI against the Pug 208GTI as a rematch from the 80s
These two cars are in completely different leagues now - would be a pointless comparison
the mk2 and 205 were size wise then but they still got compared. The 208 is not far differnentbpower wise to the low powered golf.
:grin: :grin: who you trying to kid? Your only on here for a wind up pal going by your recent posts
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I agree with Snoopy; historically the two cars were seen as great rivals with the Golf being the bigger and better built more rounded car and the Pug being the smaller more focussed car. The 309 was the direct sales competitor for the Golf GTI but was made in Britain out of recycled bean cans and despite being more fun than a Golf to drive it was never a sales rival. The Golf and 205 were the ones to lock horns.
So I'd agree, although things have very much moved on in the 20 odd years since the two stopped competing it will be interesting (just as a magazine feature) to see how the two spiritual successors fare head to head.
Obviously the Polo GTI would be the direct rival to the 208 but nobody buys them...
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I agree with Snoopy; historically the two cars were seen as great rivals with the Golf being the bigger and better built more rounded car and the Pug being the smaller more focussed car. The 309 was the direct sales competitor for the Golf GTI but was made in Britain out of recycled bean cans and despite being more fun than a Golf to drive it was never a sales rival. The Golf and 205 were the ones to lock horns.
So I'd agree, although things have very much moved on in the 20 odd years since the two stopped competing it will be interesting (just as a magazine feature) to see how the two spiritual successors fare head to head.
Obviously the Polo GTI would be the direct rival to the 208 but nobody buys them...
If the 208 is a competitor to the Golf I'm cancelling my order :cry:
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I agree with Snoopy; historically the two cars were seen as great rivals with the Golf being the bigger and better built more rounded car and the Pug being the smaller more focussed car. The 309 was the direct sales competitor for the Golf GTI but was made in Britain out of recycled bean cans and despite being more fun than a Golf to drive it was never a sales rival. The Golf and 205 were the ones to lock horns.
So I'd agree, although things have very much moved on in the 20 odd years since the two stopped competing it will be interesting (just as a magazine feature) to see how the two spiritual successors fare head to head.
Obviously the Polo GTI would be the direct rival to the 208 but nobody buys them...
If the 208 is a competitor to the Golf I'm cancelling my order :cry:
Well for most people it won't be but it very much was 20 odd years ago so will be an interesting MAGAZINE feature.
Purely to see if VW steals the driving dynamics vote back from Peugeot which is smaller and lighter.
In fact I'd like to see how the Polo GTI and Golf GTI fare back to back when specced similarly. Just out of curiosity.
All sorts of people consider all sorts of things and we have a massive choice now which people didn't have back in the day.
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Autocar did a recent test of the Ford Fiesta ST v Peugeot 208 GTI v Renault Clio RS 200 Turbo, which are more its rivals and it came last by a long way.
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Autocar did a recent test of the Ford Fiesta ST v Peugeot 208 GTI v Renault Clio RS 200 Turbo, which are more its rivals and it came last by a long way.
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Have you seen the size of the new Clio?? :shocked: Maybe that should be compared to the Golf!!
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Have you seen the size of the new Clio?? :shocked: Maybe that should be compared to the Golf!!
I can't make my mind up whether I hate it or love it looks wise. It's certainly bold!!!
Autocar did a recent test of the Ford Fiesta ST v Peugeot 208 GTI v Renault Clio RS 200 Turbo, which are more its rivals and it came last by a long way.
Exactly!
A lot of buyers in the hot hatch segment will go more on a cars dynamics than its size. Hence why the BINI JCW and Golf get labelled as rivals.
It'd just be nice from a historical point to see how much the Golf has overhauled its old French rival in driving dynamics.
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The Clio is an outright Scirocco clone - it has grown a lot since it's last incarnation.