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General => General discussion => Topic started by: murraymint on 15 June 2013, 11:13
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As above, which one will you buy? I was gunna buy the Xbox until i found out about all the ghay things it does so its ps4 for me
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PS4 potentially. But although MS have been vocal/open about it's daily check in system, inability to play used games (without extra penalties), and insistence on having Kinect, Sony have been a bit more quiet. They have IIRC applied for a patent on how secondhand games can work wrt DRM.
I think I'll hold out until the second run of PS4s so we know if there are any problems with it. But I'll go for it over X1.
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So far PS4
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getting both lol only second batches though
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Pre-ordered my XBOX One yesterday. The check ins, Kinect and all the other bollocks doesn't both me. People are just afraid to move forward from what they are used to with consoles. MS have a vision which is obvious if you look at the details, and ultimately we will be going all digital during this generation. Certain measures need to be put in place to make the transition between physical and digital and that is what MS are doing.
Everyone who thinks Sony will not follow suit are kidding themselves, DRM and essential check ins will be the norm on both consoles.
Plus the PS4 looks completely gay, it's like two PS2s have been stuck together. :evil:
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The Ps4 is an outright pure gaming machine which is what I want. I have internet media stuff etc and all the other bits xbox one comes with. Was going to pre order xbox one a while back but after intensive research so glad did not. I think Ps4 will win all battles this time. Dont get me wrong I am sure the xbox one will be fantastic. Just think Ps4 will come out on top.
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You are aware the PS4 does many of the things that XBOX One does, it's just Sony haven't promoted these things. You really think the One isn't an all out gaming machine? It's that and much more, whether you want to use the aditional features is down to you, but at least they are there. Things change, everything changes. People are just afraid to change.
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Where did you pre-order your Xbox from shady?
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Where did you pre-order your Xbox from shady?
Game. Just hoping they don't go under between now and the One's release. :grin:
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You are aware the PS4 does many of the things that XBOX One does, it's just Somy haven't promoted these things. You really think the One isn't an all out gaming machine? It's that and much more, whether you want to use the edition all features is down to you, but at least they are there. Things change, everything changes. People are just afraid to change.
Not afraid of change my friend. I have owned Xbox and playstation over the years. I think I would rather wait until I know more about the ps4 compared to the xbox one before I put down my money and make any rash decisions. NO rush to jump in straight away. Patience pays off. At least when I do buy I will 100% sure :smiley:
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just get the both, two entertainment centres for the house, i'll my mac and xbox set up in the main room and the ps4 in my bedroom on my motorised bedstand so i can watch some crisp Blue-ray films on a big 42" :wink: and yes i know xbox will be blue ray but i would also have enough space to swing a cat for the kinect! :grin:
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Some things I'd like to know about the X1:
1. You have to have the online check in for games to be able to play them. What will happen say 10 yrs down the line when the new next-gen system comes out? Will they shut down the servers, rendering the console unusable? Will they create a patch stopping the need for check in? What about games that require online DRM?
2. If every X1 has to be able to check in, will they have enough servers to cope? IIRC the SimCity game required something similar to play and crashed because the servers were overloaded. At the moment, not everyone who has an Xbox 360 plays/goes online.
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In response to your first question, all reps for MS have all been asked that question or similar, and in response the answer has been "we have only just started this generation". I know what you're saying but I doubt they will shut them all the way off like that, they wouldn't be allowed to unless they provided some form of offline mode.
The second question, MS have stated they have 300,000 servers ready for this next generation. I don't know specifics but I imagine they will be prepared for such a scenario.
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i too not afraid of change but the xbox stupid trade in 2nd hand games etc is the killer this is fact. the stats show this allready. im a big xbox fan always had em but not anymore i know no one near me who now buying a xbox one. Sony have made it very clear there games and console are ''normal'' most people have laptops and internet TVs for the gimicy stuff. i want a decent console that can play games properly and not summit i talk to etc. and want to swap and borrow games with out paying £30 lol.
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plus people like me dad arnt and wont be online so xbox kills that
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plus people like me dad arnt and wont be online so xbox kills that
Have you looked into the Famoly Sharing feature? That is the very definition of being able to borrow games for the next gen.
Example, if I buy Forza Motorsport 5 and you are on my friends list and in my circle of the Family Sharing, you can play it with me at the same time! Even if I'm not playing it you can still play it so long as none of my other friends playing it already. One person to play any given game at a time, just like of you borrowed a game today. Except both of you get of play it on your own consoles.
Also, if your Dad isn't online, he can still tether his phone to he One to do the daily check in.
I really think people are too quick to judge rather than reading the facts, instead they are jumping on the bandwagon as Sony have said they will not be doing the same. However, they will follow in MS's footsteps, and then what's going to happen? People will backlash at them.
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the sharing feature acording to the e3 show is only for 1 person that it. and like say we shouldnt ''have'' to link phones or internet to it etc. it a games console not a pc. like you say if sony turn out same it going to be rather annoying but as they have made it clear it a simple games console with normal trade in etc. and the ps4 £100.00 cheaper which is important too. xbox have lost sh!t loads of pre orders due the DRM and price and specs etc over the ps4. sony have done what xbox did 6 years ago when xbox 360 shat on sony ps3 parade. the tables have turned this time
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Sony all the way!!!
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I guess only time will tell. At the end of the day I'm happy with the choice I've made because it all makes sense to me.
Sony fans will be happy with their choice (until Sony sh!t on their fans with DRM in the future). :whistle:
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I guess only time will tell. At the end of the day I'm happy with the choice I've made because it all makes sense to me.
Sony fans will be happy with their choice (until Sony sh!t on their fans with DRM in the future). :whistle:
Understandable you got the Xbox one. You do enjoy a good ass raping.
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If you'd like to understand MS's vision more, read this:
http://kotaku.com/-513819282
Very good article.
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I decided that after reading up on both consoles, come release I plan to upgrade my PC instead! It's faster than both the consoles and has most of the advantages and few of the drawbacks :grin:
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:grin: :laugh:
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If you'd like to understand MS's vision more, read this:
http://kotaku.com/-513819282
Very good article.
Intresting read. The whole 24 hour thing is starting to make some sence, like he said with the ipad as an example, yh you don't have to connect an ipad to the Internet every day but there pritty dull if never connected. And this cloud gaming sounds very promising, but my only worry is how will games react/suffer if connection is lost mid game.
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Xbox rules.
Enough said :cool:
On a more serious note. I think everyone grew up with playstation and loved it before xbox v1 came out. Sony made one of the worst business mistakes ever, which in my view was releasing the ps3 near a year after the 360 (Sony owned the gaming sector!). This in turn led to a large proportion of gamers moved to the 360 as it was next gen. Would MS still be on par with Sony if the ps3 was released earlier?
I can still remember turning on my xbox 360 for the first time and seeing the magnificent wonder on the screen of which my eyes had not bestowed upon before.
However, it feels more now in this day and age as market gimmicks and pr polishing. I mean seriously, how many frigging versions of the xbox 360 do you need??
However, getting back to the op's question...xbox one as I am nicely settled with the 360now. Xbox live is superior service compared to the sony network. Kinect is totally awesome.
Please don't think, I am a xbox fan boy lol. Like I said, I have grew up my earlier years with playstation, even had ps3 for a few years with my 360, but the blueray drive went.
I would honestly say, I would had been in love with the ps3 if it had came out before the 360, but it didn't.
I think hardware terms wise, the human eye is not going to see much different between the one and ps4, so I wouldn't worry about it :smiley:
I would stick to what you like :wink:
Thanks
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I watched the launch of xbox 360 one and they said if you have gold online you can get two free games per month online!
Does this apply for Europe aswell?
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PS4 sold out on Amazon.
PS4 outselling xbox one by 2:1
95% of people polled are getting a PS4. (40,00 people poll)
"In talking to a developer who wished to remain anonymous, gamers will see a difference on Day One when they compare third party PS4 games to Xbox One head-to-head. The developer told me the PS4 is 40 percent more powerful than Xbox One and games like Call of Duty Ghosts will be noticeably different out of the gate."
"But if this differentiator holds true, not only will Xbox One games have DRM issues and no rental options and limited used game opportunities, the games won’t look as good as PS4 titles. That sounds like a perfect storm of negativity for the hardcore gamers."
"This processing power issue also could be a potential reason behind the latest controversy that has emerged for Microsoft at E3, in which photos were taken of some Xbox One games running on Windows 7 PCs with NVIDIA graphics cards. Sony PS4 developers took to Twitter saying PS4 demos were running on PS4 dev kits. I know playing PS4 games behind closed doors that the PS4 was clearly visible as I played."
BOOM! headshot.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2013/06/15/sony-playstation-4-launch-edition-already-sold-out-at-amazon/?partner=yahootix
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I watched the launch of xbox 360 one and they said if you have gold online you can get two free games per month online!
Does this apply for Europe aswell?
It does. It started earlier this month with Fable 3. July is Halo 3 and Assassin's Creed 3 (I think).
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PS4 games look like animation fantasy?
XBOX games look realistic and firmer details?
Guess it depends on the type of gamer?
cool shady good to know seems to be a 100 diff in price but the free games work out as my kid could get 10 free games in 12months.
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It's an £80 difference. :cool: When you think about it £80 isn't much when you're making an investment in something you will probably be using for 5+ years.
The free games are only downloads for the 360 and won't be able to be transferred over to the One.
The difference in graphics is all speculation as various developers are saying different things at the moment. Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid) has come out and said the difference in minimal at best. And it goes back to how developers end up using the hardware. Look at the PS3 vs. 360. PS3 was undoubtedly the superior console on paper, but in reality it never amounted to much. 360 games still looked fantastic for their time. The benefit the One has this time round is allowing developers to offload certain tasks to the Cloud rather than making the CPU calculate them, thus making breathing room for the CPU/GPU to focus on the more intense tasks (making the games look better).
At the end of the day, until we have the consoles in our hands we can't really say much.
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People should worry less about the price as the difference is the cost of a kinect. Not worry about features and buy on exclusives
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I saw the limited version of the one they wanted another £200 I think :whistle:
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I saw the limited version of the one they wanted another £200 I think :whistle:
Limited version? They have only announced one SKU. Are you referring to the Day One Edition?
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Don't know mate it might have been a con for all I know I just select the highest price on all the search engines and some are very expensive they all look the same to me and TBF don't know whats limited maybe it was a larger internal drive?
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It's an £80 difference. :cool: When you think about it £80 isn't much when you're making an investment in something you will probably be using for 5+ years.
The free games are only downloads for the 360 and won't be able to be transferred over to the One.
The difference in graphics is all speculation as various developers are saying different things at the moment. Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid) has come out and said the difference in minimal at best. And it goes back to how developers end up using the hardware. Look at the PS3 vs. 360. PS3 was undoubtedly the superior console on paper, but in reality it never amounted to much. 360 games still looked fantastic for their time. The benefit the One has this time round is allowing developers to offload certain tasks to the Cloud rather than making the CPU calculate them, thus making breathing room for the CPU/GPU to focus on the more intense tasks (making the games look better).
At the end of the day, until we have the consoles in our hands we can't really say much.
Spot on.
Crazy, that people think there will be a signifcant difference in graphics between the 2 :grin:
IICR...The 360 has better results on the GPU compared to the PS3. I'm sure testing was done via the ghostbusters game. If you are into gaming soley...I believe the GPU is more important compared to other hardware in the machine.
Will preorder my xbox to get the one day edition :)
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Don't know mate it might have been a con for all I know I just select the highest price on all the search engines and some are very expensive they all look the same to me and TBF don't know whats limited maybe it was a larger internal drive?
Probably some rubbish. :grin: There is only one console being launched. No differences in HDD etc. The price is confirmed as £429.00 so if you see any with a higher price than that then tell them to jog on.
It's an £80 difference. :cool: When you think about it £80 isn't much when you're making an investment in something you will probably be using for 5+ years.
The free games are only downloads for the 360 and won't be able to be transferred over to the One.
The difference in graphics is all speculation as various developers are saying different things at the moment. Hideo Kojima (Metal Gear Solid) has come out and said the difference in minimal at best. And it goes back to how developers end up using the hardware. Look at the PS3 vs. 360. PS3 was undoubtedly the superior console on paper, but in reality it never amounted to much. 360 games still looked fantastic for their time. The benefit the One has this time round is allowing developers to offload certain tasks to the Cloud rather than making the CPU calculate them, thus making breathing room for the CPU/GPU to focus on the more intense tasks (making the games look better).
At the end of the day, until we have the consoles in our hands we can't really say much.
Spot on.
Crazy, that people think there will be a signifcant difference in graphics between the 2 :grin:
IICR...The 360 has better results on the GPU compared to the PS3. I'm sure testing was done via the ghostbusters game. If you are into gaming soley...I believe the GPU is more important compared to other hardware in the machine.
Will preorder my xbox to get the one day edition :)
I've got mine pre-ordered too. I'm going to be going to the midnight launch of my local game shop and I will also be taking some time off of work once we know the exact date it is to be launched. I'm a little excited.... :evil:
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So....why was Microsoft using PC's running Windows 7 with Nvidia graphics cards for their Xbox one demos at E3 and not the xbox one, which has AMD graphics cards btw?
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Hey Jon because it was easier to use the Microsoft presentation software? :laugh: :grin:
Think you should write a strong letter asking what hardware they used in those PC's only if you have the time though?
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MS have confirmed no DRM at all, able to trade games in without restrictions!
http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310
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Dammit. Just about to post that. Looks like Ms have done a 180 on their plans. Wonder why. :whistle:
Maybe they should call it the xbox 180? :grin:
I wonder how many sales they've lost because of their original stance.
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Dammit. Just about to post that. Looks like Ms have done a 180 on their plans. Wonder why. :whistle:
Maybe they should call it the xbox 180? :grin:
I wonder how many sales they've lost because of their original stance.
:grin:
I imagine the sheer backlash over the net along with the competition with Sony (price, used games etc.) had a major part of it. Nonetheless it's good for all the gamers who were complaining. Like I said, it didn't really bother me. The downfall now though is we won't have the Family Sharing option with games. Also if you buy a game disc, you need to put the disc in to play it (originally you'd install it to the One and play straight from the HDD after a 24 hour check in).
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Ha xbox have pulled drm and sh!t licence rules along with every day internet requirements
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Ha xbox have pulled drm and sh!t licence rules along with every day internet requirements
We know. :grin:
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.
For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.
Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.
You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.
So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:
An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games –
After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today –
There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.
These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.
Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
END.
ouch!
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microsoft owned lol .
still im going ps4 cheaper smidge more power (like you ever see it mind)
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I was getting the One anyway, I lost respect for Sony during the PS2 era. Don't ask me why, I can't remember the reason but what I do know is that there have been no games that have enticed me to try Playstation again.
I was a huge GT fan but we all know Forza is better. I really don't like the look of the PS4 either. It is like two PS2s stuck together. The One isn't much better but at least it blends in well looking like VCR. :lipsrsealed:
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Was a ps2 man, then jumped ship to Microsoft for the 360.
Will end up with an Xbox One regardless but the launch has been absolutely shambolic, even so far!
Trying to force ideas on us to try and bring the second-hand market to a stop to capitalise on sales, well, can see how well that went, trying to hide it behind a cloud of 'more accesible' bullsh!t/greed.
One of Microsofts main ideas about the new Xbox and they've had to completely U-turn on it, makes them look like complete idiots.
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I'll get an Xbox so I can hack it to bits with my pc when im bored and whoop my mates on lame games like cod :grin:
I play all my games on my pc, it spanks both the new xbox and ps4 and I have not even over clocked it yet or stuffed it full of memory, 16gb will do for now.
Cost me my left testicle though, and means I still own a Mk3 :laugh:
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Anyone know any reatilers who are taking deposits, rather than the full whack. I am planning on doing the timing belt and pump on the golf and can't really afford both moment. :laugh:
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Anyone know any reatilers who are taking deposits, rather than the full whack. I am planning on doing the timing belt and pump on the golf and can't really afford both moment. :laugh:
GAME are taking £20 deposits mate.
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hang on. do you now need the disc in to play the games?
if so that is really sh!t. I was looking forward to having my whole collection right there and ready to go. When I travel to the GF's on weekends it's a pain taking all the games.
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hang on. do you now need the disc in to play the games?
if so that is really sh!t. I was looking forward to having my whole collection right there and ready to go. When I travel to the GF's on weekends it's a pain taking all the games.
Yup. The disc acts as your DRM.
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When I travel to the GF's on weekends it's a pain taking all the games.
Slip this in your purse and stop whinging. :grin:
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/400449221824?var=lv&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=66
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What is this I hear about microsnot backing down on DRM?
Oh nm, I must of missed Elvi's post, just seen it now.
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Having watched a program the other night I am now leaning towards Xbox one :cool:
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Xbox One for me all the way.
I'm not technically minded about system specifications so for me it came down to the very same thought process as I originally faced between the 360 and the PS3.
Would I rather play Gran Turismo, or play Halo and Forza?
Answer to that is Halo and Forza.
As some have said, last time round the PS3 was technically the better machine, but in reality I found the Xbox just felt better. Everything from the menus to the controller just had a more attractive feel. The 360 felt like a progression from what I used to play - the PS3 just felt like going back to my childhood when I played GT1 & GT2.
The recent news about the ONE has cheered me up quite a bit. I wasn't keen on the 24-hour check-in (although it wouldn't impede me) and the DRM nonsense was irritating but again not prohibitive for me. Glad to hear Microsoft has backed down over both.
Next on my list though is the backwards-compatability although I understand this is not likely to change as the systems are developed on entirely different architectures (technical stuff again lol).
My only challenge is games I enjoy playing just now (Forza Horizon, Mass Effect and the LEGO series) don't have ONE replacements, so it's a choice between getting the new FM5 + COD or continuing to play games I still enjoy.
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http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/xbox-one-is-becoming-a-great-ad-for-the-ps4-1164413
So now the plan for MS is to use the Kinect to target adverts at you.
Your console will use Kinect to work out who's in the room and your Xbox LIVE account to mine your demographic information, and it'll use that data to more precisely target advertising. That advertising will be more intrusive than before, too, because we're too good at ignoring ads.
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I have desided that Insted of buying one of these I'm gunna buy gta5, when I'm bord of that buy a ps3 and gt6. Then deside which new console is best once they've been out for a while