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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Flintymutt on 29 May 2013, 12:04
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Simple question. Why the premium price tag for Oryx over Pure?
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Cos they can? I can't think of any logical reason.
My Dad bought a new Focus last year and also opted for a "special" paint, a metallic red, costing double regular metallics, which Ford used in all their marketing campaigns for the new Focus. VW have also used Oryx in all their ads, so maybe that's something to do with it.
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Good question. You got to think about the costs of maintaining it as well if later on you needed a respray.
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Simple question. Why the premium price tag for Oryx over Pure?
It's got powdered unicorn horn in it for the Pearl effect.
Excluding any ridiculously priced raw materials ro a different way of spraying, perhaps the constructed bodyshell is painted at another factory and shipped back over to the assembly factory in the same way as "Audi select" colours are (which cost an arm and a leg). If this was the case i'd expect Oryx adopters to be facing longer waiting than those with standard factory colours.
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When I totted up paint choices and pricing for different European markets I was given the impression that they charge whatever the market will bear.
Portugal pay 333 Euros for metallic paint, others pay up to 525 Euros and in the UK we're now paying £525.. In some markets pure white is free, whereas in others it's chargeable - same story with Urano Grey, solid black and Tornado Red - every market is different.
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As already said, because they can and because white is a popular colour now. By artificially elevating the price of Oryx White to a premium status, it makes the cheaper Pure White seem like a relative bargain (despite their flat white being free before). Of those who want a white car, some will go for Oryx, but most will go for Pure. Win-win for VW.
Personally, while I like the fact that Oryx is closer to Candy from a distance, I don't like the pearl and shimmer-effect up-close. OK, I haven't seen a full car dressed in it, but I've seen other makes with similar pearl white, and it gives it a bit of a feminine look if you ask me!
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I think it is down to demand and supply.
More and more people like white, so let's put the price up and make some money out of it.
I have seen a car in oryx white and it did look very good.
Would I pay £900 for it..... No
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Well I've gone for Oryx, flat white needs a bit of pop and sparkle IMO, but I had a pearl white Merc recently too and I'm well happy with my feminine side! Does my bum look fat in this miniskirt? :grin: :whistle:
Pearl paint costs more to make, it's a fact. My friend runs a car restoration business and some of the special paints like pearl cost hugely more than a standard paint to buy. As someone else said, it may be finished by a different shop so there is additional labour to consider as well.
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Tell you what, I'd love to see a side-by-side photo for comparison. (Anyone good in Photoshop?)
Personally I like the Oryx White, and I'm not ar$ed about it looking feminine, but I just couldn't part with £900 for it.
Each to their own eh :wink:
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Pearl paint costs more to make, it's a fact.
Yeah about £30 more for a cars worth.
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I saw it up close and had to be told it was oryx. Could not tell the difference. Mental to pay for it IMO.
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Well, I had plenty of time to check it out at Paris and I was impressed. You pay your money...
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One of the reasons I changed from DPB to Oryx is because almost all of the early promotional videos and photos showed the car in that colour and it looked great.
Having never seen the car in any other colour by that point it was a safe, albeit expensive option to choose.
My next door neighbour has a Polo in White that really looks so similar to my Scirocco in White that it is going to be nice to have something a bit special that not many people have selected.
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Like already said, you pay your money... I've bought options that some will baulk at, but as long as you are happy that's all that matters. If Oryx were to cost the same as regular metallics and pearls, I might have considered it, though I'm still not sold on the oyster-shell look in the light..bit too feminine. At almost a grand, on something that adds no functionality, just like the 19" wheels, no chance!
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At almost a grand, on something that adds no functionality, just like the 19" wheels, no chance!
Those 19 inch wheels look the biz though. During my daily spec uncertainty I keep wondering if I should take the sunroof off and put them on instead. Might bring my BW forward too! haha.
So far I've resisted the temptation to make changes though.
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Those 19 inch wheels look the biz though. During my daily spec uncertainty I keep wondering if I should take the sunroof off and put them on instead. Might bring my BW forward too! haha.
So far I've resisted the temptation to make changes though.
Here's the thing, I don't think they look the biz at all - way too busy for such a small car, and they aren't going to do the ride any favours. Personally, I'd stick with the sunroof, or actually, just remove that, save cash, reduce kerb weight, and enjoy being cocooned inside that lush cabin! :grin:
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Day I turned up to university one of the first people I met was this french dude who had just moved in down the hall. Was discussing the weather and he says deadpan "In La France we have this thing we call, how do you say, the "Sun"? It is this big yellow ball in the sky, you have heard of it no?".
Perhaps I should take his point and dump the sunroof. But I do miss not picking that option on my current car. Might be what is holding up my build, but would it really come forward or is it forever stuck in September hell? Hmm, choices choices.
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Day I turned up to university one of the first people I met was this french dude who had just moved in down the hall. Was discussing the weather and he says deadpan "In La France we have this thing we call, how do you say, the "Sun"? It is this big yellow ball in the sky, you have heard of it no?".
Perhaps I should take his point and dump the sunroof. But I do miss not picking that option on my current car. Might be what is holding up my build, but would it really come forward or is it forever stuck in September hell? Hmm, choices choices.
Haha, well these past few days where I live have been gorgeous! I've had used cars with a sunroof before, but never been bothered enough to spec one on new cars. Certainly inside the GTI with it's black roof lining, I prefer to feel completely closed in. I know the sunroof has a shade across it, but anyway... Don't get rid of it just to potentially bump the car up the queue, but personally I'd dump it, save your cash, and improve your 0-60 time and MPG in the process ;)
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Anyone know how much of a difference it makes to 0-60 or MPG? I'm imagining its minimal since it can't weight all that much can it? Surely plonking a passenger in the car would have, I don't know, double the effect?
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In before anyone says "that depends on how fat the passenger is!"
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At almost a grand, on something that adds no functionality, just like the 19" wheels, no chance!
Those 19 inch wheels look the biz though. During my daily spec uncertainty I keep wondering if I should take the sunroof off and put them on instead. Might bring my BW forward too! haha.
So far I've resisted the temptation to make changes though.
My X-Trail has the panoramic roof and the amount of natural light is awesome. That's why I have specced it for my GTD. Most definitely worth it. Makes the interior seem bigger IMO.
And I have to say the 19" wheels do not suit the clean lines of the mark 7. Much prefer the nogaros's and the GTI's rims.
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Anyone know how much of a difference it makes to 0-60 or MPG? I'm imagining its minimal since it can't weight all that much can it? Surely plonking a passenger in the car would have, I don't know, double the effect?
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In before anyone says "that depends on how fat the passenger is!"
It'll be negligible of course, depending more on passengers and how you drive! For me the decision would be purely monetary, but then I'm not bothered about having the interior flooded with light. If I wanted sun, I'd get a convertible!
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It'll be negligible of course, depending more on passengers and how you drive! For me the decision would be purely monetary, but then I'm not bothered about having the interior flooded with light. If I wanted sun, I'd get a convertible!
My wife wants a convertible. We had a convertible GT as a hire car in Switzerland and she kept posing for photos in it, haha. I assured her that unfortunately the GTI does not come in a convertible version. By the time I found out that you can get a GTI convertible, or an R for that matter, it was too late (fortunately!).
I'm still mystified as to why you can though. If you make a hot hatch a convertible all you've done is take away the "hatch" part. Isn't that just a cheap SLK? Seems odd to me.
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Sunroof has never bothered me, it's not as if you look up and out of it. The black headlining of the GTD/GTI isn't going to look that much lighter with a sunroof in. An easy grand not to spend for me.
The missus is now looking considering nearly new Beetle convertible (new shape) as well as A1 for her car if she ever learns to drive. She has been looking them over at every VW dealership visit made lately and I told her she can't have a new one as residuals are pretty poor on them for a VW (GFV = 36% :sick:). Makes a much better nearly new buy.
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Sunroof has never bothered me, it's not as if you look up and out of it. The black headlining of the GTD/GTI isn't going to look that much lighter with a sunroof in. An easy grand not to spend for me.
The missus is now looking considering nearly new Beetle convertible (new shape) as well as A1 for her car if she ever learns to drive. She has been looking them over at every VW dealership visit made lately and I told her she can't have a new one as residuals are pretty poor on them for a VW (GFV = 36% :sick:). Makes a much better nearly new buy.
I think you should try and dissuade her from the Beetle because as you say the residuals are poor and reviews are not too hot either. The A1 will hold it's value far better and imo it's a far nicer car.
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I think you should try and dissuade her from the Beetle because as you say the residuals are poor and reviews are not too hot either. The A1 will hold it's value far better and imo it's a far nicer car.
I don't mind poor residuals if i'm buying 2nd hand and someone else has already lost 25% of the sticker price. Bad reviews? Maybe down to being built in Mexico? I wonder whether it just missed out on being MQB platform.
A1 residuals don't look amazing if GFV is anything to go by (same as an average Golf - 47%, not a patch on a GTI/GTD), or maybe Audi are just being ultra cautious with their GFV.
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I think you should try and dissuade her from the Beetle because as you say the residuals are poor and reviews are not too hot either. The A1 will hold it's value far better and imo it's a far nicer car.
I don't mind poor residuals if i'm buying 2nd hand and someone else has already lost 25% of the sticker price. Bad reviews? Maybe down to being built in Mexico? I wonder whether it just missed out on being MQB platform.
A1 residuals don't look amazing if GFV is anything to go by (same as an average Golf - 47%, not a patch on a GTI/GTD), or maybe Audi are just being ultra cautious with their GFV.
I'm maybe biased because I have one in the household but I would get her to consider the Mini Cooper as well. Cracking little car
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I'm maybe biased because I have one in the household but I would get her to consider the Mini Cooper as well. Cracking little car
I did suggest a mini, a proper mini mind, not one of these fat mini, estate mini "countryman" or slopey 1/2 roof coupe mini. She's not keen on a mini. Not sure how the residuals are on those now there are so many out there used beyond the dealership network - you usually get the best resale for all cars as one of the first sellers when there are hardly any used exaples out there. I got 81% of list price back for my first scirocco at 2 years old - hard to beat, current Roc looking to retain 64% at just over 2 years old (27 months) come swapover time for GTD (not as good now there are more out there).
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I'm maybe biased because I have one in the household but I would get her to consider the Mini Cooper as well. Cracking little car
I did suggest a mini, a proper mini mind, not one of these fat mini, estate mini "countryman" or slopey 1/2 roof coupe mini. She's not keen on a mini. Not sure how the residuals are on those now there are so many out there used beyond the dealership network - you usually get the best resale for all cars as one of the first sellers when there are hardly any used exaples out there. I got 81% of list price back for my first scirocco at 2 years old - hard to beat, current Roc looking to retain 64% at just over 2 years old (27 months) come swapover time for GTD (not as good now there are more out there).
I was very anti mini, my mrs was always saying she wanted one. Took a test drive and I did a full 180 about turn, cracking little cars and so much fun to drive. She has the Cooper 1.6 petrol and it's brilliant, just the right amount of power to be able to use most of it without getting too silly. Handling is so much fun too.
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I had the second generation R56 Cooper (58 plate). I found it a bit underpowered (120hp), though the handling was great. It was a lot tubbier than the first-generation one I had (52 plate) and the ergonomics inside were awful (especially the automatic A/C). Mine was particularly unreliable, which has put me off Minis for life (so I went back to Golfs - much happier).
The non-hatchback Minis are uniformly awful - Coupe, Countryman, Paceman, Clubman. The Countryman is almost as hideous as the BMW X5. Whoever heard of a Mini with five doors?
The A1 is a nice car, especially in white.
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Jules: It wouldn't be a white one, the mssus is not a fan of white, and I think the A1's white is a creamy white. There is a lovely S-line 1.4TSI in Grey (Daytona Pearl Grey I think) parked up at Aldi every time we go (must be the managers car). Those s-line sports seats look amazing.
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Jules: It wouldn't be a white one, the mssus is not a fan of white, and I think the A1's white is a creamy white.
It has 2 whites. Amalfi white that comes free and is creamy or the Glacier white which is a paid option and has metallic flakes in it. Possibly a bit like the Oryx white.