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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 24 May 2013, 08:23

Title: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Sootchucker on 24 May 2013, 08:23
Was browsing over at Motor Talk.de (just to see if there was any concrete information on when they would start getting their GTD's delivered), and came across this comment:

"I was again today with my brother who works for VW in Wolfsburg. One of his service technicians just came back from the course on the GTI / GTD and where he could test the GTD / GTI and was trained on it technically. He was absolutely thrilled with the S & S (Sight and Sound) package and said that with the sound actuator, the GTD sounds more like a V8, and also significantly better than the GTI!"

I know the sound is artificial, but as we don't get the "Sight and Sound" package in the UK (as may parts of it are standard fitment), does anyone know if the exhaust sound actuator will be standard fitment here ?
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: AAddict on 24 May 2013, 08:27
I don't know, but I would guess yes. I think the older 170 engined cars have it, well the Scirocco does for sure.
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: OF1 on 24 May 2013, 08:41
I'd never heard of this before. Sounds brilliant.

So does this mean the GTD will have some sort of exhaust to make it sound really meaty?
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Sootchucker on 24 May 2013, 08:42
Not really an exhaust par se, it's a sound generator that artificially creates the sound in the cabin. VW have been using them for some time.
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 08:47
I'd never heard of this before. Sounds brilliant.

So does this mean the GTD will have some sort of exhaust to make it sound really meaty?

No, just potentially a box of tricks and sound piped into the cabin to make it sound artificially "better".  Never mind how it sounds from the outside to passers-by...   :grin:
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 08:48
Norbreck: The actuator is standard on the 170TDI Scirocco, can't see why they would leave it off the GTD. It does sound great, my dad described it as "growly" when he first had a go in my car.
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 08:50
I'd never heard of this before. Sounds brilliant.

So does this mean the GTD will have some sort of exhaust to make it sound really meaty?

No, just potentially a box of tricks and sound piped into the cabin to make it sound artificially "better".  Never mind how it sounds from the outside to passers-by...   :grin:

I wish it sounded the same on the outside as it does on the inside. The 140TDI scirocco sounds like a bag of hammers in comparison, but they both sound the same on the outside!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Valenni on 24 May 2013, 09:10
This sounds like it's true. The new LEON FR TDI has whats called a 'sound actuator' which sends a 'GTI' like sound through the speakers to give the impression that your not driving an oil burner.
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 24 May 2013, 09:15
Trouble is we'll still sound like a Massey Ferguson when we pull up at a set of lights :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: OF1 on 24 May 2013, 09:45
Is it sad that because of this sound device i'm actually looking forward to car even more?

I'm a sucker for (Fake) engine noises.
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Valenni on 24 May 2013, 09:55
Is it sad that because of this sound device i'm actually looking forward to car even more?

I'm a sucker for (Fake) engine noises.

Not sad at all! Looking forward to it myself.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: p3asa on 24 May 2013, 10:22
VW spend all that money on soundproofing then introduce exhaust noise!!! Brilliant.  :grin:
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 24 May 2013, 10:34
Here's a thought... why don't VW be the first and just make the 4 pot derv sound nice* without tricks and gimmicks :wink:

* thats if it is possible to make a 4 pot derv sound decent (engineering wise)
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 10:51
Hawaii: Its probably the most refined one out there - noticeably quieter and more uniform at tickover than the BMW 2.0 unit. I think they would have to rewrite the book on diesel engines to get it to actually sound like a 2.0TSI. There are loads of engineering tweaks that VW have done over the years to minimise diesel clatter. They name a lot of them in their technical explanations for TDI technology (I can't think of any off the top of my head).
Title: Re: Interesting comment from German forum on the GTD....
Post by: Movi on 24 May 2013, 12:47
I am sure it will - my mk6 gtd has it.