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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: matchboy on 23 May 2013, 13:47

Title: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: matchboy on 23 May 2013, 13:47
Has anyone found any pics of the Discover Navigation System screen, ie. the 5.8" screen?  All the GTI's I've seen (pics not in person!! :laugh:) have had the DNS Pro ie. the 8" screen.

Basically, what I'm after is a direct picture comparison to see what the 'normal' screen will looks like.  Particularly as I assume all the demos will have the 8" screen. :smiley:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 23 May 2013, 14:06
Has anyone found any pics of the Discover Navigation System screen, ie. the 5.8" screen?  All the GTI's I've seen (pics not in person!! :laugh:) have had the DNS Pro ie. the 8" screen.

Basically, what I'm after is a direct picture comparison to see what the 'normal' screen will looks like.  Particularly as I assume all the demos will have the 8" screen. :smiley:

You took the words right out of my mouth. I too would really like to see a side-by-side comparison (8" & 5.8" screens). I'm too tight to stump up £1,750 Discover Pro when I have a £99 TomTom (not quite the same I know, but you get the gist).

Does the 5.8" screen have the proximity sensor?
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 23 May 2013, 14:46
Scroll down to the blue one here:

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24

I'm not being lazy, just on my phone!
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: matchboy on 23 May 2013, 14:59
Excellent, thanks!!  I'm happy with that size screen!

As an aside, what a shame you can't have that rising blue as a colour - looks amazing!
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 15:15
The smaller one has the proximity sensor too.
I have ordered the smaller Nav system for my GTI and I'm expecting delivery in the next week or 10 days. I'll post a few pics of the navigation when I see it.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Sootchucker on 23 May 2013, 15:17
Here's a direct comparison. Nav pro on the left, and discover media on the right

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3757/8791871871_f57342f35e_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8791871871/)
VW Navigation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8791871871/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: matchboy on 23 May 2013, 15:18
Norbreck, as usual, your pictures are on a different level - thanks!!
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: AAddict on 23 May 2013, 15:23
Here's a direct comparison. Nav pro on the left, and discover media on the right

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3757/8791871871_f57342f35e_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8791871871/)
VW Navigation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8791871871/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Only a bloke would pay £1725 for 2"
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: benjyyy on 23 May 2013, 15:28
Here's a direct comparison. Nav pro on the left, and discover media on the right

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3757/8791871871_f57342f35e_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8791871871/)
VW Navigation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8791871871/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Only a bloke would pay £1725 for 2"

Even though its only women who get any practical use out of it! ;)
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 23 May 2013, 16:21
Haha, don't forget it's an extra 2" and in 3D  :grin:  Us cheapskates with basic nav have to make do with a flat one...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Jimble on 23 May 2013, 16:33
Haha, don't forget it's an extra 2" and in 3D  :grin:  Us cheapskates with basic nav have to make do with a flat one...  :whistle:

And i can watch dvd's whilst waiting for the wife to get out of work!! :drool:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 23 May 2013, 16:54
And i can watch dvd's whilst waiting for the wife to get out of work!! :drool:

Very true...that'll really get her going over the extra 2"  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Sootchucker on 23 May 2013, 17:07
......and sexual innuendos aside  :grin:, as I understand it the main differences between the Discover Media and Nav Pro are:

Discover Media

5.8" Touch Screen with 400x 240 Pixel Resolution
2D/2.5D map navigation (Europe) with voice control
CD drive MP3/WMA
Music playback from MP3, WMA, AAC files with title display from SD and AUX IN
USB, AUX-IN, SD (2x) (Aux and USB require optional connection cable) - only 1 SD card available for music, other SD card contains Map data
DAB, FM and AM radio reception
4x20 watt output (front and rear speakers)
Bluetooth connection for phone and media (HFP, A2DP *, AVRCP **)

Discover Nav Pro

8.0" touchscreen colour display with 800 x 480 Resolution
Faster 3d Display Engine (graphics Chip)
3D map navigation (Europe) with advanced voice control
DVD Audio/Video
Film playback from AVI, MPEG, Divx, H.246, and DVD from SD, USB and DVD data carriers
Music playback from MP3, WMA, AAC files with title display from SD and AUX IN
Gracenote database, podcast playback and jukebox
Internal 64GB memory as SSD - (Solid State Hard Drive)  - 30GB can be used for music, etc.
USB, AUX-IN, SD (2x) - both SD cards available at all times (maps are stored on the HDD)
DAB, FM and AM radio reception
4x20 watt output (front and rear speakers)
Bluetooth connection for phone and media (HFP, A2DP *, AVRCP **)
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 May 2013, 17:08
And i can watch dvd's whilst waiting for the wife to get out of work!! :drool:

Very true...that'll really get her going over the extra 2"  :grin:

LOL.

Anyway, technically I think its something like an extra 7 square inches, since its area we're talking about rather than length.  And its an extra £990 rather than £1725 because the basic nav isn't free. :nerd:  I agree its pricey, very pricey even.  However, it was something I really wanted and didn't even question adding, along with the DSG.  Controversial I know!...but that's what I wanted.

That said, I wish they'd stop overcharging for things like sat nav.  The added functionality over the non sat nav is no more than you'd get for a mid range TomTom or Garmin unit.  So really what I'm paying for is the integration and the large screen, and its costing about 5x what it seems like its worth.  I suppose TomTom ship many times larger volume though, and that is where the cost comes down.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 17:51
Agreed... manufacturers (well VW anyway) charge an insane premium for Sat Nav systems. It's crazy, considering every £50 smartphone has some kind of NAV / GPS built in these days!

I have the RNS 510 in my current car and while it looks great and the clean integration is lovely, the Google Maps on my iPhone is probably a more reliable source of maps! The good thing is, my RNS still attracts a premium 2nd hand, so I can take that out of the car before trading in and easily sell it separately.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 23 May 2013, 18:56
To be honest, me adding even the basic Sat Nav was a was a late considered addition.  I rarely use nav anyway, but appreciate the integration.  The size of the screen is irrelevant to me - it's larger than my TomTom, and not something I'll spend my time staring at while driving!
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: matchboy on 23 May 2013, 19:21
To be honest, me adding even the basic Sat Nav was a was a late considered addition.  I rarely use nav anyway, but appreciate the integration.  The size of the screen is irrelevant to me - it's larger than my TomTom, and not something I'll spend my time staring at while driving!

Exactly the same for me.  I don't use sat nav that often, but i thought it was nice to have it but not at the Pro prices.  Plus, looking at the spec comparison posted earlier, the extra stuff is all add ons that i won't ever use.  Saying that, the bigger screen does look good  :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: AAddict on 23 May 2013, 19:22
To be honest, me adding even the basic Sat Nav was a was a late considered addition.  I rarely use nav anyway, but appreciate the integration.  The size of the screen is irrelevant to me - it's larger than my TomTom, and not something I'll spend my time staring at while driving!

Exactly the same for me.  I don't use sat nav that often, but i thought it was nice to have it but not at the Pro prices.  Plus, looking at the spec comparison posted earlier, the extra stuff is all add ons that i won't ever use.  Saying that, the bigger screen does look good  :laugh:

If you could have had the bigger screen without Nav or SSD for a lower price I might have gone for it.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 23 May 2013, 19:33
Exactly the same for me.  I don't use sat nav that often, but i thought it was nice to have it but not at the Pro prices.  Plus, looking at the spec comparison posted earlier, the extra stuff is all add ons that i won't ever use.  Saying that, the bigger screen does look good  :laugh:

Aye, it's features for the sake of it to charge an extra grand to help justify the larger screen that costs peanuts anyway!  Does look nice, but not at that price.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: dippy_x on 23 May 2013, 19:42
As sad as it may seem,  this is what I spent my evening investigating last night!  There is another good comparison pic at:

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?138796-Golf-MK7-Anyone-quot-SEEN-quot-the-standard-SAT-NAV-yet-!!&p=757043#post757043 (http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?138796-Golf-MK7-Anyone-quot-SEEN-quot-the-standard-SAT-NAV-yet-!!&p=757043#post757043)

I would have loved to have had an option just for the bigger screen.  Not interested in the sat nav or DVD player stuff but along with the larger screen size you are getting double the resolution - which I imagine will make a big difference for things like the reverse camera.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: matchboy on 23 May 2013, 19:49
Agree, a grand is a lot of money for a bigger screen!!
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: ajmoir36 on 23 May 2013, 20:14
Especially as the original one is smaller than the RCD510's screen, there is the 20% cost cutting.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 May 2013, 20:22
I'll tell you what does bother me though.  Why does the on button rotate with the volume control?  That's just stupid and makes it look like the button is put on upside down at the factory or something.  Could they not have made a mechanism where the side rotates but the face remains upright like every other button of this kind anywhere in the world ever...?. :huh:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Jules Winfield on 23 May 2013, 20:37
I'll tell you what does bother me though.  Why does the on button rotate with the volume control?  That's just stupid and makes it look like the button is put on upside down at the factory or something.  Could they not have made a mechanism where the side rotates but the face remains upright like every other button of this kind anywhere in the world ever...?. :huh:

The RCD 510 (not nav) is the same.  I don't use the volume button to change the volume on the unit as the symbol on the button rotates with the button.  This clashes with my OCD as it makes the car look untidy.  So I use the steering wheel exclusively.

If Citroen can engineer a steering wheel where the centre bit with all of its buttons stays in the same orientation, why can't VW do the same with a volume button?
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Golf7 on 23 May 2013, 21:06
I'll tell you what does bother me though.  Why does the on button rotate with the volume control?  That's just stupid and makes it look like the button is put on upside down at the factory or something.  Could they not have made a mechanism where the side rotates but the face remains upright like every other button of this kind anywhere in the world ever...?. :huh:


Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I'm so glad that I am not the only person that gets extremely annoyed with this!! I've had two Passats, currently in an Audi A3, and got a Golf on order to replace it. This has always driven me mad and my Mrs, my boss, and any other passenger in my car take the micky something rotten as I have banned the use of the volume dial, and rely solely on the steering wheel controls. I can't stand it when the power symbol is not upright. To make matters worse, in the A3 it doesn't actually settle completely straight, it stops in a groove either slightly to the left or slightly to the right.   :angry:

I think I need help   :grin:

Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 23 May 2013, 21:21
I'll tell you what does bother me though.  Why does the on button rotate with the volume control?  That's just stupid and makes it look like the button is put on upside down at the factory or something.  Could they not have made a mechanism where the side rotates but the face remains upright like every other button of this kind anywhere in the world ever...?. :huh:


Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I'm so glad that I am not the only person that gets extremely annoyed with this!! I've had two Passats, currently in an Audi A3, and got a Golf on order to replace it. This has always driven me mad and my Mrs, my boss, and any other passenger in my car take the micky something rotten as I have banned the use of the volume dial, and rely solely on the steering wheel controls. I can't stand it when the power symbol is not upright. To make matters worse, in the A3 it doesn't actually settle completely straight, it stops in a groove either slightly to the left or slightly to the right.   :angry:

I think I need help   :grin:

So funny this, I'm exactly the same. My volume button has to be pointing north and at perfect right angles to keep me from going nuts :laugh:

Defo a bit OCD.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: SF-GTD on 23 May 2013, 21:45
To make matters worse, in the A3 it doesn't actually settle completely straight, it stops in a groove either slightly to the left or slightly to the right.   :angry:

Oh my God!  I'm so glad I'm not alone with this level of OCD!
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Sootchucker on 23 May 2013, 22:11
you all need help..............
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: mcmaddy on 23 May 2013, 22:12
doesn't everyone make the power button point north and shout at anyone who gets within three inches of touching it. for gods sake I have important buttons on the steering wheel to make things louder !!! :evil:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Running Man on 23 May 2013, 22:43
Sat nav is great.

Either the less expensive one or the more expense pro nav one.

I realty find the one on my MK 6 very good,
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 08:34
I'm also a bit OC-not-D in the button rotation stakes!  I also can't stand odd numbers in my temperature settings  :evil:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: jsybrian on 24 May 2013, 08:41
Ditto that why would you want 21.5 also I like all knobs straight i think its an engineering thing.
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: CraigW on 24 May 2013, 10:20
Bloody hell! It must take you guys about an hour to leave the house in the mornings making sure everything is symmetrical and lined up correctly  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Jules Winfield on 24 May 2013, 10:46
Does anyone else get annoyed that their wheel centre caps aren't all aligned the same?
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Sootchucker on 24 May 2013, 10:55
NO  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 13:00
Does anyone else get annoyed that their wheel centre caps aren't all aligned the same?

Yes, or if the alloys are not all at the same angle of rotation! :grin:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 13:57
Does anyone else get annoyed that their wheel centre caps aren't all aligned the same?

Yes, or if the alloys are not all at the same angle of rotation! :grin:

Are you referring to the axe heads?
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 14:07
Are you referring to the axe heads?

No, I just mean on a 5 spoke wheel in general, if one has a spoke at 12 o' clock, and the other wheel at 1 o' clock, so different orientations on the same side!  :grin:
Title: Re: Discover Navigation System screen
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 14:52
Are you referring to the axe heads?

No, I just mean on a 5 spoke wheel in general, if one has a spoke at 12 o' clock, and the other wheel at 1 o' clock, so different orientations on the same side!  :grin:

Dude.

I dunno what to say... :huh: