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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 02:46

Title: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 02:46
Right i changed my master cylinder the weekend but it still hits the floor and dose not come up when i first get in the car it only seems to come bk up after pumping it for about 30secs (have to bring it bk up with my foot for the first cople of times ) i am going to try and bleed the system again the weekend but if i still have no luck i will have to change the slave cylinder  :sad: i was wondering how hard is it to take a gear box out of a golf as i cant seem to find anyone on hear that has put a HOW TO (DIY) on how to take one out i have a mk4 golf 1.8t AUQ 6speed if any one has a link to a how to that would be brill as i have searched google and have no luck :( 
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: jamie16v on 22 May 2013, 10:04
i dont think it`s a gearbox out job to change the slave cylinder. if i remember correctly its bolted to the outside of the gearbox near the gear shift linkage.
i could be terribly wrong again though..lol
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 13:21
i dont think it`s a gearbox out job to change the slave cylinder. if i remember correctly its bolted to the outside of the gearbox near the gear shift linkage.
i could be terribly wrong again though..lol

O really when u was searching to find out about the clutch ppl was saying it could be the clucth master cylinder or slave and if its the slave the box has to come out i hope u are right tho lol
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: jamie16v on 22 May 2013, 13:32
i`m probably wrong tbh, ive had the box out of my 5speed agu before but can`t 100% remember..
someone will probably come along with the correct answer soon enough  :wink:
EDIT: just checked my 02j box and the slave cylinder IS bolted to the outside with 2x 10mm bolts.
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 13:40
If it is jut bolted on the outside i will be so happy lol i dont fancy taking the box out cus if i was going to take the box out i was going to do the clutch at the same time and that would of been more money lol
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: jamie16v on 22 May 2013, 13:56
Don`t forget, yours is the 6 speed box, so i`m not sure how they differ  :undecided:
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 14:15
Hopfully some one can tell me on hear  :grin:
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: Granta Gti on 22 May 2013, 14:37
its bolted on the outside. look to see if its leaking brake fluid or if your break fluid level is low. changing them is quite easy its bleeding them that is quite a pain!
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 15:00
Do u no of a link on a how to change a slave cylinder ? I changed the master cylinder last week do u think i just need to bleed it better ? If so what is the best way to bleed it ?
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: jamie16v on 22 May 2013, 15:48
buy one of them gunson ez bleed kits.. theyre pretty good!!
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 15:51
This one ? http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductMobileDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10001&productId=204645&categoryId=255216&langId=-1
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: jamie16v on 22 May 2013, 17:59
yep
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: mar_k on 22 May 2013, 20:42
Its on the inside of the 6-speed box's.

Its part of the release bearing, Its uses a CSC. I have just replaced the one in my LCR and its a Gearbox off job.


How are you trying to bleed the system?

You can gravity bleed them, just crack the nipple and let the fluid drain through without pressing the pedal,
Pull the pedal up and leave it up with the nipple cracked. Once fluid comes out tighten it up.
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: jamie16v on 22 May 2013, 20:46
Its on the inside of the 6-speed box's.
oh dear!  :sad:
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 22:23
Its on the inside of the 6-speed box's.

Its part of the release bearing, Its uses a CSC. I have just replaced the one in my LCR and its a Gearbox off job.


How are you trying to bleed the system?

You can gravity bleed them, just crack the nipple and let the fluid drain through without pressing the pedal,
Pull the pedal up and leave it up with the nipple cracked. Once fluid comes out tighten it up.

Awww not good lol is it hard to take the box out ?

I will try doing the gravity bleeding way tomoro if not will try the the easy bleed kit but if they dont work i am guessing the slave will have to be changed
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: mar_k on 22 May 2013, 22:26
The easybleed takes 2 minutes to bleed, Gravity bleeding will work but can take time so be patient.

Its harder to remove the 6 speed box due to it being larger.

Get the car up as high as you can, that will help loads. Its pig heavy so make sure you have someone to help you
lift the bugger back in.
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: Granta Gti on 22 May 2013, 22:32
I did a diesel 6 speed and that was on the outside so thought the petrol ones will be similar, sorry! Mk4 gearboxes came out a lot easier if you get the subframe out the way, are you doing it on the drive?
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: daz207 on 22 May 2013, 22:37
How long is a long time ? Lol i will be going it on the drive way is there a link on how to take a box out ?
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: mar_k on 22 May 2013, 22:38
I did a diesel 6 speed and that was on the outside so thought the petrol ones will be similar, sorry! Mk4 gearboxes came out a lot easier if you get the subframe out the way, are you doing it on the drive?


It is possible that I'm wrong.
I am basing this on my Cupra R 6 speed which I think is the same as the golf 6 speed?

Its easy to identify which is fitted by looking at the gearbox.


also I would agree it would be easier to remove the subframe,

I unbolted mine and pushed it backwards a bit but can be done without dropping it.


Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: Granta Gti on 22 May 2013, 22:40
I don't know cause I have never seen a concentric slave on a vag car they mainly on ford an Volvos
Title: Re: Taking a gear box out ?
Post by: mar_k on 23 May 2013, 07:44
can the op post a picture of where the hydraulic line connects to the gear box?