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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mcmaddy on 18 May 2013, 18:22
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Has anyone opted for the premium phone kit?
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Why would you?
Seems a rather expensive, not very useful option to me.
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Why would you?
Seems a rather expensive, not very useful option to me.
Agreed. Plus doesn't work properly with the iPhone so a totally pointless option.
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Would it not give you the car net option? And what about the people who have decent phones and not I phones :evil:
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And what about the people who have decent phones and not I phones :evil:
Ha!!
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Would it not give you the car net option? And what about the people who have decent phones and not I phones :evil:
Actually mcmaddy is right, this is an interesting question.
If you do not get premium phone then what phone options do you have?
- Do you get the induction aerial?
- Can your phone share phone book?
- Make calls with voice activation?
- Play music from the phone?
- Charge the phone?
Can you upgrade to premium phone later on if CarNet actually becomes available here?
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I was hoping it might just be an upgraded Bluetooth unit but I can't find much info at the minute.
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Would it not give you the car net option? And what about the people who have decent phones and not I phones :evil:
Actually mcmaddy is right, this is an interesting question.
If you do not get premium phone then what phone options do you have?
- Do you get the induction aerial?
- Can your phone share phone book?
- Make calls with voice activation?
- Play music from the phone?
- Charge the phone?
Can you upgrade to premium phone later on if CarNet actually becomes available here?
Assuming the standard bluetooth is anything like the previous generations then yes to all of the above except the induction aerial.
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You will probably need a different roof aerial if you want to upgrade to a premium set up later.
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Bit more than that I'm afraid bud. You would ,need the centre console inductive plate and integrated electronics, USB charging set, boot mounted phone electronics module and roof aerial.
Guess this wouldn't be cheap or easy to retrofit ?
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No doesn't seem like it. makes ordering it from new look better now but would it be really worth it. with mobile coverage in this country ropey at best in a car you wouldn't be able to use the Google maps for instance.
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Suppose it depends who your provider is really. My iPhone is a work phone, so I don't get a choice of providers and its currently Vodafone. Near to work it s fine, however, I do travel all over the country with my job, and have to say Vodafone is patchy at best. Quite offen if I'm in a hotel room without local wifi, my phone can loose all signal quite often.
Conversely, work also provide us with a small Mifi unit from Three, and have to say, this works brilliantly, and only one place in the country so far have I not been above to get a good 3G signal (apart of course from the very northern parts of Scotland), and that's Sevenoaks ?
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I've "gone for it" only because I have to for the climate screen. I'm changing my iPhone to something else in October anyway so the fact that rSAP is not supported by iPhone is not really a big deal in the scheme of things.
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Been researching the whole rSAP thing in a bid to get my company to get me an rSAP mobile, which would mean I could order the premium car kit and use it. The only other 2 models available to us seem to be the Samsung Galaxy S3 and the Nokia Lumia 920, but our IT tell me neither have rSAP capability (although apparently the S III can be just made to work with a frig, but it's flaky.)
This does beg the question, if Apple's main competitors in the Smartphone arena, have dropped rSAP compatibility from their latest phones (which is very surprising seeing as rSAP is a Nokia invention), then why are car manufacturers still producing car kits for this protocol, when it seems the mobile industry is moving away from it.
My worry would be with this trend, that in one or two years time, with updates to all the major phones, that no one will support rSAP, meaning that a £400 accessory becomes unusable, or you will forced to use an older phone, or a special one for car use only.
Please note, I'm not "into" mobiles so am only reporting what has been told to me or what I have found on the internet.
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I can't say for sure how he does it (native or via an app), but my mate has an S3 hooked up to his car via rSAP and it just works - not flaky at all.
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Samsung galaxy s3 is definitely rsap compatible as is the s2&s4. if you don't get the premium phone kit is the standard Bluetooth that bad? what's the advantages apart from car net.
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Samsung galaxy s3 is definitely rsap compatible as is the s2&s4. if you don't get the premium phone kit is the standard Bluetooth that bad? what's the advantages apart from car net.
Improved phone reception via car aerial, and ability to have texts read out and sent, plus a few others I'm sure. This option is certainly one that I wouldn't bother with as a stand-alone option, but if I have it, I'll get a phone that uses it! Getting bored of the iPhone and Apples closed-architecture anyway.
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Old thread i know, im sorry but if you dont spec the premium phone kit will you still be able to get the wlan function working through your phone provider. i know it wont have a great signal but will it work?
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Mcmaddy: As far as I know (and stand to be corrected), the WLAN feature you refer to is only available as part of what VW call "Car Net" option and whilst available in Germany, AFAIK, it's not yet available in the UK. I also understand it only works with the Discover Nav Pro.
The "Car Net" is the addition that as well as giving you a WLAN inside the car also provides On-line live Traffic Information, Points of Interest search, Google street view and Google Earth and is a €100 option from Germany (providing you have Nav Pro and Advanced Phone package). It's basically the VW version of Audi's "Connect" system.
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Mcmaddy: As far as I know (and stand to be corrected), the WLAN feature you refer to is only available as part of what VW call "Car Net" option and whilst available in Germany, AFAIK, it's not yet available in the UK. I also understand it only works with the Discover Nav Pro.
The "Car Net" is the addition that as well as giving you a WLAN inside the car also provides On-line live Traffic Information, Points of Interest search, Google street view and Google Earth and is a €100 option from Germany (providing you have Nav Pro and Advanced Phone package). It's basically the VW version of Audi's "Connect" system.
I heard the same but I'm not sure about the accuracy of it. For example, the demo I tried clearly had up-to-date traffic data on its Pro Nav unit. I'm pretty sure it did not have advanced phone prep. In fact it would have been built before the MY14 changes that made that option available.
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The Discover Nav Pro comes with TMC Pro, is that not what the car was using ?
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Ive ordered the nav pro and apart from the phone connecting to the roof aerial i cant see what else you would need. If you can get a good enough reception from your own phone network then surely it would work, or am i missing something? Looks like a good idea that you can get google maps etc as youd never need to pay for your map updates after the three years has expired.
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rSap effectively copies your SIM card details into the car, the car then makes the calls and data connections instead of the phone.
This allows the car to make data connections to retrieve the internet data using your account with the network provider.
It remains to be seen if the car can connect and use data via the phone without the rSap - i.e. via a Bluetooth or WLAN connection to the phone.
I have the Nav Pro coming without the advanced phone - so I'm hoping I can get it working.
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If its only a case of the phone not connecting to the roof mounted aerial then if you can get a good enough signal on your phone then it shouldnt be a problem.
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There are also some changes to the Infotainment hardware as the Car Net / Premium phone prep units ship with a third slot in-between the 2 SD card slots in the glove box, which is the Sim card slot. I would wager there's also additional hardware and software inside this module to handle the creation of the WLAN network as well as the protocols for network streaming to the headunit that the standard Discover Pro Nav doesn't have.
Don't think it will be as simple as a quick bit of coding somehow which is probably why Car-Net is only available with premium phone package in Germany.
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hmm your right it probably wont work properly over here anyway :grin:
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It's one of those options that we've lived without all our lives, but now it's available we all want it and can't do without :grin: :grin: :grin:
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It's one of those options that we've lived without all our lives, but now it's available we all want it and can't do without :grin: :grin: :grin:
:grin: :laugh: :grin: