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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Waspy on 17 May 2013, 13:01

Title: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 17 May 2013, 13:01
Okay, so set of for work this morning, went into reverse okay, but wouldn't come out, no matter how hard I tried... Took the gater off for a quick look (was in a hurry) and the bit that stops it slipping into reverse instead of first is broken. Not sure how relevant that is though, as it wouldn't come out even when pushing down etc.

So, has anyone had this before, anyone fixed it before? Is it a new gearbox situation?

I didn't feel it was safe to reverse all the way to work  :grin: also did a quick search which wasn't very fruitful unfortunately.
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Craigwilson on 17 May 2013, 13:08
It means bad news, this happen to me as a result of no gearbox oil, it was stuck in reverse and the only way I could get it out was levering it out with a bar under the engine bay it still drives ok in forward gears and it will get you to where your going just don't park anywhere where you need to reverse out lol. Mine eventually just wouldn't go into reverse shortly before my gears started to crumble one at a time.
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 17 May 2013, 14:04
A new box then?

oh yay.
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Gambit on 17 May 2013, 19:05
Try and free it using selector on top of gearbox before assuming the worst
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 17 May 2013, 21:33
Try and free it using selector on top of gearbox before assuming the worst

Yeah, I did, stuck fast.
The shifter is in neutral now, but the car is still in reverse ...

So I guess I might as well ask in this thread rather than starting a new one. What's the best option in everyone's opinion? Get it refurbished ? Get a reasonable second hand one? Put a better one in (than the standard one)?

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Craigwilson on 18 May 2013, 12:07
You could do what I done and put a different box in with a longer 5th gear for lower revs.
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 18 May 2013, 12:47
You could do what I done and put a different box in with a longer 5th gear for lower revs.

That's an option, which box did you put in?

I'm thinking refurb is the best option atm, but it really depends how expensive other options are and the benefits they pose
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Gambit on 18 May 2013, 13:30
What car is it to begin with? 8v or 16v?

Did you try rocking the car while trying to release the selector?

Im guessing the car still rolls with clutch in?
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: jamiefin on 18 May 2013, 13:41
I had my old golf stuck in second I feared the worst all it was, was broken a gear linkage took my mechanic all of 5 mins to repair so might not be as bad as you think
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 18 May 2013, 13:47
Gambit - it is a 8v, and yeah I tried rocking it, didn't do anything, and yes, still rolls with clutch in.

Jamiefin - I will get it checked before I have any major work done, just trying to be ready for the worst.
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Craigwilson on 18 May 2013, 19:16
You could do what I done and put a different box in with a longer 5th gear for lower revs.

That's an option, which box did you put in?

I'm thinking refurb is the best option atm, but it really depends how expensive other options are and the benefits they pose
I put an ATH box in it, fantastic gearbox my original was an AUG.
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Craigwilson on 18 May 2013, 19:18
Here's a list of gearbox codes with the details of the box incase your thinking of buying one, just make sure the driveshafts are the same size etc.
http://www.rabbitgtipage.com/transmission.html
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Gambit on 18 May 2013, 20:32
Stick with an AUG box, if 5th really bothers you you can swap it out easy enough, it can even be done with the box still in the car. ATH aint a close ratio box.

Try to find someone local to look at it who knows something about mk2s could well be something quite simple
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 18 May 2013, 20:55
Yeah, I am actually pretty happy with the box (ratios etc), however changes could be a gamble at times and second crunched when cold, and now obviously it is stuck in reverse. So I think a refurb would be nice anyway. I will of course get it checked out first though

Thanks for all the help so far guys!
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 21 May 2013, 15:49
Okay, so I now have a new question for you all.

I just got into the car to turn it over, it has been stationary for 4 days now since it got stuck. I put the clutch in, started the engine and just for good measure gave the gear stick a quick wiggle, and well... it came straight out of reverse and I was able to select first and away it went.

Now, originally I thought the shifter had gone into neutral and left the box in reverse. However clearly it was always in reverse but felt like neutral as there was so much movement. I have no idea why suddenly it decided to come out, but I am bloody happy.

My actually question is why is the likely cause, and what can I do to prevent it happening again?
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Gambit on 21 May 2013, 16:38
is it the box, or the linkage is the issue? sounds more like the linkage, and more so the ball & cup pivot at the bottom of the gearstick.

id also be inclined to drain & replace the gearbox oil now.
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 21 May 2013, 16:46
is it the box, or the linkage is the issue? sounds more like the linkage, and more so the ball & cup pivot at the bottom of the gearstick.

id also be inclined to drain & replace the gearbox oil now.

Had it remained stuck in reverse I would have said the box, but since that is no longer the case I am going with linkages. So I am thinking I will replace them all.

Good shout on the oil, any recommendations? 
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Gambit on 21 May 2013, 22:44
If the 2nd gear crunch is bad then redline mtf will dampen it down, otherwise castrol 75w90 will do the job
Title: Re: Stuck in reverse...
Post by: Waspy on 22 May 2013, 19:28
If the 2nd gear crunch is bad then redline mtf will dampen it down, otherwise castrol 75w90 will do the job

Great, thanks!

I've been looking for a full linkage repair kit, obviously ebay comes up, but I am a little sceptical about the quality? Any of you guys know the best place to get one?
Cheers