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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mjh_056 on 09 May 2013, 19:30
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In last 5 years both my cars have been A3 S Line Manual 3 Door Hatchback 2.0TDi 170 BHP Quattro which have combined performance with economy so well and given I have been more than happy then my next choice would be very simple you would think, just spec up another A3 with a little adjustment to some future preferences.
Which is exxactly what did and was pretty much ready to order this
1.2.0 TDi 150 BHP Sportstronic S Line
2.Glacier White
3.SD Sat Nav
4.Interior Light Pack
5.Comfort Pack
6.Folding Wing Mirrors
7.Retain Sport Suspension
BUT! Along comes the MK7 GTi/GTD with all it's standard options and in my opinion improved styling over MK6 and it has stopped me in tracks and has me seriously considering changing over
The more likely order is the GTD as it is pretty close to the performance/economy balance already experiencing and allows me to option the DSG (The wife really wants this as an option) and Sat Nav where as the GTi would be the manual out of the box of which I have not quite yet eliminated as the Red Stripe and Red Tartan seating no matter the denial does have that extra appeal and when add in the additional performance it is hard to let head rule heart!
Also going for the 5 door on Golf as think it does not detract from style at all and it has been more of a pain than imagine getting passengers in and out of 3 door no matter how love the lines on A3 Hatchback.
So my likely order is -
1. Gti Manual/GTD DSG 5 Door
2. Pure White
3. Discover Navigation
4. Winter Pack
Everything else is a standard option!
I am going to avoid the stereo upgrade as did that in my A3 with Bose and never feel I get full benefit over the standard in my previous A3 and was tempted by active suspension but from what read the standard ride is pretty good and coming from an 8P with S Line suspension pretty sure it is going to be better on them potted roads than experience now.
A small concern is the start/stop with DSG, it does not bother me with my manual at all, but seems you need to adapt style with a DSG so it does not kick in all the time - Seems many have overcome quite readily and it would be same with Audi and Stronic, so it is not a blocker, just a wonder to how I would personally adapt (Should be option to disable completely, it is not a safety feature, with economy is drivers choice)
Having read through this forum I think you have all with great insight have covered most questions I would have with the only one like to ask at moment is to all those who have moved from A3 to GTi/GTD in what you feel you have gained and also maybe lost/miss?
This is so obviously the place to be to be enabled to make the most informed decision and look forward to reading the many posts to come as the MK7 GTi/GTD takes it's place in UK
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Welcome bud.
I was in the same position as you, and had pretty much spec'd up my A3 Sportback 2.0TDI S-Line S-Tronic, but just couldn't get the deal I wanted from the Audi dealers, who for the most part (but not all), were total arrogant ba5sards !!
In dropped the GTD and to be honest even though I dont own the car yet, I already feel better about the deal, having negotiated a deal vastly superior to that from Audi. Couple with that as beautiful as the A3 is, I actually think the 5 door Golf is better looking than the Sportback (i.e. doesn't look like an estate).
Don't worry about the stop start system. I've had it for the last 2 1/2 years on my DSG Scirocco, and to be honest I hardly notice it any more - you do adapt very quickly to it with DSG.
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GTD is less per month on PCP than the GT..
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Having done my final research and that includes of the soul to! and head won as too much saved against lost - So It is the GTD and I am actually ordering now and stuck on most ridiculous thing, 'Smokers Pack' ??! - No one I know smokes including me so not an option to choose except what does it leave in it's place if not choose? A large gap? Or is the ashtray useful for change etc and fills a gap? - What looks better?
Also it says the MFD screen in colour is an option? thought it was standard?
My order is
1. 5 door GTD DSG
2. Pure White
3. Discover navigation + European map data
4. Climate comfort windscreen (Even if just clears mist quickly, worth every penny as drives me nuts!)
5. Winter Pack
6. Smoker Pack???
7. Multi function display colour screen
8. Unlike Audi rest standard :o)
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MFD colour is standard 100% on GTI/GTD.
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Just been on the VW site and Multifunction Colour Display is a £135 Option on both GTi and GTD - I too thought it was standard, convinced, but seems not as it's on my order system as an option and main site to.
Just smokers pack now, and tempted to just order it even if never used for that purpose.
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Just been on the VW site and Multifunction Colour Display is a £135 Option on both GTi and GTD - I too thought it was standard, convinced, but seems not as it's on my order system as an option and main site to.
Just smokers pack now, and tempted to just order it even if never used for that purpose.
Check the price list, you'll see it's standard. The Configurator is pants.
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Yep! on the price list SE/GT Optional and GTi/GTD standard - To be honest it made no sense given all the loaded options to then leave off a colour MDF screen?! So that is sorted, thank you!
And now cup holder or ashtray? what looks best/most functional? Its my final decision which is crazy I am pondering over it given all other things there are :)
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And now cup holder or ashtray? what looks best/most functional? Its my final decision which is crazy I am pondering over it given all other things there are :)
Forgive my asking but, why the hell would you want an ash tray? :cool:
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Yep! on the price list SE/GT Optional and GTi/GTD standard - To be honest it made no sense given all the loaded options to then leave off a colour MDF screen?! So that is sorted, thank you!
And now cup holder or ashtray? what looks best/most functional? Its my final decision which is crazy I am pondering over it given all other things there are :)
If you don't smoke I honestly wouldn't bother with it.
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Smokers pack on the golf is very similar to the A3's I.e. you get a small plastic lidded removeable "cup" that slots into one of the front cup holders (although not a nice shiney chrome one like the Audi -just plain black plastic), and instead of a cover for the 12v accessory socket behind the handbrake switch, you get a cigarette lighter instead.
Out of interest, you said you are ordering the climate windscreen but no mention of the advanced phone package that VW are saying you have to have as well. Have you ordered this too (at a combined price of approx £600 for the pair), or did the dealer let you order the windscreen as an option on its own ?
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Purely looks as it seems on the GTD that the ashtray housing seamlessly sweeps around opposed to a hole and cup holder?
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Mine is a lease option and the ordering system has it as a standalone option though they might come back and hit me with that one still and if that the case I would decline as nice as is £600 for the addition of a phone package would never use is not worth it - Will let you know how the order goes through as I will get the confirmation.
And thank you! clearer now and the smokers pack a definite no now then as not what imagined and very much a drop off from the Audi - Think the interior overall is not as slick as the Audi but it is still quality and feel gaining far far more than losing ..
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Here's the ashtray (bottom of the photo)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7352/8724624718_83c12d955b_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8724624718/)
Camera Roll-209 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8724624718/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr
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That clears it up completely and an option going to very much let go! - And recognise you now off Audi Sport Net Mr 'sootchucker' as you were one who drew my attention to the GTD with your post explaining why you moved from the Audi Sportback we were both convinced we were getting - Its been a long process but feel very comfortable after 5 years of Audi on moving to VW for this GTD. :)
I have just ordered it and now the wait begins! Will let everyone know on confirmation of order and any date given.
1. 5 door GTD DSG
2. Pure White
3. Discover navigation + European map data
4. Climate comfort windscreen (Even if just clears mist quickly, worth every penny as drives me nuts!)
5. Winter Pack
8. Rest standard :)
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Ha.. Copycat :grin: :grin: :grin:
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That clears it up completely and an option going to very much let go! - And recognise you now off Audi Sport Net Mr 'sootchucker' as you were one who drew my attention to the GTD with your post explaining why you moved from the Audi Sportback we were both convinced we were getting - Its been a long process but feel very comfortable after 5 years of Audi on moving to VW for this GTD. :)
I have just ordered it and now the wait begins! Will let everyone know on confirmation of order and any date given.
1. 5 door GTD DSG
2. Pure White
3. Discover navigation + European map data
4. Climate comfort windscreen (Even if just clears mist quickly, worth every penny as drives me nuts!)
5. Winter Pack
8. Rest standard :)
You'll need to add the premium phone for this too. :-X
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Smoking pack was definitely something to do on the Scirocco, tidied the lower dash right up, but on the Golf here, it just looks like a plastic cup has been inserted into one of the cup holders.
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That is exactly what my thinking was, as last thing wanted was a great big hole spoiling the interior lines but as it is a plastic cup in the holder we move on! :)
Had confirmation of my order being received but not finalised so expect that Monday - Read on official price list today that GTD has it printed on brake caliper which was unexpected bomus as thought it was GTi on PP only ..
More I read on what ordered the better I feel about moving from A3 to GTD
Looking forward to the first ones being received and photos going up from those who ordered early ..
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As expected really and sadly I think as should be down to buyers choice, had a call today explaining my Climate Comfort Screen will need the Advanced Phone Pack to be ordered. - Which to pay another 50% + on top of screen cost for something I would seriously never use has had me bin it, because as nice as would have been it really is not worth the additional expense.
So, and despite my protestations in other posts that the GTD ride will likely be more than fine in standard form I have removed the Screen and added ACC instead given the strong reviews on the ACC on MK7 being very noticeable in how it adjusts in all modes and how many here genuinely swear by it.
As well as being able to use the 3 modes pretty sure will set up and define a sport on everything/comfort suspension for town roads which round here are abysmal.
but thats is now, no going back! New Order
VW GTD 5dr DSG
Adaptive chassis control
Discover navigation
Pure white
Winter pack
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Think that's probably a wise move. I was the same, really wanted the climate screen, but didn't want to pay for the premium phone package as
1) I have an Iphone (work supplied) and these are not rSAP compatible, therefore I wouldn't get any benefit other than charging - which incidentally I can do by plugging the iphone into the MDI port anyway and
2) The advanced phone package still doesn't give access to VW Car Net as VW UK are not offering this in the UK (despite it only being €100.00 in Germany. This would offer live traffic updates, google maps, google street view, Picture POI searches etc. Whilst non of this is actually needed in the car, at least if I had access to Car net, it would go towards justifying Premium phone package, but as it is, for me at least, it just isn't worth it.
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Hope you don't regret removing the screen mjh_056 when it gets to those cold and damp days. I went through a series of spec changes, including adding and then removing the PP as it's truly something I just don't need. However, a heated screen was very high on my list, and as much as I don't need/want the Premium Phone Prep, in the grand scheme of things it's not a whole lot extra to pay for that peace of mind.
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When you have got the price in head for something and are happy to pay it and then to be told you have add something that you would never use and it doubles the price too! is something that would always rankle with me knowing that useless part is lying there every time got in car - mental thing maybe, would I have paid the combined price for the screen as a standalone? - It should be part of the winter pack as an added price, problem solved.
Also how necessary is the Advanced Phone Pack? Are they saying all phones need to be connected to it to gain a signal then if select this screen?
I usually have to clear a Mini Cooper screen and my Audi most winter mornings and it is a pain and would love to just press a button, but in reality they are pretty clear in a few minutes on both and given I am not totally sure of the screen ability to clear the thicker ice alongside what I am sure would have been a good job de-misting them quickly then package it all up I actually have readily and easily moved on.
The second generation of DCC for GTi/GTD does seem from all understand to be very good at managing the ride and I do live in a very poor area for roads and I suppose with my current S Line suspension it is a magnifed issue for me as when I hit the bad ones I know it!
There are not many options issues with these GTi/GTD as so much is standard, far less than I was having with the Audi where I was having to compromise on engines even to get a better overall spec, so given the Performance I am getting with that multiple standard options, Sat Nav Winter Pack and now DCC I am not missing out on a lot :)
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Yup, it's a spendy option all-said, and it's very easy to talk yourself into and out of options as I did with the PP. Agreed that DCC seems like a no-brainer, and it's something I also specced given that roads around me are not that great either.
You do indeed get a lot of good kit as standard, just great to be able to add all that I have to make it pretty much my perfect car :)
Edit: Regarding the necessity of the phone prep, I've no idea, but I highly doubt that even a lead sheet covering the windscreen would block out enough radio signals to render a phone useless. If my mobile phone works in my understairs cupboard, I'm pretty sure it will work in a car with thin glass windows surrounding it (not that I use my phone much in my car anyway!)