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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Hawaii-Five-O on 30 April 2013, 09:31

Title: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 30 April 2013, 09:31
Thought I'd set up a thread to discuss which maintenance regime you will be using any why.

Still unsure which maintenance regime to use for my GTD when it arrives.

I read this really useful thread posted by Teutonic_Tamer but it may be out of date.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779.0

Be good to source the latest advice from those in the know (i.e. tech nutters) :wink:
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 09:44
I'm just going with the 3 year service plan as part of the options financing.  Spreads the cost and gets the car checked over annually.  I'm relatively low mileage, but gives me peace of mind.
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Sootchucker on 30 April 2013, 12:29
As my mileage is typically less than 10k per year, I'm going time and distance rather than flexible interval.

Had the flexi service on my old MK5 (similar annual mileage), and typically got about 17k (about 18-20 months) between services, and when the oil was dropped it was like treacle !

Prefer not to put the GTD through that, and anyway as I have the 3 year service package for free, I intend to get 3 services (like I have on the current Scirocco).
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 April 2013, 13:36
Depends on mileage. Unless you're a 20k/year driver I would stick to the time/distance and get the 3 year pack with the car which is £359, dropping to £249 if you are taking out solutions. Free servicing for me as part of my "deal" from the dealer. I just had service 2 from My Scirocco that has same service plan and invoiced "cost" for the service charged to VW was £139.

My MK5 GT Sport 170TDI did about 18k miles between services on longlife.
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: matchboy on 30 April 2013, 14:36
What sort of breaking in period/miles will you chaps be doing?  I can't remember what I did last time, maybe first 500 miles taking it easy ie. not going over 3k revs to start off with then increasing it as the mileage went along....although I'm pretty sure I floored it a couple of times in that period as couldn't resist it  :laugh: :evil:
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 14:44
I'm gonna thrash mine straight off the forcourt and then get it serviced every 250 miles!!! :evil: :evil:




Or i'll take it easyish for the first 1k giving it the odd kicking and get it serviced every 12 months with the service plan........


Hmmm.. :whistle:
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: matchboy on 30 April 2013, 14:45
I'll go for Option 2  :grin:
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 April 2013, 15:57
I had the weirdest running in with the current car (170TDI Roc). Straight off the forecourt it seemed so tight (compared to the previous car - 140TDI Roc) that if it wasn't for the soundaktor i'd have convinced myself that i'd been given a 140 by mistake. I drove it pretty gently, with the occasional incursion into 2/3 revs for the first 700 miles/1000km. I was pretty pissed off that my 170 seemed so tight, then at what seemed to be dot-on the miles equivalent of 500km (320 miles?) it was like someone had flicked a switch - the difference was instantaneous. Could my Roc's output have been retarded by the engine management during some basic running in program? I had never felt this in any of my previous 5 TDIs, but it did seem as if suddenly at 500km the engine management had decided to let me have access to more power.

When running in, get it on plenty of variety in speeds and revs for the first 700 miles. I bought 1 Golf 140TDI from a dealership in Crewe via a broker and then drove it straight down to Southampton. Running in on motorway miles stuck at 75mph ruined that car. It was thirsty, had less than average power and went through a litre of oil every 1000 miles, none of my other TDIs had ever gone through a meaningful quantity of oil between services.

If you have no intention of keeping it beyond the warranty then I suppose you could drive it like you stole it from day 1!

Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 16:08
Best thing to do is just take it easy generally, blow the cobwebs off once in a while, and let the thing settle down for the first couple of tanks worth.  I wouldn't go testing out its 0-60 straight away, and nor would I give a long single run down the motorway straight after picking it up.  Mix things up a bit.
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 16:17
My dealer is actually 75miles away.  They'll deliver for free by driving it to me but why would I want someone else to drive my car and wreck it (especially since 60 of those miles will be on the A14!!!)?  They say we can discuss a trailer delivery, and my guess is if I push they might do it for free... but sounds more fun to pick it up myself and drive it home.

I'm obviously gonna keep it off the A14 or other big roads, apart from the running in question its just not gonna be fun driving on them, but anyone else have any thoughts/advice on this?  Picking a nice scenic route back and keeping the drive gentle on a quiet weekday afternoon was my plan.
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 16:41
75 miles of scenic driving sounds good to me.  My dealer is only 7 miles away, 6 of which are on a fast, straight A road!  I'll just have to have fun around the little roundabouts near me, and storm off at the lights! lol
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 17:10
My morning commute is 12miles, 10 of which are on the A14 at 80 (ahem, I mean 70) mph... then the same to get home from work.  In a typical week that is 90% of my driving.  :sad:

If everything I've heard is right this is probably the worst possible way to run in a car!
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 17:39
My morning commute is 12miles, 10 of which are on the A14 at 80 (ahem, I mean 70) mph... then the same to get home from work.  In a typical week that is 90% of my driving.  :sad:

If everything I've heard is right this is probably the worst possible way to run in a car!

I wouldn't be too concerned.  Just mix it up with a few short runs at lower speeds around town and stuff, bit of stop-start.  To be fair, even 10 years ago my dad was a mechanic, and he said that the need to run cars in and nanny them was no longer really necessary as long as you are sensible about it.  With modern machining and tighter tolerances, I'm sure that's even more the case now.
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: dubber36 on 30 April 2013, 17:49
I wouldn't nurse it, or be afraid of high revs from day one. The thing is not to let it labour or put unnecessary stress on it. 5-6-7000rpm wont do it any harm if you've got there on 1/2 throttle.
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Rhyso on 30 April 2013, 21:45
Time & distance

The state of the oil being dropped on Longlife servicing is  :sick:

Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 05 May 2013, 17:44
Thanks for all your help on this folks.

Been doing lots of internet research (other forums & google) and everyone is saying the same. Use the Time & Distance regime unless you're a rep who does 20k + per year mainly on motorways.

So, I'm defo going to go on the time & distance maintenance regime, especially with my annual mileage (10k approx pa).

Do I have to ask my supplying dealer to set the car for T&D or is it done at the factory?

Cheers
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: JonnyG on 05 May 2013, 18:23
Do I have to ask my supplying dealer to set the car for T&D or is it done at the factory?

Just book it in for its first service when it's due on T&D (is it still 10,000 miles or 1 year with the MK7?) and tell them you want a T&D 1st service and ask them to set it T&D for remaining services.
Title: Re: Maintenance regime (Time & Distance or LongLife)
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 May 2013, 18:47
They'll change it to T&D automatically unless you tell them not to - it's more money in their pockets to do so, and if you get the service pack it is all T&D services only included on that so they'd have to change it anyway.