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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: GOLF-MK3-GTI on 13 April 2013, 19:55
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Yesterday I got a deposit for the MR2 as I had someone interested in buying. So took £350 deposit off them, then my younger brother took the car for 15 mins, well he went to petrol station. On way back some old fella decided to come out of giveway, resulting in a collision. :cry:
Liability has been accepted by the old fella as well as his insurance company.
The guy interested in MR2 still wants it. Thank god :grin:
Anyway went to garage today morning to get a quote for damage, so seen a MK4 R32, battery was dead, decided to bump it and take it for a blast, let me confirm this. They are sh!te, a VR6 feels much quicker than R32.
Maybe this 32 was battered n bruised? Who knows. What are your thoughts on a 32?, might buy an S3 or sumat next :cool:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh502/schmidt-vr6/IMG_0846_zps597dec76.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/schmidt-vr6/media/IMG_0846_zps597dec76.jpg.html)
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R32s aint made to be fast. Throttle response beats a vr though
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Lot of extra weight in a Mk4, but an extra 70bhp and 150nm of torque should take care of that......
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Prob cos the Mk4 R32 is a HEAVY lump. Then again they both are.
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Prob cos the Mk4 R32 is a HEAVY lump. Then again they both are.
I'm sure R32 lumps are lighter than a VR6?
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Prob cos the Mk4 R32 is a HEAVY lump. Then again they both are.
I'm sure R32 lumps are lighter than a VR6?
Taking into account the whole car weighs a good 150+ kilos more.
Its a cruiser at the end of the day, if you want speed you can spend what you save buying a 1.8t on go faster goodies :wink:
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Throttle was very keen, doing 30mph and all you need to do was tap the throttle and it'll jump. But not my cup of tea, I've always wanted a R32, but after driving this, I'm having second thoughts. Might try a S3 or MK5 GTI Turbo. :wink:
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Drive an intregra type r down some back roads and come back saying you want a golf :whistle: :laugh:
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Prob cos the Mk4 R32 is a HEAVY lump. Then again they both are.
I'm sure R32 lumps are lighter than a VR6?
Mk3 Vr6 is 1477 KG
Mk4 R32 is 1505 KG
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Drive an intregra type r down some back roads and come back saying you want a golf :whistle: :laugh:
Type R engines, you can't beat them. Honda actually admit that the best handling car they have ever made is a Integra DC2. Nothing compares to that from the other Honda models.
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Prob cos the Mk4 R32 is a HEAVY lump. Then again they both are.
I'm sure R32 lumps are lighter than a VR6?
Mk3 Vr6 is 1477 KG
Mk4 R32 is 1505 KG
:embarrassed:
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Type R engines might move it, but the car itself handles like a dog in the corners.. :whistle:
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Type R engines might move it, but the car itself handles like a dog in the corners.. :whistle:
Are you fcuking retarded?
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Type R engines might move it, but the car itself handles like a dog in the corners.. :whistle:
Are you fcuking retarded?
:grin: :grin:
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Type R engines might move it, but the car itself handles like a dog in the corners.. :whistle:
Are you fcuking retarded?
Maybe :laugh:
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Type R engines might move it, but the car itself handles like a dog in the corners.. :whistle:
Are you fcuking retarded?
Maybe :laugh:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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Can't beat a well looked after, full service Honda history old Civic R type. Great engines :smiley:
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I think there's some confusion going on here.. :whistle:
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Just love the old Civic R Types :cool:
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Honda powered mk3. Tuned ep3 will make 250bhp. And that's a 2.0 N/A engine. That's epic
Been done before.
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You a fan of the old Civic R type?
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You a fan of the old Civic R type?
I'm a racer, it's in my blood. I'm a fan of any fast car that handles.
I just have a stanced mk3 because I love the look and style, and I love VW/VAG shows. But they aint the best when it comes to bends
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You had all the Mk3's hey. 8V, 16V and Vr6? Not many can claim that
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Yourself, Ess_three, Screech16v and Khare have saved me sh!t loads of money with advice :smiley:
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Yeah 16v was most fun. But my 8v is a show going car to be fair and I don't like driving it fast. Ill never sell my 8v she's staying for life! But the vr6 is going and being replaced by a type r for a short while then that will be replaced by a vag estate.
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Yourself, Ess_three, Screech16v and Khare have saved me sh!t loads of money with advice :smiley:
That's good to hear! That's what the forum is for.
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Yeah but there are a lot of plebs on here who just like to brag about how good and fast their car is (no
names mentioned)
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:grin: :grin: :grin:
Agreed
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R32 would get my vote over and above a VR anyday, much better car in so many respects.
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R32 would get my vote over and above a VR anyday, much better car in so many respects.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:lipsrsealed:
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The R32 was and always will be a lazy man's car with hugely deceptive point to point pace which got you to
your destination cool and relaxed. A very underwhelming car, like all MK4 Golf's TBH, the only thing it did well
was the noise.
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Arnt mk2s good round corners or is it just the mk1
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Mk3 abf handles better than a mk2
The simple fact is its lighter. Get a mk3 to same weight and it will be faster.
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Mk3 abf handles better than a mk2
The simple fact is its lighter. Get a mk3 to same weight and it will be faster.
im confused now i thought all mk2 golfs were lighter
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Mk3 abf handles better than a mk2
The simple fact is its lighter. Get a mk3 to same weight and it will be faster.
im confused now i thought all mk2 golfs were lighter
Mk2 Golf is lighter, reread what Tweed posted, get a mk3 to weigh less and that is half the battle.
Or just drop an ABF in a mk2 (which would be my choice)
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Mk3 abf handles better than a mk2
The simple fact is its lighter. Get a mk3 to same weight and it will be faster.
im confused now i thought all mk2 golfs were lighter
Mk2 Golf is lighter, reread what Tweed posted, get a mk3 to weigh less and that is half the battle.
Or just drop an ABF in a mk2 (which would be my choice)
ahh i get you now so the mk3 handles better but the lightness of the mk2 makes it faster round the track and putting a abf in makes it even better
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R32's are pathetic
had this convo last night with ben, when my engine was standard 225bhp (S3 engine) it absolutly murdered a mk5 R32 and the driver tried about 5 times, i said at the time to ben, his VR6 would have kept up with the R32 EASY
id never ever have a R32 or the engine.. unless it was turbo'd up
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and as for Mk2 and mk3 debate
mk2 aerodynamics are diabolical over 100 mph, the ideal shell is mk3 if you are going for BIG power, the extra bit of weight helps traction and the aerodynamics are good on the mk3
BTW I love MK2's
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This thread is daft, for a start it is in the mk3 section so will always be mixed views.
Out of the factory a mk3 GTI or VR has very poor handling against a mk2, even a mk4 GTI standard is better.
R32 will or should be quicker off the line thanks to the better traction and I still fail to see how a mk3 VR can be consided a better car.
Horses for courses really, depends on really what you want from a car.
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This thread is daft, for a start it is in the mk3 section so will always be mixed views.
Out of the factory a mk3 GTI or VR has very poor handling against a mk2, even a mk4 GTI standard is better.
R32 will or should be quicker off the line thanks to the better traction and I still fail to see how a mk3 VR can be consided a better car.
Horses for courses really, depends on really what you want from a car.
Are you Serious ? have you owned a mk4 never mind driven one ?
I have, and iv also owned a MK2 16v when it was 4 years old
so im entitled to have the opinion Iv stated
the most shocking Iv just read is you saying a standard MK4 handles better than a mk3
just WOW!!!
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R32's are pathetic
had this convo last night with ben, when my engine was standard 225bhp (S3 engine) it absolutly murdered a mk5 R32 and the driver tried about 5 times, i said at the time to ben, his VR6 would have kept up with the R32 EASY
id never ever have a R32 or the engine.. unless it was turbo'd up
I can believe that as yours is better power to weight. Also you loose more bhp through 4wd system than fwd. so r32 would have a bigger loss of power at the wheels.
But seen a few mk5 r32 turbos and oh my.
Your limited to the amount of power you can use on a fwd car.
Mk5 r32 would pull your pants down if you both had 650bhp.
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and as for Mk2 and mk3 debate
mk2 aerodynamics are diabolical over 100 mph, the ideal shell is mk3 if you are going for BIG power, the extra bit of weight helps traction and the aerodynamics are good on the mk3
BTW I love MK2's
ive been about 110mph in my mk3 it seemed to drive quite steady as the steering wasnt to figity what top speed have u reached f17 with all that power :shocked:
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the most shocking Iv just read is you saying a standard MK4 handles better than a mk3
Well it does, mk3 GTI from the factory is crap, very underdamped.
Driven a few mk4's plus the Octavia which would run rings around a mk3 both in terms of handling and yet still have some ride comfort.
All the road tests of the time slated the mk3 for handling hence the boat nickname.
Whilst people will say that a mk3 can be improved that is not really the point it is a GTI so should be half decent out of the box.
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You have most deffo not driven a mk4 if you think it handles betther than a mk3 GTI..
Under dampened ? Mk4 was over dampened
Very very NOT gti like drive, alot worse than mk3...
mk3 was worse than mk2.. Mk5 got better again
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the most shocking Iv just read is you saying a standard MK4 handles better than a mk3
Well it does, mk3 GTI from the factory is crap, very underdamped.
Driven a few mk4's plus the Octavia which would run rings around a mk3 both in terms of handling and yet still have some ride comfort.
All the road tests of the time slated the mk3 for handling hence the boat nickname.
Whilst people will say that a mk3 can be improved that is not really the point it is a GTI so should be half decent out of the box.
Fair point!
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Mk5 GTI gets my vote :smiley: