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Title: Dynaudio
Post by: blueheaduk on 09 April 2013, 03:32
Thinking about switching my metallic paint for tornado red, with a view to getting Dynaudio.

I'm not one to drive around town with dance music up loud but I do love a bit of rock as my zip down the motorway. Anyone got any thoughts on whether dynaudio makes a difference?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Gryzor on 09 April 2013, 07:41
I guess it depends on how much of an audiophile you are, and how you like to listen to your music.  The standard audio in my current Mk5 GTI is absolutely fine to my ears.  A mate of mine has a GT TDI with Dynaudio, and yup, it sounds a bit better side-by-side.

However, I don't like loud music in the car, or too much bass.  Plus, I'm in a car with noises all around me, not at home surrounded by high-quality speakers in relative silence.  If I were you I'd go try and have a listen yourself before dropping a colour you may regret.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: matchboy on 09 April 2013, 09:32
It is 100% worth it.  I didn't have it in my Mk 5 GTI and the sound was fine to be fair.  However I did have it in my Mk 6 GTI and I noticed the difference straight away (went from the Mk 5 straight into the Mk 6).  Never turned it over half way such was the power of it, and crystal clear as well.  Was the first thing I specced on my Mk 7 order, at £520 its a no brainer, particularly if you are like me and the main time I listen to music is in the car.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Gryzor on 09 April 2013, 13:55
I actually just got back from a dealership after sorting out the final numbers on my GTI, and I took an SD card around with me.  I sampled both with and without Dynaudio, and while there is definitely a difference, it's not £500 worth of difference to my ears, and certainly not when driving down the road in a GTI with its engine note and other sounds all around me.  But, like I said, it really depends on how much you like your music and what matters most to you.  If you want it, go for it.  After all, it's your money and your car :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: master_hayabusa on 09 April 2013, 13:59
I actually just got back from a dealership after sorting out the final numbers on my GTI, and I took an SD card around with me.  I sampled both with and without Dynaudio, and while there is definitely a difference, it's not £500 worth of difference to my ears, and certainly not when driving down the road in a GTI with its engine note and other sounds all around me.  But, like I said, it really depends on how much you like your music and what matters most to you.  If you want it, go for it.  After all, it's your money and your car :)

I agree. The standard one suffices. It's not like you're in a studio ;)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: HA54SYM` on 09 April 2013, 14:50
Agreed on the mk6, but the mk7 has the addition of a sub.

for me the Dyanudio in the mk6 is not really worth the extra cash, so the mk7 could be different,

Dave
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: simonpolly on 09 April 2013, 20:27
I actually just got back from a dealership after sorting out the final numbers on my GTI, and I took an SD card around with me.  I sampled both with and without Dynaudio, and while there is definitely a difference, it's not £500 worth of difference to my ears, and certainly not when driving down the road in a GTI with its engine note and other sounds all around me.  But, like I said, it really depends on how much you like your music and what matters most to you.  If you want it, go for it.  After all, it's your money and your car :)

What quality did you save the music files at on the SD card ?,to experience the true difference try a CD.I have dynaudio in my Golf but not in my Sharan the sound if far better in the golf.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Gryzor on 09 April 2013, 21:02
What quality did you save the music files at on the SD card ?,to experience the true difference try a CD.I have dynaudio in my Golf but not in my Sharan the sound if far better in the golf.

It varies between 196 and 320kbps, but here's the thing...  I'm no audiophile, not by a long shot, and at home I've done a lot of tests ripping various CDs at different bit rates.  It all honesty, to my ears, at 196kbps and higher it all sounds perfectly adequate to me.  This is through testing on decent computer speakers and a very good KEF-based surround system at home. 

Like a lot of things, it's a case of diminishing returns.  It's already a very competent audio system, so to me it's not worth spending £500 to make the music sound a bit better, not in a relatively noisy car environment.  Unlike the other extras I've ordered where they give me usable features over-and-above what's already there.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: ajmoir36 on 09 April 2013, 21:21
Dynaudio all the way, well worth it. The fender system was fab in the beetle too. Would always want it in the next motor too.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Booth11 on 09 April 2013, 21:44
Depends on how important music in your car is to you.  For me it's the place I most listen to my music and therefore the sound quality is paramount.  Would always be on the 'must spec' list and if now comes with a sub, then all the better.


Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: CraigW on 01 May 2013, 17:18
Hi All,

Just joined this great forum  :smiley: I'm trying to currently do a deal on a new GTI and have specced Dynaudio as part of my options however I've been told that because of the amp I would lose the spare wheel. Has anyone heard this?

Thanks Craig
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Sootchucker on 01 May 2013, 17:25
Craig, that was doing the rounds a few weeks ago, compounded by the fact that dealers didn't seem to know exactly what Dynaudio actually was.

I've since spoken carefully to VW customer services who had to go to VW in Wolfsburg for confirmation, but bascially Dnyaudio gives you a 400watt amp and DSP unit under the passenger seat. All 8 speakers are upgraded with the tweeters in the front A-pillars incorporating special "Dynaudio" chrome trims, and a spare wheel mounted sub-woofer which fits inside the space saver spare wheel and doesn't precude the supply of the space saver itself. i.e. you still get the space saver and the sub together.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: CraigW on 01 May 2013, 17:32
That's great Norbreck! Thanks for clearing that up. As you said I don't think half these dealers know what they are talking about
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 17:32
You can get an actual wheel then instead of a still packet of glue?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 18:06
I have also spec'ed my GTI MK7 to have Dynaudio.  I was finding it hard to find out from the dealer what was involved in the Dynaudio pack.  thanks for clearing it up.  The fact It has a Sub, 8 Speakers and DSP / Amp is more than worth the money.  I am also glad to hear we retain the spare wheel as well as the Sub.  This is great news.  I spec'ed my Civic Type-R (Previous/Current Car) with the Bass Works (Honda Equivalent), it was worth the money but cost the same as the Dynaudio and you didn't get half as much (only 6 speakers and an Amp).

If anyone is unsure about Dynaudio, don't be, It is going to be worth every penny. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: master_hayabusa on 12 June 2013, 00:32
Dynaudio various settings being played with. German interface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhX4BunJyM
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: matchboy on 12 June 2013, 08:41
Dynaudio various settings being played with. German interface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhX4BunJyM

Great find, can't wait to get my hands on this!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: OF1 on 12 June 2013, 10:02
Dynaudio was the first option I wanted on my GTD before anything else.

I had Harmon / Kardon in my last Mini Cooper, but when I upgraded to the Cooper S I had to do without. My word the difference was noticeable. Massively so. I listen to a lot of underground house music so a good (Better) sound system in car makes the difference to me.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 June 2013, 10:15
Must say I cant tell the difference between normal and dynaudio and neither can my mam who works in the music industry. Not worth the extra money in my opinion but its an option so its personal preference.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mortimerchris on 12 June 2013, 15:02
Yawn
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Sootchucker on 12 June 2013, 15:14
Sorry, are we boring you............... :laugh:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 June 2013, 15:16
Yawn
why bother yourself to even reply to a thread if your not interested in it??
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mortimerchris on 12 June 2013, 16:24
I am interested in the thread, there is a lot of worthwhile information but your comment is about as interesting useful mine.

To say there is no difference is retarded and to justify it the way was mildly amusing.

If I didn't have to wait another 5 years for my car I may not be so sarcastic  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 June 2013, 16:50
I am interested in the thread, there is a lot of worthwhile information but your comment is about as interesting useful mine.

To say there is no difference is retarded and to justify it the way was mildly amusing.

If I didn't have to wait another 5 years for my car I may not be so sarcastic  :laugh:
"Retarded" what sort of statement is that!! If youve got nothing constructive to say and can only resort to offensive comments then why bother being on the forum. It was a statement of fact by someone who works in the music industry for a living that they couldnt tell any major difference for the additional £500 odd quid. You seem to be one of these know all people who knows everything and must be right. If you cant say anything nice then dont bother!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Sootchucker on 12 June 2013, 16:54
When I was seriously looking to go down the new A3 Sportback route (the new 8V MQB type) a couple of months ago, the boys over at Audi-Sport.net were all singing the praises of the £750 B&O system in the Audi. Needless to say, I couldn't find a demonstrator with the B&O installed, but did find a couple with the entry level optional "Audi Sound System" installed.

Now Audi offer 2 upgrades - the Audi Sound System at £255 which gave you 10 speakers including a sub in the boot along with a 6 channel amp with 180 watt output.

The B&O System gave 14 speakers including the sub, as well as a 15 channel Amp with 705 watts output and full 5.1 surround compatibility.

Well, like I said never managed to hear the B&O system, but had a good play with the £250 Audi Sound system and at first, it didn't sound much better than standard. However once I'd "tweaked" the settings, raised the sub level etc, it completely blew the standard system away (so god only knows what the B&O system must sound like).

So I'm hoping that the Dynaudio system with a 10 channel Amp and 400 watts (albeit without the Audi's 10th Centre dash speaker), "should" (I hope) sound somewhere in between the pair of them.

Like I said, I hope so........... :grin:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: dippy_x on 12 June 2013, 20:13
Must resist... urge... to... add.... Dynaudio...
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: JohnP on 12 June 2013, 20:40
I've had a BMW professional system and Bose on an audi - they both sounded amazing and significantly better than the standard systems but you do need to take the time to set them up for your taste just as you would any stereo. Not many systems, car or otherwise, will be right straight out of the box and I didn't realise it until recently that they do need to be 'run in'. 

I've been told that the dynaudio is a big step forward on the GTI with the additional of the sub woofer and is just as good if not better. I can't wait!!!!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Nutkins on 12 June 2013, 21:25
Remember Dynaudio is a proper high end speaker manufacturer, who make genuine warm, neutral and clean sounding speakers. They are light years ahead of Bose but you have to listen to them for an extended period to appreciate the quality. It's not just pumped up bass to make it sound like an 'upgrade'. Expect clear, natural vocals and a high level of detail. This is how it was in the mk6 but that lacked a bit of Bass. The sub in the mk7 should address this. I have some retail Dynaudio speakers that sell at around £6-700 for 2 way components, and they don't appear much different to the stuff you get with VW. This makes it a bit if a bargain when you consider you get front and rear speaker + an amp and sub. A no-brainier really if you care at all about music.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 08:12
I'm not too bothered about high end audio in the car - too many background noises in a car to justify the spend for me, seeing as the standard unit is very good for a standard unit. I'll leave the best stuff at home.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: CraigW on 14 June 2013, 13:42
I'm not too bothered about high end audio in the car - too many background noises in a car to justify the spend for me, seeing as the standard unit is very good for a standard unit. I'll leave the best stuff at home.

This is one option that I swayed over for a quite a while and ended up just leaving it. I'm hoping i'm not going to regret it but it's a small comfort hearing that the standard system is still pretty good  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mcmaddy on 14 June 2013, 20:28
The standard system in all the vw's I've had has been really good. you won't miss having dynaudio, honestly.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mjh_056 on 14 June 2013, 20:40
Have had 2 identical cars back to back one with standard audio and one with BOSE upgrade and is it better?

At times you do catch some real clarity but given the conditions of day to day car driving and fact the original stereo is pretty decent then I feel my upgrade was more for pointing to the door plates with BOSE written on them than any huge lift in audio over the incumbent so from that experience not something I even looked at as an option.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: ajmoir36 on 14 June 2013, 21:16
I spend 1.5 hours a day in the car and all of it listening to music couldn't do with out.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Nutkins on 14 June 2013, 21:58
Depends how important music is to you really. For some its the only place to listen to music at a loudish volume. I Personally I find it one of the best places to listen to music. And with respect its pointless comparing a Bose / non-Bose car as dynaudio is a different league.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mjh_056 on 15 June 2013, 08:22
Depends how important music is to you really. For some its the only place to listen to music at a loudish volume. I Personally I find it one of the best places to listen to music. And with respect its pointless comparing a Bose / non-Bose car as dynaudio is a different league.

I will have to bow to your knowledge on that as have not compared but BOSE was not a cheap upgrade, comparable, and many said same on how it was different league - But my point did extend a little in that I have regular passengers and listen to radio a lot more than CD and add in general car environment I personally do not feel I ever get real benefit of an upgraded system no matter make/quality

If drive car on own a lot maybe you will more

To qualify I can tell difference at home my listening is a high end Denon of 5 years that got 5 star across board in reviews at time and never once fails to thrill me with its sound through equally high end speakers/headphones

As many say here everything is 100% subjective so none of us are really right or wrong these just our personal views and only way to ever make mind up for someone looking for guidance based on an experience opposed to a material fact is try for themselves :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mjh_056 on 17 June 2013, 20:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhX4BunJyM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhX4BunJyM)

Dynaudio controls and some focus on rear tail light LEDs also
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Bigbadbobbie on 13 July 2013, 20:54
It would be great to see pictures of the sub..... Great forum by the way  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 13 July 2013, 20:57
Scroll down this page:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=251542.10
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: GtG on 14 July 2013, 05:29
If anyone's hearing is so bad they can't notice a difference between the standard and Dynaudio, I agree... they definitely shouldn't waste their money on it  :grin:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Bigbadbobbie on 14 July 2013, 09:06
Scroll down this page:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=251542.10
. Cheers for that!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Raffe on 14 July 2013, 18:00
The standard system in all the vw's I've had has been really good. you won't miss having dynaudio, honestly.

Can't agree with this, the std system in my mk6 GTi is crap, lacks quality, punch and depth of sound.

My 3 series with business speaker upgrade is awesome, and the Harmon Kardon on another level again which a colleague has.

If you enjoy your music its got to be a good choice :cool:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Gryzor on 14 July 2013, 18:52
The standard system in all the vw's I've had has been really good. you won't miss having dynaudio, honestly.

Can't agree with this, the std system in my mk6 GTi is crap, lacks quality, punch and depth of sound.

My 3 series with business speaker upgrade is awesome, and the Harmon Kardon on another level again which a colleague has.

If you enjoy your music its got to be a good choice :cool:

My cousin just bought a Mk6 GT TDI, standard audio, and it sounds perfectly acceptable to me.  Easily as good as the SONY system that's in my mates Focus.  I guess it depends how much you like your music and want reference-quality sound in your car, but with all the other sounds around you, I really don't see the point.  But, I also do see the point, for those who just want it as good as it can be without spending thousands on aftermarket kit.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Raffe on 14 July 2013, 19:48
As a reference point and I think a fair direct comparison, the standard system in my previous Leon FR was also night and day better by comparison than the Golf.

As you say it's a very personal thing, but my wife who has no reference point asked why the sound was so poor compared to my cars, make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mcmaddy on 14 July 2013, 23:14
maybe something wrong with your car? just my own personal experiences but nothing wrong with standard audio setup in all the VW's I've had.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Raffe on 15 July 2013, 07:37
I am sure you'll be happy with your choice.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Davie d on 06 October 2013, 23:55
If anyone has listened to the Dynaudio and couldn't notice a difference over standard we'll it sounds like the system hasn't been set up very poorly !!!
The mk7 system with the sub is much better than the mk6 system because the sub brings it together better.
Audi Bose system can't be compared to Dynaudio as Bose automotive sounds horrendous !!!!!
For some folk like myself the £500 option is a no brainier as for others it's just not there thing

I reckon to get/retrofit the Dynaudio system afterwards would probably cost about £2000-£2500 in my own opinion
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Gordor on 07 October 2013, 19:34
1st time I have specced an upgraded stereo and boy am I glad I did. The Dynaudio system is awesome...get it!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Sootchucker on 07 October 2013, 22:09
Have to agree with the guys, for me, it's one of my best selected options  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: matchboy on 07 October 2013, 22:14
Yep, I agree. Not had it over halfway volume yet it's so freaking loud  :evil:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: MJ-GTI on 16 October 2013, 05:31
Dynaudio with the sub is one of the extras I'm really looking forward to on the car. So for those who specced dynaudio on their delivered cars? How is it? A short review would be great?

And for those who have discover nav pro specced on their delivered cars? Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: pauliem on 16 October 2013, 08:16
The Dynaudio system is great - great full sound and you won't regret it.

I have to say that there are elements of the actual head unit I preferred on the Scirocco though (RCD 510 I think)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Ginagee on 16 October 2013, 12:33
I'm very much looking forward to the Dynaudio. Very embarrassed to say my current car isn't a VW (it's a Honda - yes, I know!) and the sound quality is rubbish. Can't wait to be able to enjoy music with the Dynaudio. My husband drives a Dodge Magnum SRT with a mega sound system in it - goes up to 40 on the volume, we can't get it past 30 without our ears bleeding :laugh:. Hence I was determined to spec the Dynaudio in the GTi. Waiting for it is very hard though! This forums keeping me going!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Valenni on 16 October 2013, 13:13
I love my music and sound quality is very important to me. I spec'd the Dynaudio for this very reason.

When I test drove the SEAT Leon FR in April it had the SEAT sound option. (Which I suspect is Dynaudio as it had the sub in the boot also) It sounded awesome.

Now that I have had my GTD for over a week I can tell you it is more than worth it. My taste in sound is usually raising the mid and treble to about 90% and keeping the base tight around 70%. (Sub setting kept @ 50%)

This makes any music come to life. (Even MP3's)

Most of my music is ripped @ 320kbps on the SD card and they sound fantastic.

It's also a nice bonus seeing the chrome Dynaudio frame and logo on the front pillars.  :cool:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Sootchucker on 16 October 2013, 13:17
As I've said before, the Dynaudio is superb, deep bass, crisp highs and lots of volume  :laugh:

Whilst we are discussing Dynaudio, for the others that already have it, I recently noticed what might be a bug (but then might be standard operation).

As you know, you have the option in the Dynaudio sound settings to either set the Bass, Middle and Treble via an Equaliser (Profile setting), or via using Dynaudio's own built in pre sets (Authentic, Dynamic, Voice etc). I noticed on mine, that if I set a pre set, say Dynamic, the next time I go into the sound settings, it defaults to the user profile of the equaliser and not the Dynaudio pre-sets.

I can't be 100% sure if the sound character is being moved away from the pre-set back to the equaliser, but could someone else check this. If you set a pre set (and Dynamic is good for most pop / rock), then some time later (not immediately), check again and see if it defaults back to Dynamic or back to the equaliser pre-set ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Valenni on 16 October 2013, 14:33
I will check this out and let you know, I have only ever used my own settings.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 16 October 2013, 14:34
Last year when I was obsessing about the "best" Dynaudio settings in my current GTD, I came across this thread:

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12803

Not sure if it's still relevant for Dynaudio in its latest incarnation in the Mk7, but makes interesting reading.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: matchboy on 16 October 2013, 14:42
Last year when I was obsessing about the "best" Dynaudio settings in my current GTD, I came across this thread:

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12803

Not sure if it's still relevant for Dynaudio in its latest incarnation in the Mk7, but makes interesting reading.

Very interesting.  But the OP seems to suggest turning the bass down to -5 - no thanks!!

I think you need to have a very trained ear to tell the differences in the detail in that post.  My ears are f7cked after years of going to clubs anyway, so i just turn up the bass and let the dynaudio do the rest!!

Joking aside though, I'll have a play later with the settings to see if it makes any difference based on the suggestions above and in that link - it is a fantastic system and well worth the money.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 16 October 2013, 14:44
We definitely need some user input to find the "perfect" EQ settings  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: matchboy on 16 October 2013, 14:54
We definitely need some user input to find the "perfect" EQ settings  :smiley:

Give me a few days.  Will have the car loaded up with sh!te tonight so no point me trying it out today as I'll have tables, metal stands etc with the seats down in the back - so that won't be the norm!  I'll try it out over the next few days once all that cr@p is out of the car!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: monsta on 16 October 2013, 21:22
the next time I go into the sound settings, it defaults to the user profile of the equaliser and not the Dynaudio pre-sets.

I can't be 100% sure if the sound character is being moved away from the pre-set back to the equaliser, but could someone else check this. If you set a pre set (and Dynamic is good for most pop / rock), then some time later (not immediately), check again and see if it defaults back to Dynamic or back to the equaliser pre-set ?

I think (and this is just from my test drive) that you can alter the settings for each media type, i.e. ipod/cd/radio/sd card etc?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Phil 117 on 17 November 2013, 10:10
Just been having a nose in this thread.

Surprisingly how many people seem not to be able to hear a different.

This was the top of my options as I'm in the car for the best part of 2 hours a day.

Just wanted to know if anyone's found the ideal setup? E.g. bass, treble, sub etc. Or does it vary on the music you listen.

I have two completely different tastes which don't go hand in hand. Tend to listen to pop/chart music on the way to work, and the way home I often listen to classical. Find the first pumps me up ready for work, and the latter allows me to relax and wind down.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: charlie on 17 November 2013, 10:19
Just been having a nose in this thread.

Surprisingly how many people seem not to be able to hear a different.

This was the top of my options as I'm in the car for the best part of 2 hours a day.

Just wanted to know if anyone's found the ideal setup? E.g. bass, treble, sub etc. Or does it vary on the music you listen.

I have two completely different tastes which don't go hand in hand. Tend to listen to pop/chart music on the way to work, and the way home I often listen to classical. Find the first pumps me up ready for work, and the latter allows me to relax and wind down.
i need to get int your calmer I tend to be chilled going in and wound up leaving mind you I suppose it's working for a company who has forgotten how to treat its staff :-) ps not long left before notice is handed in  :laugh:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: simonpolly on 17 November 2013, 12:30
Just been having a nose in this thread.

Surprisingly how many people seem not to be able to hear a different.

This was the top of my options as I'm in the car for the best part of 2 hours a day.

Just wanted to know if anyone's found the ideal setup? E.g. bass, treble, sub etc. Or does it vary on the music you listen.

I have two completely different tastes which don't go hand in hand. Tend to listen to pop/chart music on the way to work, and the way home I often listen to classical. Find the first pumps me up ready for work, and the latter allows me to relax and wind down.
There are already four pre-set modes for the dynaudio e.g easy listening,jazz ,speech etc, Dynaudio is far superior to the standard set up you get in VW cars
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: mjh_056 on 17 November 2013, 13:11
Just been having a nose in this thread.

Surprisingly how many people seem not to be able to hear a different.

This was the top of my options as I'm in the car for the best part of 2 hours a day.

Just wanted to know if anyone's found the ideal setup? E.g. bass, treble, sub etc. Or does it vary on the music you listen.

I have two completely different tastes which don't go hand in hand. Tend to listen to pop/chart music on the way to work, and the way home I often listen to classical. Find the first pumps me up ready for work, and the latter allows me to relax and wind down.
There are already four pre-set modes for the dynaudio e.g easy listening,jazz ,speech etc, Dynaudio is far superior to the standard set up you get in VW cars

Had 2 recent long solo runs and gave me opportunity to finally turn the music up and give it a good test and this is the standard out of the box GTD system - Though did play media off my Ipod via cable the best test was playing 'Dare' and 'Penthouse and Pavement' via CD and have to say there was no drop off from the BOSE I was running in my Audi, excellent clarity in picking out the sharper elements and shooting between the speakers quite nocticeably.

Music was up pretty loud at 60%, loud enough for me anyway! and Bass was without any distortion at al.

This is no sleight on the Dynaudio as never heard it and am sure it is as amazing as people state but the basic system is more than decent and you will not be disappointed at all if just like your music and not a commited audiophile.

As reference have a high end Denon with Seinheisser headphones for home use and know what these albums sound like at their best.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: jth_gti on 19 November 2013, 22:15
What Hi-Fi? have just reviewed the Dynaudio system - they seem to like it!

 http://www.whathifi.com/blog/dynaudio-excite-sound-system-review-%E2%80%93%C2%A0vw-golf-mk-7
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: 2014GTi on 19 November 2013, 22:48
 :cool: :grin: lovely review..... can't wait to get mine  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Mark V GTD on 19 November 2013, 23:33
Good to hear having just specced it!  but where did they get the name 'Excite' - never heard it called that before... ?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: 2014GTi on 19 November 2013, 23:38
Good to hear having just specced it!  but where did they get the name 'Excite' - never heard it called that before... ?
Volkswagen don't seem to state the DynAudio model names, that's what model it is.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Phil 117 on 20 November 2013, 09:30
Nice to hear than some audio connoisseurs rate it.

On a side note, in that review it said the Pro can take a 2TB SDXC Card! Did not know that.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: MajorKhan on 20 November 2013, 12:52
I think Dynoaudio can only be appreciated for its quality on a long journey possibly a 2 hour listen, only then you will be able to hear the true difference in sound.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: 2014GTi on 20 November 2013, 19:48
I think Dynoaudio can only be appreciated for its quality on a long journey possibly a 2 hour listen, only then you will be able to hear the true difference in sound.
Does 1hr 5mins to work then 1hr 5mins home count? Can't wait :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: corgi on 20 November 2013, 20:33
I think Dynoaudio can only be appreciated for its quality on a long journey possibly a 2 hour listen, only then you will be able to hear the true difference in sound.

I disagree, I'm sure that the significantly improved sound quality can be appreciated on any journey  :cool:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: noobmonkey on 20 November 2013, 20:56
kinda grateful hearing this :) - my 11 mins to work an back may kill the mpg, but not having dynaudio may be ok! :P

As i ordered a pre-built one on lease <GTD> - I didn't get a choice of options! - bahhh, but the standard car looks awesome, and generally, I'm sure the audio is fine :) :)

Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: JellyB on 22 November 2013, 21:15
Anyone try a bootliner with the dynaudio option?

I am just wondering if it will muffle it at all.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 23 November 2013, 21:32
Whilst we are discussing Dynaudio, for the others that already have it, I recently noticed what might be a bug (but then might be standard operation).

As you know, you have the option in the Dynaudio sound settings to either set the Bass, Middle and Treble via an Equaliser (Profile setting), or via using Dynaudio's own built in pre sets (Authentic, Dynamic, Voice etc). I noticed on mine, that if I set a pre set, say Dynamic, the next time I go into the sound settings, it defaults to the user profile of the equaliser and not the Dynaudio pre-sets.

I can't be 100% sure if the sound character is being moved away from the pre-set back to the equaliser, but could someone else check this. If you set a pre set (and Dynamic is good for most pop / rock), then some time later (not immediately), check again and see if it defaults back to Dynamic or back to the equaliser pre-set ?

Did you ever get to the bottom of this? Does yours still default to the user profile?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 21 January 2014, 01:14
Whilst we are discussing Dynaudio, for the others that already have it, I recently noticed what might be a bug (but then might be standard operation).

As you know, you have the option in the Dynaudio sound settings to either set the Bass, Middle and Treble via an Equaliser (Profile setting), or via using Dynaudio's own built in pre sets (Authentic, Dynamic, Voice etc). I noticed on mine, that if I set a pre set, say Dynamic, the next time I go into the sound settings, it defaults to the user profile of the equaliser and not the Dynaudio pre-sets.

I can't be 100% sure if the sound character is being moved away from the pre-set back to the equaliser, but could someone else check this. If you set a pre set (and Dynamic is good for most pop / rock), then some time later (not immediately), check again and see if it defaults back to Dynamic or back to the equaliser pre-set ?

Did you ever get to the bottom of this? Does yours still default to the user profile?


Mine keeps doing the same too!!

Any solution?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 21 January 2014, 01:15
Anyone try a bootliner with the dynaudio option?

I am just wondering if it will muffle it at all.

Seems to be ok with a bootliner  :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Brenbo on 21 January 2014, 08:17
Dynaudio is fine with a boot liner as it is only the sub in the boot and subs usually work better in enclosed or partially enclosed spaces.  My Bootliner does not affect the sound in the slightest. :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Sootchucker on 21 January 2014, 08:26
Agree, I have a VW boot liner in from day one, and I can't say I've noticed any difference between it being there and not with regards to bass response. TBH, most of the Bass seems to come from the door speakers as the sub in the boot isn't very powerful, but it does add a roundness to the sound without being overly boomy.

Absolutely loving the Dynaudio in the GTD !
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 21 January 2014, 09:06
Agree, I have a VW boot liner in from day one, and I can't say I've noticed any difference between it being there and not with regards to bass response. TBH, most of the Bass seems to come from the door speakers as the sub in the boot isn't very powerful, but it does add a roundness to the sound without being overly boomy.

Absolutely loving the Dynaudio in the GTD !

I agree there, the sub is not doing much at all. I have had to turn the bass up on the graphic to get the sound right on the system.  I dont think the bass is a s good as the Dynaudio on my Mk6, on the ote rhand that got better after a few weeks of use oddly!

Ian
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: V5Ade on 21 January 2014, 09:15
If you get Dynaudio, do you still get a spare wheel?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 21 January 2014, 09:24
If you get Dynaudio, do you still get a spare wheel?

Hi,  Yes the sub fits in the centre of the spare wheel

Ian
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: domrees on 21 January 2014, 12:05
I personally wouldn't order Dynaudio again, in the mid and high range its ok, but anything with a bit of bass and it seems to struggle.

There is also some vibration/distortion coming from one of the speakers which isnt helping.

On a side note I do find the interface for choosing songs etc is really backward, not as good as the Mk6.  It seems if I want to choose a song it is easier to do so using the iphone/ipod than the unit.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 21 January 2014, 12:31
I agree - the sub is a little disappointing. I tried raising the boot floor to the higher level, on the grounds that the sub has more air to move. I think it has improved bass response a little, but it might just be psychological!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: MajorKhan on 21 January 2014, 13:34
I plug in my usb , set it to dynamic, set the focus to centre and the its very low bass... good tweater....I purchased a sub before the car arrived and have no intention now of installing the sub!!1
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: V5Ade on 21 January 2014, 15:54
If you get Dynaudio, do you still get a spare wheel?

Hi,  Yes the sub fits in the centre of the spare wheel

Ian
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: GiT1984 on 21 January 2014, 17:09
Well I think it boils down to whether you value the (no doubt) improved sound quality or you're happy with the mediocre sound quality and power of the standard unit as the £500 cost isn't that significant on a circa £30K car ....

If you only ever listen to highly compressed MP3's then you're not going to get much value, but if it's Lossless or uncompressed audio (which only someone a little more "audiophile" might care about) then the Dynaudio might show a much bigger difference.

These "upgrades" do vary by car too, because I have the Bose upgrade in my Audi and it's good when you've played with the settings, but the Bose upgrade on my 981 Boxster is unreal when you turn off all the surround sound and system processing! Twice the power of the Audi (enough to make your ears ring) and so much clarity with no distortion at all .....

I ticked the Dynaudio box as I haven't had a "standard" sytem in any of my cars for years ..... it matters too much for me to accept mediocrity.
 
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: corgi on 21 January 2014, 17:12
I'm with GiT1984  :cool: but understand that other could care less... :laugh:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: JellyB on 21 January 2014, 18:33
Dynaudio is fine with a boot liner as it is only the sub in the boot and subs usually work better in enclosed or partially enclosed spaces.  My Bootliner does not affect the sound in the slightest. :smiley:

Thanks guys. When I Gert through the current liner I will grab one of the semi rigid liners then.

Or maybe that hatchbag as I've already damaged the tailgate inside with work related stuff.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: stu79 on 21 January 2014, 22:16
Agree, I have a VW boot liner in from day one, and I can't say I've noticed any difference between it being there and not with regards to bass response. TBH, most of the Bass seems to come from the door speakers as the sub in the boot isn't very powerful, but it does add a roundness to the sound without being overly boomy.

Absolutely loving the Dynaudio in the GTD !

I agree there, the sub is not doing much at all. I have had to turn the bass up on the graphic to get the sound right on the system.  I dont think the bass is a s good as the Dynaudio on my Mk6, on the ote rhand that got better after a few weeks of use oddly!

Ian

Agree with this, Dynaudio in my mk6 had better bass and I would also add a better all round sound. That said, like you, I found the sound in the mk6 changed over the first few months. Most speakers require a degree of running in and in their hi-fi range, Dynaudio state that, "A newly unpacked Dynaudio loudspeaker therefore requires several weeks running/ playing to reach its optimum performance capability. After that period, a couple of minutes before every listening session will be helpful to “warm up” the loudspeakers."

So I'm going to wait and see what happens, it's only likely to get better with time. :smiley:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: jivemonkey on 22 January 2014, 09:17
So far I've not been complete blown away by the Dynaudio on the Mk7 as I was when first trying it on the Mk6, for me there seems to be something amiss with the new setup.  I've been tweaking the 'profile' EQ hoping to get this a bit better - and have had a little success in that regard, but can't help feeling a little disappointed and short changed. I just can't get the same level of clarity and depth to the sound.

As clear and superb as it is, I'm beginning to think I won't be opting for it again on my next VW.

Also, is anyone else getting an incredibly annoying 'buzzing' all around the car at mid sound level? The bass is -3 and sub at 0, and this is only when only listening at approx. 50% volume. Most prominent with Stereophonics' 'Been caught cheating'. Pi**ing me off :angry:. Never had a single trim rattle or buzz with the Mk6!
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 22 January 2014, 09:45
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: monsta on 22 January 2014, 09:52
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian

Sub on Max?  I keep mine on 5.  Try lowering your mids if you want a deeper sound....
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 22 January 2014, 09:59
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian

Sub on Max?  I keep mine on 5.  Try lowering your mids if you want a deeper sound....

I dont think the sub really has much output anyway, especially if you have things in the boot.  I guess years of DJing in clubs has made my bass obsessed  :whistle:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Brenbo on 23 January 2014, 16:38
I had a closer look at my Dynaudio setup today. After playing with the settings for a while I noticed that the Individual EQ settings you enter are not instead of the Profiles (Dynamic, Authentic etc,) but as well as.  For example,  If the individual EQ settings are set to flat Bass 0, Mid 0 Treble 0 (default).  All Profiles sound as they should.  But if I set the EQ settings to unique values other than 0 the Profiles all sound as if they are adjusted.  Is this correct?

Am I to think of the Individual EQ settings as a way of fine tuning the existing Profiles supplied :huh:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Mk1Macca on 23 January 2014, 16:48
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian

Sub on Max?  I keep mine on 5.  Try lowering your mids if you want a deeper sound....

I dont think the sub really has much output anyway, especially if you have things in the boot.  I guess years of DJing in clubs has made me deaf :whistle:

I corrected it for you :)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 23 January 2014, 17:03
I thought that the 4 Profiles were completely preset, without the ability the change settings, and separate from the Individual EQ settings, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Brenbo on 23 January 2014, 17:18
I may be completely wrong, but the presets (profiles) are hard wired in and are unchangeable.  But if you want to tweak the sound produced by the preset profiles (without affecting their actual setup) you can adjust the EQ settings on the Individual mode to refine the sound produced.

There is a button in EQ which allows you to return the EQ to default (all on 0). As stated before I may be wrong so do not take this as gospel just may be my own misguided understanding, The profiles and Individual EQ modes are separate entities which combine to produce the final sound result.  For example if you think the sound of the 'Dynamic' Profile is a bit muddy on the mids you can go to Individual and set the mids EQ Band a little higher to increase the mids overall.  You should now hear the mids a bit clearer then if you go to another profile with the EQ bands remaining with the mids band adjusted you will notice all the Profiles are actual sounding as if the mids are set higher.  Now if you want ot return to the original sound produced by the profiles go to Individual and press the return to default button above the EQ Bands.  This will then return all EQ Bands to 0. 

Hence why I said the Profiles and Individual EQ settings are separate entitiies which combine to produce the final result. 

Can anyone clarify if I am on the right lines or completely wrong?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 23 January 2014, 17:43
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian

Sub on Max?  I keep mine on 5.  Try lowering your mids if you want a deeper sound....

I dont think the sub really has much output anyway, especially if you have things in the boot.  I guess years of DJing in clubs has made me deaf :whistle:

I corrected it for you :)

Lol cheeky. More like dead rather than deaf lol
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Peeair on 23 January 2014, 19:27
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian

Are there controls on the actual subwoofer in the boot, that let you adjust it's bass output independent to the bass settings then?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: jivemonkey on 23 January 2014, 19:29
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian

Are there controls on the actual subwoofer in the boot, that let you adjust it's bass output independent to the bass settings then?

Nope, there's an independent sub level (I think it goes from -5 to +5) in the sound menu.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Peeair on 23 January 2014, 19:37
Hi,

I have adjusted mine to bass +3 and the sub on max.  It seems to be better but still not quite as good as the mk6.

Ian

Are there controls on the actual subwoofer in the boot, that let you adjust it's bass output independent to the bass settings then?

Nope, there's an independent sub level (I think it goes from -5 to +5) in the sound menu.

That's interesting, I haven't seen that. I thought there was just the Bass, Mid and Treble settings?

I'll have a look tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 23 January 2014, 19:38
Last item in the main Sound menu page.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Brenbo on 24 January 2014, 10:04
I can also confirm there is a separate subwoofer slider as described at the bottom of the sound menu. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: AlanH on 24 January 2014, 17:27
I had a closer look at my Dynaudio setup today. After playing with the settings for a while I noticed that the Individual EQ settings you enter are not instead of the Profiles (Dynamic, Authentic etc,) but as well as.  For example,  If the individual EQ settings are set to flat Bass 0, Mid 0 Treble 0 (default).  All Profiles sound as they should.  But if I set the EQ settings to unique values other than 0 the Profiles all sound as if they are adjusted.  Is this correct?

Am I to think of the Individual EQ settings as a way of fine tuning the existing Profiles supplied :huh:

I had a play today. Went into Profiles and selected Authentic, then switched to Individual, where Bass, Mid and High were all set at 0. Adjusting those EQ settings did have an effect on the sound quality, but I'm still not sure if I'm tweaking the Authentic profile, or or creating a new Individual setting. I need to read the Dynaudio manual again.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 25 January 2014, 18:14
Hi. Does anyone know where the Dynaudio amp is? It was under the passenger seat on the mk6 but there's not enough room on the mk7 under seat.

Ian
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: cbx750p on 20 July 2014, 04:44
Hello !

found this thread and seems it have been quiet for months.  :sad:

I am trying to retrofit the Dynaudio on the Golf Mark 7.  Can someone help me with a complete scan of his/her Golf 7 originally fitted with the Dynaudio ?   :smiley:

Thank you so very much !

Jimmy
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: p3asa on 20 July 2014, 09:42
Hi. Does anyone know where the Dynaudio amp is? It was under the passenger seat on the mk6 but there's not enough room on the mk7 under seat.

Ian

There is certainly something under there with a plastic lid covering it.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Ginge 35Edition on 20 July 2014, 20:10
Bro has it in his and it's definitely better than my Edi was. Gutted the R can't be specked with it.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Booth11 on 20 July 2014, 23:21
Bro has it in his and it's definitely better than my Edi was. Gutted the R can't be specked with it.

You're not the only one that'll be gutted  :sad:

Ginge, have you been told Dynaudio is never likely to be available on the R then?
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Ginge 35Edition on 22 July 2014, 20:08
It's something to do with the lack of space due to the 4WD. Not a deal breaker for me, just listen to the engine instead :-)
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Booth11 on 22 July 2014, 20:49
It's something to do with the lack of space due to the 4WD. Not a deal breaker for me, just listen to the engine instead :-)

Yeah, I know there's a problem fitting it in the boot because of the Haldex system, but was hoping they'd work out a way sooner or later  :undecided:

Not a deal breaker for me either but would've been nice to have it.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: martin dy on 22 July 2014, 22:40
Dynaudio will be available on the R from BW45
http://www.rforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4075
Still impatiently waiting to put my order in :sad:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Booth11 on 22 July 2014, 23:11
Dynaudio will be available on the R from BW45
http://www.rforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4075
Still impatiently waiting to put my order in :sad:

Cheers.  That's great news.  I'd heard it was planned for BW45 also (and BW22 before that) but wasn't convinced it would happen.  Not ordering till early next year though so an even longer wait  :sad:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: wigit on 23 July 2014, 09:16
honestly i haven't missed Dynaudio, thought i would but no, quality always always a let down on dynaudio when playing mp3s etc
 
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: p3asa on 23 July 2014, 09:46
I never had Dynaudio in my Mk6 and thought the quality was excellent without it. However now I have it on the Mk7 I think its absolutely superb and would be a definite for the Mk8.

Crystal clear, punchy sound with absolutely no distorting and half way is more than enough volume for me. Its absolutely belting it out at that setting.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Booth11 on 23 July 2014, 11:12
Currently have it in my mk6 and agree it's never really lived up to expectation.  If it was the same system I'm not sure I'd bother with it again, but by all accounts the upgraded system in the mk7 is far superior, so if it's becoming available on the R then I'm willing to wait for it.
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: iandjm on 23 July 2014, 17:52
I never had Dynaudio in my Mk6 and thought the quality was excellent without it. However now I have it on the Mk7 I think its absolutely superb and would be a definite for the Mk8.

Crystal clear, punchy sound with absolutely no distorting and half way is more than enough volume for me. Its absolutely belting it out at that setting.

How odd as I would say the Dynaudio in my Mk6 was vastly superior to that in my MK7.  I find the bass gives up mid volume and leaves the sound tinny. The door speakers in the MK7 have very little punch, where as in the MK6 they had real power.  I appreciate there is now a sub in the boot, which should make up for this but the sub seems to be pretty weak.  :cry:
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: p3asa on 23 July 2014, 17:56
I never had the Dynaudio in the Mk6 so its hard to compare. The stock stereo on that was ok.
I'm not an audiophile by any manner of means but can appreciate a good sound and must say the Mk7 Dynaudio is way above my expectations.
Its way above the Audi Sound System that I came from. It was just mediocre if I'm honest. 
Title: Re: Dynaudio
Post by: Booth11 on 23 July 2014, 18:04
I never had Dynaudio in my Mk6 and thought the quality was excellent without it. However now I have it on the Mk7 I think its absolutely superb and would be a definite for the Mk8.

Crystal clear, punchy sound with absolutely no distorting and half way is more than enough volume for me. Its absolutely belting it out at that setting.

How odd as I would say the Dynaudio in my Mk6 was vastly superior to that in my MK7.  I find the bass gives up mid volume and leaves the sound tinny. The door speakers in the MK7 have very little punch, where as in the MK6 they had real power.  I appreciate there is now a sub in the boot, which should make up for this but the sub seems to be pretty weak.  :cry:

Hmmm, interesting, very subjective I suppose.  Well the only way find out is to spec it and then see if it's a disappointment or an improvement   :huh: