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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: madsb on 07 April 2013, 13:01

Title: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 07 April 2013, 13:01
Hey guys.
Bought an aftermarket kit for installing remote central locking (car doesn't even have central locking atm).

The utterly retarded plugs in the doors that the connections have to run through means that it would be way easier for me to use existing wiring in the door..

I figured that since the wiring looms etc. were all mass produced, there'd be unused wires that I could use.

So, if anyone knows what the wires in the following pictures are used for, I would greatly appreciate it :)
1:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/146975/2013-04-07%2012.45.51.jpg)

2:
(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/146975/2013-04-07%2013.03.15.jpg)
(the ones in the U-145 plug)

I know for sure, that neither of them can be the wires for interior lights when door is open, as I've tested for this.

So what can they be? My car doesn't have an alarm either.

The text on the second picture says immobiliser, which the car has, in Danish - could it be something related to this? Or is it simply proof, that the car has it? Didn't think the immobiliser did anything to the doors.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 07 April 2013, 13:15
Really need some help here fast, guys.. Would like this done before the end of the day:))
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: itavaltalainen on 07 April 2013, 14:55
get a multimeter and a haynes manual with wiring diagrams....

can't understand why you'd go for aftermarket central locking.... get original from VW and a remote FOB controller....
probably costs the same.
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 07 April 2013, 20:45
get a multimeter and a haynes manual with wiring diagrams....

can't understand why you'd go for aftermarket central locking.... get original from VW and a remote FOB controller....
probably costs the same.

Multimeter won't tell me if it's used for anything or what.

Couldn't find oem central locking .. this one was like 30 quid delivered anyway and had both solenoids and remote fob

Still would really appreciate if anyone knew what they are for..

cheers.
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: boneybradley on 07 April 2013, 21:19
try this http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=125715.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=125715.0)
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 08 April 2013, 09:12
Thanks but can't really make much of it..

Going to the local vw garage to ask them today :)
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: vr6D4v3 on 08 April 2013, 10:27
Look in the boot, near drivers side rear cluster and look for the central locking pump. You can do all of your wiring there, plus be able to see if you have cl or not.
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 08 April 2013, 19:32
Look in the boot, near drivers side rear cluster and look for the central locking pump. You can do all of your wiring there, plus be able to see if you have cl or not.

Thanks for the tip man. Basically this was what I did earlier at the dealer... Turns out there was central locking all along, one of the previous owners decided to f**k it up somehow though.... Alot of the wires by the pump have been spliced, and I can't make out what to do. Not sure what the guy has done..

Seeing as I'm already half way through with installing the new central locking, I guess I might as well finish it lol ... Now I have both a non-functioning central locking pump and aftermarket solenoids haha..

Cheers guys.
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: itavaltalainen on 08 April 2013, 20:23
fix the original pump....
easy to fix... can give you a wiring diagram if you need (email me)....

much better than a solenoid aftermarket solution.
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: boneybradley on 08 April 2013, 20:49
fix the original pump....
easy to fix... can give you a wiring diagram if you need (email me)....

much better than a solenoid aftermarket solution.

or better still a new pump and a section of the wiring.. I have a feeling the pump has broken (most likely a leaky pump or a split air wire?) and both will drain the battery as the pump will keep running as it can't register the air pressure correctly, and to solve they have chopped the wires rather than investigate a repair
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 08 April 2013, 21:38
fix the original pump....
easy to fix... can give you a wiring diagram if you need (email me)....

much better than a solenoid aftermarket solution.

or better still a new pump and a section of the wiring.. I have a feeling the pump has broken (most likely a leaky pump or a split air wire?) and both will drain the battery as the pump will keep running as it can't register the air pressure correctly, and to solve they have chopped the wires rather than investigate a repair

Thank you for the suggestions guys, ill have to consider it.. I'll upload a pic of the wire havoc tomorrow.. Maybe you can make sense of it..

In regards to the original wires in question, I can tell you that the connector with 4 wires is for the central locking mechanism in the door, and the one with the three wires is most likely for heated locks (what the vw dealer said anyway).
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 08 April 2013, 22:02
Heated locks on a mk3?  :huh:
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 09 April 2013, 06:19
Heated locks on a mk3?  :huh:

I thought the vw dealer who told me it might be wrong too.. but seems strange that the central locking mechanism should use 7 wires in the driver's door, so they must be for something else. Anyway, I'm gonna install the solenoids.. getting the pump to work again would be a hassle, and I don't know what I might end up breaking, with the existing wire splices and what they do and all.
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 09 April 2013, 06:21
also it seems to me that the pump system might be more prone to failure that the solenoid one, both due to its age and the technology
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: itavaltalainen on 09 April 2013, 08:37
i guess vw dealer may have meant heated door mirrors....

My old 2.0 mk3 estate GL spec was a "nordic" edition (i.e. cold weather model) and trust me, that certainly had no heated locks...

pneumatic system is not more prone to error imho..... my 94 mk3 as well as my 96 never had any issues with it.
not saying there aren't any but nothing that can't be solved (often just broken air pipes to corrosion on pump PCB - which in quite a few cases will work fine again after cleaning it with isopropyl alcohol)
Title: Re: Door wiring / installing central locking and remote
Post by: madsb on 09 April 2013, 12:55
i guess vw dealer may have meant heated door mirrors....

My old 2.0 mk3 estate GL spec was a "nordic" edition (i.e. cold weather model) and trust me, that certainly had no heated locks...

pneumatic system is not more prone to error imho..... my 94 mk3 as well as my 96 never had any issues with it.
not saying there aren't any but nothing that can't be solved (often just broken air pipes to corrosion on pump PCB - which in quite a few cases will work fine again after cleaning it with isopropyl alcohol)

Will try to look into if it could be heated mirrors, but I doubt it, since the connector is by the lock..