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Title: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 02 August 2005, 13:56
I'm just about change the oil in my valver as it's always around 100 degrees from normal driving which seems rather high to me. Probably cheap old oil which won't help!!

What grade of oil should be used on these babies ??

Dave
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Judderi on 02 August 2005, 13:59
Good question. Ive just changed the oil in mine. I asked for syntha silver from vw and i was just handed the 1st carton but now im wondering if its the right consistency? Do you get variations in syntha silver?
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 02 August 2005, 14:02
Yeah I'm guessing there are !

I had the same experience with my 8v though - just got handed the tub from my local 'stealer'. Seeing as the valver seems to be spending so much more time in the high revs (nothing to do with the driver ofcourse  :lipsrsealed: ) I wanted to make sure the grade is right or I'll be killer her slowly  :cry:
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: rubjonny on 02 August 2005, 14:22
Synta Silver is the one you want, 10W40 IIRC.

Its in a big silver bottle with 'Synta' written on it :grin:

Edit and get a genuine oil filter while you're there, the cheopo ones don't have the required over pressure & non-return valves!  GSF sell one listed as 'genuine' and vwspares sell a MANN filter which is oem quality :)
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: keefusg60 on 02 August 2005, 14:24
You can get it from GSF for about £15
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: rubjonny on 02 August 2005, 14:32
Yeah but u have to phone em for it, as it aint in the online shop. Check with VW too, as after postage it might not be much cheaper anyway :)
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: ...joe on 02 August 2005, 15:22
dave go to gsf up near sainsbury's they have it all in stock for cheap as. the genuine filter is around £3 and the oil is cheap too
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 02 August 2005, 15:27
Cheers lads !!

And Joe, I know expectly where the place is  :wink:

The guy in the shop always used to comment on the condition of my silver 8 valve, probably gonna be a while till the valver is up to the same standard !

Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: ...joe on 02 August 2005, 15:36
ha ha it looks cool from the pics. we should meet up again, you should come along to the fox last sunday in august, bbq, show and shine etc. get quite a good turn out nowadays......
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 02 August 2005, 15:46
I'm hopefully going to !!

Just depends on when the car's off to the bodyshop - found a pucker place in Worthing, not the cheapest but I've been promised a quality job and they're VeeDub nuts!

Campers - Golfs - even a Karman Ghia lurking on their premises :)
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: ...joe on 02 August 2005, 16:00
sounds good, you've got mail!!! :wink:
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Redbaron on 02 August 2005, 19:37
100 degrees perfectly normal aint it?

 :sad:
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: monzablue16v on 02 August 2005, 21:44
Bloody hope so!! :)
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Redbaron on 02 August 2005, 22:41
So do I lol!

Mine has hit 120 when thraping on motorway but 98-108 is normal when driving lanes and stuff.

MFA is a load of bollocks anyway.

32.1 mpg my arse! I worked it out at 24.5
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 03 August 2005, 08:41
Well I'm new to the 16v engine, so maybe I'm wrong !

My 8v would always been around 90 Degrees from normal driving - sure 120 degrees would pop up on a good tonking though  :grin:]

I'll hold fire on that oil change then as it's not due for one, I just thought the high temp was a sign she's carrying sh*t oil !
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: monzablue16v on 05 August 2005, 00:06
do it anyway mate if you don't know how good it is worth an hour ;)

You getting a respray the same colour? been thinking of doing mine but think I'll add some more metallic flecks for that glinty custom look! no big chav chunks tho!!! just vag metallic!
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 05 August 2005, 04:27
synta silver, and a genuine vag filter.

100 degrees is fine, as long as it doesn't go above the mid 20s and stay there then you will be ok, i personally would never run my engine hotter than 124-5 (although the current engine has never actually gone above 102 even uinder heavy load) A fresh oil change and new filter will sort it out a treat, oh and also as its a non return valve should keep the tappets happy as they will never completely dry out again.  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: rowlers on 05 August 2005, 08:02
I've read on another forum that synta gold is better for a valver?

I've silver in mine at the mo, and it runs great, no more noisy tappets!!

Whats your thoughts on SYnta gold for a valver then???
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 05 August 2005, 13:20
Gold is a bit too high grade for a valver tbh, its just not viscous enough. Its generally used in the high end performance engines I.E. 1.8Ts and R32 engines, i would personally stick too silver unless you are confident that the gold is going to do a good job in your engine.
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Judderi on 05 August 2005, 15:27
Do you have to specificly ask for a filter with a non return valve from vag or are all the vag filters for the valver fitted with the valve?
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 05 August 2005, 15:31
there are two, one with one without. Generally just ask for a Mk2 non return oil filter. the parts guy should know what you mean either that or he is a goobert.  :cool:
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: rubjonny on 05 August 2005, 16:10
All genuine filters from VAG will have the non-return valve in, they only have one type of filter for the 16v anyway!

If you get one from GSF there are several, just make sure you get the one with (genuine) next to it.  The ones sold by http://www.vwspares.co.uk are MANN filters, which are VAG quality items :)
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 05 August 2005, 16:17
The VAG dealers still have the two different types AFAIK, each one i have been in has given me the option. I think the ones without valves are being discontinued though. SO might just be back stock they are trying to clear.
Title: Re: MK2 Valver - what grade of oil ??
Post by: rubjonny on 05 August 2005, 16:41
There is only one type of filter listed on ETKA for the GTI 8v & 16v (and the carbed models too)
I think you might have been offered 2 different makes rather than one with & without the non-return valve.

The PG code engine has 2 listed for it, the one above and another type which looking at it it seems to have been discontinued.

There is another one listed for what I assume are Diesel models? (JP ME 1V JR MF RA SB)

Edit: Though thinking about it, my copy of ETKA is quite new so the other one you got offered may have been discontinued like you say and not be on my copy.  But the way I see it I doubt VAG would sell oil filters that could potentially starve the tappets of oil and make the car sound like a bag of spanners, I'm sure there would be complaints :)

Thinking about it even more though, the older MK2s didn't have hydralic tappets, so would they even need the top end non-return valve?  That could be why there are 2 types!  Ah isn't speculation a wonderfull thing :grin: