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Title: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Sootchucker on 05 April 2013, 23:29
Hi all, sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but I can't seem to find a definate answer.

On the GTI & GTD models with their standard fit xenon headlights, has anyone got a photo or animation showing what lights are actually included ?

What I mean by that is usually VW's come with one optic for dipped and Mainbeam, but on the golf it looks like there's another optic inside of the projector lens ? Is this a separate main beam (like on cars with halogen headlights), or is it still combined into the projector optic in the outside ? If that's the case, what is this inner lens for, and is that another "U" shaped LED DRL surrounding it or just a dummy ? See image below;

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/60742/volkswagen-golf-mk7-pictures/page/6/0
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 06 April 2013, 07:33
I'm not really sure i understand what your asking but although this video isn't a GTI/D it has the same lights, the first few seconds show whats what.

http://youtu.be/zwjMyjSKBc8

The main part of the headlight inside the U shaped LED drl is the dipped and main beam which is shutter controlled, hense the name "Bi-xenon", the other inner U shaped light does light up when your headlights are on but with less intensity and has a bulb in the middle which i think could be a parking light?

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps7f8152db.jpg)

Hope that helps? :wink:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: dubber36 on 06 April 2013, 08:34
Are the indicators under the red stripe then?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 06 April 2013, 08:48
Are the indicators under the red stripe then?

Looks like it, they are in the video.

Edit: yup, you can just see the orange in this picture.

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps0de478e3.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: dubber36 on 06 April 2013, 09:16
This is where it gets confusing. Your second picture appears to have a third lamp in the center of the cluster. Could this be a cornering lamp as the car also appears not to have fog lights?

Does anyone really know what the car they've ordered is going to look like yet?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Mr GTD on 06 April 2013, 10:24
This is where it gets confusing. Your second picture appears to have a third lamp in the center of the cluster. Could this be a cornering lamp as the car also appears not to have fog lights?

Does anyone really know what the car they've ordered is going to look like yet?

No probably not but James is going to the NEC either today or tomorrow so he will know in due course...
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 06 April 2013, 11:06
This is where it gets confusing. Your second picture appears to have a third lamp in the center of the cluster. Could this be a cornering lamp as the car also appears not to have fog lights?

Does anyone really know what the car they've ordered is going to look like yet?

Yeah, the one in the middle is the static cornering light as you can see the reflector is to the side of the bulb instead of behind it, the uk cars will have fog lights but won't be used for cornering like mk6 GT's do.

And yes i am off to the NEC tommorrow so will hopefully be up close to one. :tongue:

Is there anything in particular anyone wants a picture of and i'll do my best?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Andy B on 06 April 2013, 12:06
Can you get a picture of the boot with the boot floor lowered? The boot is far shallower than in the mk5 and I presume mk6, but apparently the floor can be lowered, but by how much?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 06 April 2013, 13:17
Can you get a picture of the boot with the boot floor lowered? The boot is far shallower than in the mk5 and I presume mk6, but apparently the floor can be lowered, but by how much?

This video at 5 mins in shows the boot quite well but i'll see if i can get a pic for you.

http://youtu.be/RxXnm0gfB1A

Actually found a pic on my phone. :cool:

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps7cd12b64.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jthgti on 06 April 2013, 13:44

Is there anything in particular anyone wants a picture of and i'll do my best?

Not a picture request as such, but if the Dynaudio is fitted, could you try and get a quick listen and see if a subwoofer is fitted please? Thanks :)
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: dubber36 on 14 April 2013, 10:57
I don't know if you've seen the picture in Mays VW Driver mag yet, but there is a picture of a GTI.

I'm not sure if it's a mock up, but it's white right hand drive, Registration number G7 VWW (which according to DVLA is a Blue 1.4). It has the headlights as pictured below as well as front fog lights.

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps0de478e3.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 14 April 2013, 11:49
This is the cover of this months CAR magazine, it's a left hand drive in the article as well! :D


(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps58b40008.jpg)

Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Exonian on 14 April 2013, 12:06
The G7 plate is just a standard press fleet plate that gets transferred from car to car.

I think the production xenons have just the two bulb thingys as that's what's on the GT demo at my local dealer.
The three bulb set up is probably a pre-production thing and costly to make as well as a bit ugly.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 14 April 2013, 12:27
The G7 plate is just a standard press fleet plate that gets transferred from car to car.

I think the production xenons have just the two bulb thingys as that's what's on the GT demo at my local dealer.
The three bulb set up is probably a pre-production thing and costly to make as well as a bit ugly.


The price list says the xenon lights have the static cornering function, that would make sense for the middle bulb? The one i saw at the gadget show had them fitted.


(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/DSC00412_zps50128e4b.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Sootchucker on 14 April 2013, 12:35
I downloaded the MK7 Golf self study manual from the VWErwin site (after paying a small fee), and from that its quite clear.

Outer lights are Xenon dipped and Mainbeam surrounded by their "U" shaped LED DRL.

Middle light is the static cornering light (halogen H7 bulb),

inner assembly is just a small LED parking light in the middle of the lens.

The document I'm referring to has a diagram of all the light units for the MK7 Golf, so if required I can post the picture later with the breakout descriptions ?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Exonian on 14 April 2013, 12:45
I downloaded the MK7 Golf self study manual from the VWErwin site (after paying a small fee), and from that its quite clear.

Outer lights are Xenon dipped and Mainbeam surrounded by their "U" shaped LED DRL.

Middle light is the static cornering light (halogen H7 bulb),

inner assembly is just a small LED parking light in the middle of the lens.

The document I'm referring to has a diagram of all the light units for the MK7 Golf, so if required I can post the picture later with the breakout descriptions ?

Interesting.

Please do post it up.

Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gryzor on 14 April 2013, 12:51
Thanks for the info. Norbreck21a,

Personally I like the look of the three light setup.  From the front you don't really notice the static cornering light, and from the side it adds something to the appearance.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 14 April 2013, 12:51
Has anyone read anything about them having Dynamic bend/cornering like the mk5/6 had? There are are a couple of videos that show it but nothing in the specifications.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxFoBxzXQvA&sns=em (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxFoBxzXQvA&sns=em)


This video from 5:34 talks about the lights and mentions dynamic bend xenons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTPVvediT8&sns=em (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTPVvediT8&sns=em)

I hope it does have it as it's a great feature, my old mans volvo has it and i love it!
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gryzor on 14 April 2013, 13:01
Can't say I have Jimble, but I'm loving the illumination in that cabin, looks very classy.  All those white buttons and dials with the red sub-lighting in the GTI is going to look stunning!

Agreed, it would be a great feature to have, but if all we get are static cornering lights, I'm cool with that - better than nothing as per my current car!
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Sootchucker on 14 April 2013, 17:34
Right then, from the Golf 7 Self Study Manual SSP517 - Golf 7 Electrical

Bi Xenon Headlights (with LED DRL's) - as fitted to UK GTI and GTD Models


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8648119011_86ab3d9a53_o.png) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8648119011/)
Bi xenon cornering (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8648119011/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Technical features
The bi-xenon headlight with dynamic cornering light (AFS, Advanced Front lighting System) features a daytime running light in a continuous U-shaped chain of 18 LEDs around the D3S xenon bulb.

The brightness of the LEDs is regulated according to the function being used (daytime running light or dipped beam).

The LED unit has been designed so that the entire LED chain is switched off in the unlikely event than one of the LEDs fails.
The power consumed by the LED chain when the driving lights are on totals approx. 4.4 watts (dimmed activation) and approx. 8.5 watts when the daytime running lights are on.

Bi Xenon Headlights (with LED DRL's) and DLA (Dynamic Light Assist)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8649221640_8436a87a9b_o.png) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8649221640/)
Bi xenon with DLA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8649221640/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Technical features
The dynamic light assist (DLA) incorporates the dynamic cornering light (AFS) and dynamic main beam control (MDF) functions.
The layout of the bulbs and the appearance of the bi-xenon headlight with advanced front lighting system (AFS) and dynamic main beam control (MDF) is the same as that of the bi-xenon headlight with AFS.

The design of the inside of this bi-xenon headlight is, however, different. It features a group of individually moveable screens which can be swivelled into the light cone cast by the main beam lamp.

The dynamic main beam control function, that is, the partial masking of certain areas of illumination, is implemented through a combination of the screens and the horizontal adjustment of the module.

Hope this helps ?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jules Winfield on 14 April 2013, 17:44
I hope the static cornering lights can be turned off with VCDS.  They look a bit daft to me if I see them as I'm walking/driving along - like the car has broken fog light.

I'm not a fan of DRLs either - that was the first thing I turned off on my Mark VI.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 14 April 2013, 17:53

Right then, from the Golf 7 Self Study Manual SSP517 - Golf 7 Electrical

Bi Xenon Headlights (with LED DRL's) - as fitted to UK GTI and GTD Models


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8648119011_86ab3d9a53_o.png) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8648119011/)
Bi xenon cornering (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8648119011/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Technical features
The bi-xenon headlight with dynamic cornering light (AFS, Advanced Front lighting System) features a daytime running light in a continuous U-shaped chain of 18 LEDs around the D3S xenon bulb.

The brightness of the LEDs is regulated according to the function being used (daytime running light or dipped beam).

The LED unit has been designed so that the entire LED chain is switched off in the unlikely event than one of the LEDs fails.
The power consumed by the LED chain when the driving lights are on totals approx. 4.4 watts (dimmed activation) and approx. 8.5 watts when the daytime running lights are on.

Bi Xenon Headlights (with LED DRL's) and DLA (Dynamic Light Assist)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8649221640_8436a87a9b_o.png) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8649221640/)
Bi xenon with DLA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8649221640/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Technical features
The dynamic light assist (DLA) incorporates the dynamic cornering light (AFS) and dynamic main beam control (MDF) functions.
The layout of the bulbs and the appearance of the bi-xenon headlight with advanced front lighting system (AFS) and dynamic main beam control (MDF) is the same as that of the bi-xenon headlight with AFS.

The design of the inside of this bi-xenon headlight is, however, different. It features a group of individually moveable screens which can be swivelled into the light cone cast by the main beam lamp.

The dynamic main beam control function, that is, the partial masking of certain areas of illumination, is implemented through a combination of the screens and the horizontal adjustment of the module.

Hope this helps ?



Thanks for that mate, very helpful! So it looks like the UK have to do without the active headlights then! :'( 




I hope the static cornering lights can be turned off with VCDS.  They look a bit daft to me if I see them as I'm walking/driving along - like the car has broken fog light.

I'm not a fan of DRLs either - that was the first thing I turned off on my Mark VI.


The mk7 doesn't use the fogs as cornering lights so you probably won't see them anyway.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: chrisw2 on 01 August 2013, 17:41
Can any owner of a UK mk7 GTi/GTD confirm what lights up when you operate the "headlight flash" lever?

Is it different with headlights already on vs only driving lights on?

I'm assuming it will be both halogen static cornering bulbs that are used (due to the warm up required for xenon bulbs).
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gordor on 01 August 2013, 20:13
This is where it gets confusing. Your second picture appears to have a third lamp in the center of the cluster. Could this be a cornering lamp as the car also appears not to have fog lights?

Does anyone really know what the car they've ordered is going to look like yet?

Yeah, the one in the middle is the static cornering light as you can see the reflector is to the side of the bulb instead of behind it, the uk cars will have fog lights but won't be used for cornering like mk6 GT's do.

And yes i am off to the NEC tommorrow so will hopefully be up close to one. :tongue:

Is there anything in particular anyone wants a picture of and i'll do my best?


Jimble, would you mind getting a picture of the rear diffuser* on a GTD please? *spelling?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: mike. on 01 August 2013, 21:30
Can any owner of a UK mk7 GTi/GTD confirm what lights up when you operate the "headlight flash" lever?

Is it different with headlights already on vs only driving lights on?

I'm assuming it will be both halogen static cornering bulbs that are used (due to the warm up required for xenon bulbs).

It will probably be like the MK6 Xenons which use the Xenons for the headlight Flash.
The bulbs used are D1S which are instant on as they are pre-charged via the electronics built into the bulb.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 01 August 2013, 22:01
This is where it gets confusing. Your second picture appears to have a third lamp in the center of the cluster. Could this be a cornering lamp as the car also appears not to have fog lights?

Does anyone really know what the car they've ordered is going to look like yet?

Yeah, the one in the middle is the static cornering light as you can see the reflector is to the side of the bulb instead of behind it, the uk cars will have fog lights but won't be used for cornering like mk6 GT's do.

And yes i am off to the NEC tommorrow so will hopefully be up close to one. :tongue:

Is there anything in particular anyone wants a picture of and i'll do my best?


Jimble, would you mind getting a picture of the rear diffuser* on a GTD please? *spelling?

Next time i see one mate i will do but i haven't got one atm, i'll have a rummage and see if i can fond one unless someone beats me to it.  :wink:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: chrisw2 on 01 August 2013, 22:09
It will probably be like the MK6 Xenons which use the Xenons for the headlight Flash.
The bulbs used are D1S which are instant on as they are pre-charged via the electronics built into the bulb.
Thanks, Mike

I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 August 2013, 22:13
Don't be put off by some people, ask away after all that's what a forum is for.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: mike. on 01 August 2013, 22:17
It will probably be like the MK6 Xenons which use the Xenons for the headlight Flash.
The bulbs used are D1S which are instant on as they are pre-charged via the electronics built into the bulb.
Thanks, Mike

I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.

No problems Chris, not sure what the problem was, this is a forum and you asked a question.

Have you ordered a GTI/GTD ?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 01 August 2013, 23:59
I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.

Oops :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 02 August 2013, 00:21
It will probably be like the MK6 Xenons which use the Xenons for the headlight Flash.
The bulbs used are D1S which are instant on as they are pre-charged via the electronics built into the bulb.
Thanks, Mike

I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.

Crikey! Delete your account because someone asked you to say please??

Keep calm and join in..... :wink:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gordor on 02 August 2013, 06:06
This is where it gets confusing. Your second picture appears to have a third lamp in the center of the cluster. Could this be a cornering lamp as the car also appears not to have fog lights?

Does anyone really know what the car they've ordered is going to look like yet?

Yeah, the one in the middle is the static cornering light as you can see the reflector is to the side of the bulb instead of behind it, the uk cars will have fog lights but won't be used for cornering like mk6 GT's do.

And yes i am off to the NEC tommorrow so will hopefully be up close to one. :tongue:

Is there anything in particular anyone wants a picture of and i'll do my best?


Jimble, would you mind getting a picture of the rear diffuser* on a GTD please? *spelling?

Next time i see one mate i will do but i haven't got one atm, i'll have a rummage and see if i can fond one unless someone beats me to it.  :wink:


Thanks Jimble, or anyone else who can. I still, yet haven't managed to see one in the flesh... the benefits of living in the middle of nowhere I guess  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gryzor on 02 August 2013, 08:40
Thanks, Mike

I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.

Hi mate, welcome to the forums!  As others have said, don't leave on account (no pun intended!) of what happened.  Things can get a bit too Politically Correct at times, but at the end of the day these are forums to discuss things and ask questions.  I saw nothing wrong with your original post at all - your question was descriptive, and not rude or abrupt.  For me, certainly in a forum, there is an implied appreciation at the point of asking a question, with actual thanks being provided if/when somebody makes the effort to reply appropriately.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: CraigW on 02 August 2013, 10:36
It will probably be like the MK6 Xenons which use the Xenons for the headlight Flash.
The bulbs used are D1S which are instant on as they are pre-charged via the electronics built into the bulb.
Thanks, Mike

I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.

Im afraid you need a thicker skin on these forums pal.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gordor on 02 August 2013, 22:08
It will probably be like the MK6 Xenons which use the Xenons for the headlight Flash.
The bulbs used are D1S which are instant on as they are pre-charged via the electronics built into the bulb.
Thanks, Mike

I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.

Im afraid you need a thicker skin on these forums pal.


Says the fella who already has his new Golf, while the rest of us are sat here drooling  :drool: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: CraigW on 02 August 2013, 22:15
It will probably be like the MK6 Xenons which use the Xenons for the headlight Flash.
The bulbs used are D1S which are instant on as they are pre-charged via the electronics built into the bulb.
Thanks, Mike

I've asked for my account to be deleted, so thanks to anybody else that answers.

Im afraid you need a thicker skin on these forums pal.


Says the fella who already has his new Golf, while the rest of us are sat here drooling  :drool: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gryzor on 03 August 2013, 09:08
What happened?  What was the BIG event, other than a touchy geezer with no manners.

Seriously all I said was please and thanks, on someones first ever post in my mind when asking questions that is generally good manners  :rolleyes:

I digress from the original post and will now move on.

A guy makes one nicely articulate post, asking a question but because they didn't say "many thanks in anticipation of your warm welcome and continued support" (I know, that was OTT on purpose), you brand them as having no manners.  It's also the abrupt way you did it, and added the rolling eyes.  It was uncalled for and would have probably put me off bothering with the forums had I been in their shoes.

Anyway, you are right, this is digressing.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Fabio Bignose on 03 August 2013, 11:47
Running Man,

I'm sure I remember you insulting Bear and Matchboy (correct me if I'm wrong) in the not so distant past with anything other than manners!!!

Of course we are all allowed our opinions but in this situation you are out of order.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 03 August 2013, 14:46
I'm surprised that the UK cars are coming with active xenons when there is no mention of it in the brochure/price list? Seems it'd be quite a nice selling point? ???
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Gryzor on 03 August 2013, 17:28
That was a misunderstanding, I like and respect everyone on here.

I have Xenons on the m6, I love the way they dance when you switch on, the LED's still look ace now and IMO just as good as the new Mk7 LED's  :smiley:

Aww, pre-edit we love you too Running Man ;)

I've had xenons on a previous car, but the only dance has been a quick up-and-down shuffle.  Looking forward to the Mk7 xenons :)
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: DougL on 04 December 2013, 19:05

Right then, from the Golf 7 Self Study Manual SSP517 - Golf 7 Electrical

Bi Xenon Headlights (with LED DRL's) - as fitted to UK GTI and GTD Models


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8648119011_86ab3d9a53_o.png) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8648119011/)
Bi xenon cornering (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8648119011/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Technical features
The bi-xenon headlight with dynamic cornering light (AFS, Advanced Front lighting System) features a daytime running light in a continuous U-shaped chain of 18 LEDs around the D3S xenon bulb.

The brightness of the LEDs is regulated according to the function being used (daytime running light or dipped beam).

The LED unit has been designed so that the entire LED chain is switched off in the unlikely event than one of the LEDs fails.
The power consumed by the LED chain when the driving lights are on totals approx. 4.4 watts (dimmed activation) and approx. 8.5 watts when the daytime running lights are on.

Bi Xenon Headlights (with LED DRL's) and DLA (Dynamic Light Assist)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8649221640_8436a87a9b_o.png) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8649221640/)
Bi xenon with DLA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/58190042@N03/8649221640/) by Sootchucker (http://www.flickr.com/people/58190042@N03/), on Flickr

Technical features
The dynamic light assist (DLA) incorporates the dynamic cornering light (AFS) and dynamic main beam control (MDF) functions.
The layout of the bulbs and the appearance of the bi-xenon headlight with advanced front lighting system (AFS) and dynamic main beam control (MDF) is the same as that of the bi-xenon headlight with AFS.

The design of the inside of this bi-xenon headlight is, however, different. It features a group of individually moveable screens which can be swivelled into the light cone cast by the main beam lamp.

The dynamic main beam control function, that is, the partial masking of certain areas of illumination, is implemented through a combination of the screens and the horizontal adjustment of the module.

Hope this helps ?



Thanks for that mate, very helpful! So it looks like the UK have to do without the active headlights then! :'( 




I hope the static cornering lights can be turned off with VCDS.  They look a bit daft to me if I see them as I'm walking/driving along - like the car has broken fog light.

I'm not a fan of DRLs either - that was the first thing I turned off on my Mark VI.


The mk7 doesn't use the fogs as cornering lights so you probably won't see them anyway.

Actually it does.... The centre light between the bi-xenon and the parking led comes on below speeds of 10km/h. It's an H7 light as you can see in the picture and it is definitely active in mine as you can see in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqXqr8KLG0

The reason I've resurrected this thread is that the yellow colour of the cornering lights is annoying me compared to the white light of the xenons, so I've just ordered a set of blue H7s.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: GrahamFR on 04 December 2013, 20:11
I'm skipping to the end here so apologies if this has already been answered but is the orange glow in the cluster from the bulb or from the cluster itself, ie. Can I buy a chrome coated indicator bulb to get rid of it?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 04 December 2013, 20:15
I'm skipping to the end here so apologies if this has already been answered but is the orange glow in the cluster from the bulb or from the cluster itself, ie. Can I buy a chrome coated indicator bulb to get rid of it?


I had a look at this, it's a clear bulb with an orange plastic lens so nothing you can do about the orange in the headlamp. :(
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: GrahamFR on 04 December 2013, 20:39
Well that's a shame but never mind, thanks jimble
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: GrahamFR on 05 December 2013, 07:50
Whilst on the subject, is the H7 a horrible yellow bulb and will it need replacing with an Mtec or does it already match the xenon?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 December 2013, 07:51
Standard H7 is quite yellow, swapped mine out for Osram Nightbreaker plus.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Sootchucker on 05 December 2013, 07:52
+1 (above)
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Post by: GrahamFR on 05 December 2013, 07:54
I see thanks for the quick reply, i always like cosmos blue over the osrams, i know its not a good example but you can see how nice the mtec is here http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138890
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: GrahamFR on 08 December 2013, 12:21
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/DSC_0085_zpsabc9603d.jpg)(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/DSC_0084_zps9c492edf.jpg)(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/DSC_0087_zpsada8a22d.jpg)
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: GrahamFR on 08 December 2013, 12:22
Normal middle, mtec cosmos blue bottom and the bulb On the right in case anyone wants to see what it looks like
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Post by: watson on 08 December 2013, 12:53
 ^^^^
Thanks for taking the trouble to post pics / details.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: GrahamFR on 08 December 2013, 12:56
It was no trouble at all, plus they were the easiest bulb ever to change, they simply pop in and out
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Post by: Ian.C on 08 December 2013, 15:52
Yes...those pictures are exactly what I needed as well...

Thanks for the effort..
Ian
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Post by: 2014GTi on 08 December 2013, 18:25
So as it stands we have the following light modifications which can be done on our GTD/GTi's...

Glovebox LED
Boot LED
Vanity Mirrors LED x2

And one of the following...

Phillips Blue Vision
Osram Nightbreaker Plus
Mtec

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: anilberke on 08 December 2013, 19:02
So as it stands we have the following light modifications which can be done on our GTD/GTi's...

Glovebox LED
Boot LED
Vanity Mirrors LED x2

And one of the following...

Phillips Blue Vision
Osram Nightbreaker Plus
Mtec

 :rolleyes:

And by coding you can enable parking lights like the u.s. versions (amber) . Coded it to %30.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img545/4195/fkio.jpg)
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Post by: monsta on 08 December 2013, 19:17
So as it stands we have the following light modifications which can be done on our GTD/GTi's...

Glovebox LED
Boot LED
Vanity Mirrors LED x2

And one of the following...

Phillips Blue Vision
Osram Nightbreaker Plus
Mtec

 :rolleyes:

Is it just me that thinks the indicators on the front should be LED too?
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 08 December 2013, 19:44
So as it stands we have the following light modifications which can be done on our GTD/GTi's...

Glovebox LED
Boot LED
Vanity Mirrors LED x2

And one of the following...

Phillips Blue Vision
Osram Nightbreaker Plus
Mtec

 ::)

Is it just me that thinks the indicators on the front should be LED too?


Nope, i agree. They're LED's on the R so perhaps it's one of the things they've changed to differenciate the two?
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Post by: monsta on 09 December 2013, 12:01


Nope, i agree. They're LED's on the R so perhaps it's one of the things they've changed to differenciate the two?

Yeah, possibly.

Might pull the bulb out and see if I can get an LED replacement one so at least it will turn on/off as sharply as others...
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Post by: 2014GTi on 09 December 2013, 12:02


Nope, i agree. They're LED's on the R so perhaps it's one of the things they've changed to differenciate the two?

Yeah, possibly.

Might pull the bulb out and see if I can get an LED replacement one so at least it will turn on/off as sharply as others...
Let us know if you find a LED replacement and if it works with the cars CAN BUS etc  :cool:
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: JamesR27 on 10 December 2013, 16:43
Eurocarparts doing an offer for the static cornering lights possibly.

Deal of the Day! Osram Night Breaker Unlimited Bulbs - Only £17.49

http://www.eurocarparts.com/mobile/ecp/p/car-accessories/car-accessories-products/lighting-accessories/upgrade-headlamp-bulbs/?48177022N&0&cc5_847
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Post by: stuart.cameron on 16 December 2013, 11:15
Seem to be £16 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/OSRAM-NIGHT-BREAKER-UNLIMITED-Headlight/dp/B00EPLCPRG
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Post by: stuart.cameron on 16 December 2013, 11:20
Just ordered some :)
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Post by: jivemonkey on 16 December 2013, 12:37
And by coding you can enable parking lights like the u.s. versions (amber) . Coded it to %30.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img545/4195/fkio.jpg)

Hi guys, great thread. I have some Philips Blue Vision which I had on the Mk6 and will be removing for part-ex, happy to hear they will come in handy on the GTD!

Quick question though, the fogs in this picture, when are they on? Sounds silly but are they only on when switched on from the cabin? The car looks awesome with them on and seems a waste not to use them when there isn't any fog!

Glad to see we get the dynamic cornering xenons too, I think that was the conclusion, can't wait to see these in action.
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: Jimble on 16 December 2013, 13:02
The fogs are controlled by the switch in the car the same as your mk6 mate.
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Post by: jivemonkey on 16 December 2013, 13:07
Thanks Jimble - thought that might be the case. Will have to add the leaving home fog light tweak to my list of VCDS mods, along with some other goodies no doubt.. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Gnasher on 17 December 2013, 08:08
I wonder if there is a VCDS tweak to allow the front fogs to come on to supplement main beam?

Much as the car has both active headlights and static cornering lights, I always used to switch on my fogs when I had high beam on down unlit country roads as it used to light up the verges really well. It might be not so much of a problem with all the lighting tech on the car but would be nice to know.

EDIT - and the last thing I want to be is one of those throbbers who drives round with the front fogs on all the time lol!
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: GrahamFR on 17 December 2013, 08:24
I wonder if there is a VCDS tweak to allow the front fogs to come on to supplement main beam?

Much as the car has both active headlights and static cornering lights, I always used to switch on my fogs when I had high beam on down unlit country roads as it used to light up the verges really well. It might be not so much of a problem with all the lighting tech on the car but would be nice to know.

EDIT - and the last thing I want to be is one of those throbbers who drives round with the front fogs on all the time lol!

I remember seeing this option on the Leon, so it should be possible but I can't see a guide On scn anywhere
Title: Re: GTi & GTD xenon headlights
Post by: jivemonkey on 17 December 2013, 08:38
I wonder if there is a VCDS tweak to allow the front fogs to come on to supplement main beam?


I'd also be interested in this..even better if it could be coded to allow MFD enable/ disable.