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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: welshdean on 02 April 2013, 17:37

Title: the bastard sump !
Post by: welshdean on 02 April 2013, 17:37
Hi all,

I've decided to try and take my sump off today to replace it.
I undone all the bolts around the edges and the three large bolts where connecting to gearbox.
 But inbetween the sump and gearbox is 4 more 10mm bolts which are a right f**king nightmare to get to.

Well when I was trying to undo the f**k*rs the socket dropped down inside and cannot be retrieved . It's not fully in the sump or fully in the gearbox. It's stuck in the recess somewhere of the sump moulding.

My question....

As I can't get the sump off because of two rounded bolts , is the loose socket likely to caause damage to the gearbox ?

Or does the gearbox have some protection from all sides . Because I can't get the socket back  :sick:
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: GTi_James on 02 April 2013, 17:38
 :shocked:  :shocked:  :shocked:

mate i wish i lived in cardiff to watch you tinker about lol

i'd leave well alone until you either manage to get the bolts undone or  :sick: drill :sick: the feckers out  :lipsrsealed:

EDIT:

where is the socket, inside the sump?
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: AD1.8T on 02 April 2013, 17:41
You need a ball headed allen key to take them out.... With regards to dropping the socket good luck i done the same took about 45 mins to dig it out i refused to take the same off again to get to it !
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: welshdean on 02 April 2013, 17:49
How did you manage to get it out in the end mate, because I can't scoop the f**k*r out
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: AD1.8T on 02 April 2013, 17:59
I actually dropped a bolt down there not a socket it got stupidily stuck i used a mirror coat hanger magnet anything to hand that i felt would work was the most frustrating thing to do ever !
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: GTi_James on 02 April 2013, 18:01
go to your local DIY and get a telescopic flexi claw, its about a 10er and works a treat at grabbing things
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: Nino on 02 April 2013, 18:43
awwwwww mate :(
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: welshdean on 02 April 2013, 18:53
Nino, I'm having no luck mate . It's got to be something to do with all these green cars  :whistle:
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: Dave_IOW on 02 April 2013, 18:58
I did the same thing, think you will find its on a mounting bracket, not in your sump.

You can undo the bolts with a 10mm socket on one of those things that lets you undo bolts round corners, can't remember the name of it! Elbow extension???

Don't take my word that it's not in there though, don't want to be liable for any damage :laugh:
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: welshdean on 02 April 2013, 19:02
Well I got a funny feeling that it's not actually in the sump as such but on the outside stuck in the weird shape moulding part. But my concern is whether or not it can actually get into the gear box atall ?
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: rio_gti on 02 April 2013, 23:47
I did the same as AD1.8t and dropped one of the bolts in.... Twice!!!... Is a pig to get out but can be done... I wouldn't leave it in there do your best to get it out
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: Chambo on 04 April 2013, 16:14


You can undo the bolts with a 10mm socket on one of those things that lets you undo bolts round corners, can't remember the name of it! Elbow extension???


Is it not a U.J (universal joint)?
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: Dave_IOW on 04 April 2013, 17:19


You can undo the bolts with a 10mm socket on one of those things that lets you undo bolts round corners, can't remember the name of it! Elbow extension???


Is it not a U.J (universal joint)?

May very well be just that!
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: welshdean on 04 April 2013, 17:33
Hooray, I managed to get this poxy socket out. And my sump is now sorted  :smiley:
Title: Re: the fatherless son sump !
Post by: Dave_IOW on 04 April 2013, 17:47
Hooray, I managed to get this poxy socket out. And my sump is now sorted  :smiley:

Good news :afro: