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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: vwwvgolf on 25 March 2013, 15:58
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hello,
i purchased a set of early original vr6 bbs's with a et43 6.5j.
went to get them on today and they will not clear the calipers. ive got a late 16v, so i believe i the 288 vr6 brakes.
i ran down to halfords to get some 5 mm spacers to see if this would help bit it was still catching.
if i buy some 10mm hubcentric spacers with longer wheel bolts will this cure my issue??
also, why do vr6 alloys not fit over the calipers?? i cnt figure it out!!!!!!
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What is your car? What year?
Sorry late 16v you've got. That's shocking :shocked:
I Would have thought they would fit.
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All vr6 have 288 brakes. I don't think you have vr6 wheels.
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All vr6 have 288 brakes. I don't think you have vr6 wheels.
Which wheels have you bought. The BBS Solitude or the other one's with so many spokes :grin:
They both should fit without a problem, Looks like you have bought some other bbs rims. post up a pic.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-MK3-Golf-VR6-15-BBS-5-Stud-5x100-alloy-wheels-1H0-601-025-G-/271172255870?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&fits=Cars+Type%3A2.8+VR6&hash=item3f2320407e
exactly the same as these.
got same part number
just checked mine and got bbs logo on the back and a vw logo
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-MK3-Golf-VR6-15-BBS-5-Stud-5x100-alloy-wheels-1H0-601-025-G-/271172255870?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_Car_Wheels_ET&fits=Cars+Type%3A2.8+VR6&hash=item3f2320407e
exactly the same as these.
got same part number
just checked mine and got bbs logo on the back and a vw logo
Them are the early vr6 bbs wheels. But again they should have fit. Try 10mm spacers and see if they make a difference. But i'm still not convinced they don't fit :lipsrsealed:
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lol seriously :sad:
ive actually just had them refurbished, and was at a garage having my tyres swooped onto them.
had 6 blokes standing around trying to figure it out.
calipers arent all dirty and rusty.
they been professionally refurbished so have been chemically stripped so its not coz theres layers and layer of paint.
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I have those exact wheels from one of my previous golfs (RIP) fitted with 288s and there was no problem with them...
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Maybe corrado vr6 wheels?
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Maybe corrado vr6 wheels?
as far as i can tell from googling, and i may very well be wrong, these style bbs's came on g60 which was 4 stud not 5, so would be obvious that it wasn't going to fit..
am i right in thinking people get over caliper issues by using spacers??
if so how bigger spacer can i go with causing rubbage? im lowered 50 on the front.
or do i just get the grinder out?? ( not my favorite option)
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How fresh are your pads? No point getting it to clear couple of mm if you pads are old! Fit new ones!
Then I would take some messurements to see what spacer you need. And you can loose few mm with a grinder.
Think 15mm spacer and some negative will be close!
So 10mm and grinder might be better but as I said you need new pads to take measurements. I need 14mm to clear my wheels.
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the pads are fairly new, defiantly got alot of life left in them.
ill get back out there tomorrow and have a look about
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a lot of people have issues with 15's when fitting new pads on 288's as it is really tight (I was going to borrow a set of 15's but they caught and as they were only a temp fix, I decided not to bother)...
many just grind the corner of the calliper (a bit)
I will try and get some measures of o.e pads and after markets to see if that's what the issue is (maybe the after market being a couple of mm thicker?)
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a lot of people have issues with 15's when fitting new pads on 288's as it is really tight (I was going to borrow a set of 15's but they caught and as they were only a temp fix, I decided not to bother)...
many just grind the corner of the calliper (a bit)
I will try and get some measures of o.e pads and after markets to see if that's what the issue is (maybe the after market being a couple of mm thicker?)
I've got mk3 longbeaches on mine and I renewed my front brake pads (aftermarket) and they work fine. Not had a problem at all. And it's the same size wheel as op bbs.
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a lot of people have issues with 15's when fitting new pads on 288's as it is really tight (I was going to borrow a set of 15's but they caught and as they were only a temp fix, I decided not to bother)...
many just grind the corner of the calliper (a bit)
I will try and get some measures of o.e pads and after markets to see if that's what the issue is (maybe the after market being a couple of mm thicker?)
I've got mk3 longbeaches on mine and I renewed my front brake pads (aftermarket) and they work fine. Not had a problem at all. And it's the same size wheel as op bbs.
But a totally different design! :rolleyes:
The long beach are flat spoke designed to give clearance. Them BBS wheels are total opposite! You need strength in wheels and having thin spokes means they need to be thick! Hence clearance issue.
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a lot of people have issues with 15's when fitting new pads on 288's as it is really tight (I was going to borrow a set of 15's but they caught and as they were only a temp fix, I decided not to bother)...
many just grind the corner of the calliper (a bit)
I will try and get some measures of o.e pads and after markets to see if that's what the issue is (maybe the after market being a couple of mm thicker?)
I've got mk3 longbeaches on mine and I renewed my front brake pads (aftermarket) and they work fine. Not had a problem at all. And it's the same size wheel as op bbs.
But a totally different design! :rolleyes:
The long beach are flat spoke designed to give clearance. Them BBS wheels are total opposite! You need strength in wheels and having thin spokes means they need to be thick! Hence clearance issue.
Now I see sense :cool:
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Just put a bigger spacer on, i dont see the problem. ET43 with a 10mm spacer bringing it out to 33 you wont have any rubbing issues! my winters are 6.5 with 205/55 balloons on et38 and theres about 4mm caliper clearance and could easily space 10mm.
And excuse my ignorance but changing the pads wont move the caliper?? its bolted in place the piston is the only thing that sinks further into the caliper. You can shave a few MM of the caliper aswell as mentioned, id just space the wheels. Will look better for it aswell!
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Just put a bigger spacer on, i dont see the problem. ET43 with a 10mm spacer bringing it out to 33 you wont have any rubbing issues! my winters are 6.5 with 205/55 balloons on et38 and theres about 4mm caliper clearance and could easily space 10mm.
And excuse my ignorance but changing the pads wont move the caliper?? its bolted in place the piston is the only thing that sinks further into the caliper. You can shave a few MM of the caliper aswell as mentioned, id just space the wheels. Will look better for it aswell!
I will excuse your ignorance but not your stupidity :grin: :grin: :grin:
Your talking about a twin pot or four pot caliper. Single pots that are stanard on the mk3 is a sliding caliper and yes they do move in when the pads are low!
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Apologies then sir :grin:
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used the 2 5mm spacers on one side and its now clearing with enough room for my liking, so ordered some hubcentric 10mm spacers and some longer bolts.
if it catches when it comes to new pads ill have to get the grinder on it.
now ive got 2 5mm spacers, im going to put them on the back but they are only halfrauds ones. is it best to just not use them as they not hubcentric and i will need longer bolts for them too???
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Halfords :wink:
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You don't need hubcentric when that small because the wheel will seat on the hub still
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ah okay, what bout the standard bolt?? will they be safe or shall i get some 5mm longer ones??
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Standard bolts are fine up to 5mm spacer. Any bigger than 5mm then but longer bolts.
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cheers tweed
thanks for all the info people!!
ill try get a pic up once its all sorrted
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No probs :wink:
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i had the same issue the other day on my 8v, after a long wait getting the same bbs's refurbed and time to put them on they catch on the calipers badly so car wont move, was bemused as obviously vr6 brakes should be bigger. did you say you've solved the problem with 10mm spacers? i was thinking about getting 15mm for the fronts but wasnt sure what would be enough? just worried about rubbing on the arches, as im lowered on coilies..
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yeah solved with 10mm spacers, although i am rubbing alot now and so going to have raise it up a bit to help. im only lowered 50mm at the moment.