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Title: how much front camber
Post by: vwwvgolf on 23 March 2013, 11:55
on my mk3 i had the camber pulled out as far it could go with camber bolts too. this obviously shredded the tyres.
 
i want to run a bit of camber for grip but i dont want stupid amounts and to go though tyres.

 i know that any amount of camber will do this eventually but is there a happy medium that people tend to run??

thanks
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: tweed on 23 March 2013, 16:25
I run fall camber on standard bolts and get very even tyre wear. Have you had your toe angle set? I find if the toe is out it will shred tyres. too much camber will just wear the inside.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Callum_K on 23 March 2013, 16:55
Adjusting camber puts the toe out so unless you got it tracked afterwards, you will tear threw tyres. All toed up correctly, a bit of camber isn't going to effect tyre wear too much.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: vwwvgolf on 23 March 2013, 21:29
okay cheers guys.
 im planning on taking it to garage to get all set up properly.

so you recon if get them to pull out the camber fully and get them make sure theres no toeing i should be all gravy??

thanks again!
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: tweed on 23 March 2013, 21:38
Hold on, pulled out?!

You want top of wheel in! Negative camber. Out is positive.

Take the camber bolts out. Replace with standard bolts and push it all the way in. That's how I run all my mk3's and get even wear. Maybe its my driving style, but works for me.

Before I did this I was wearing out the out side of tyre on my 16v
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Gavv8 on 23 March 2013, 21:46
Hold on, pulled out?!

You want top of wheel in! Negative camber. Out is positive.

Take the camber bolts out. Replace with standard bolts and push it all the way in. That's how I run all my mk3's and get even wear. Maybe its my driving style, but works for me.

Before I did this I was wearing out the out side of tyre on my 16v
I did this when i first fitted coilovers but it started wearing the inside edge so backed it off about 2mm measuring from strut to disc edge and its been fine and handles lovely, i guess it depends on what suspension your running and tyre choice.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Khare on 23 March 2013, 21:51
I'm running 1 deg negative after following Glen's advice and it's much better round the bends now.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: vwwvgolf on 23 March 2013, 22:24
ahh, my first post was meant to say 'on my old mk3' lol,  yeah i dont have the camber bolts anymore.

pushed in/ pulled out at the bottom is what i meant also haha i haven't been very clear!  :laugh:

Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 25 March 2013, 11:01
-1 on mine.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: vwwvgolf on 26 March 2013, 18:33
if i adjust the camber my self and set as much negative as i can, will they be equal on both sides or is there a chance one side will move more or something??

the closest garage to me that i trust that does alignment and camber adjustment want £70 for adjusting the camber then correcting the alignment.

is this alot? should let them set it all up or shall i keep cost down and just do the camber my self??
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Gavv8 on 26 March 2013, 19:01
If you set the struts at maximum negative camber they will both be the same as they'll only adjust so far, unless something else is bent on the suspension.
I'd advise getting it all set up professionally unless you really know what your doing or you'll end up with uneven tyre wear and possible handling issues, don't forget that with coilovers you lose a lot of compliance in the ride and handling and its important to get it right.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: tweed on 26 March 2013, 19:18
I need to run mine all the way in  :wink:

If you had after market antirollbars and poly bushed then I wouldn't recommend it, also if you do a lot of motorway miles.

Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Gavv8 on 26 March 2013, 19:33
I need to run mine all the way in  :wink:

If you had after market antirollbars and poly bushed then I wouldn't recommend it, also if you do a lot of motorway miles.
I must admit mine seemed to drive ok with them all the way in but it started scrubbing the inside edges of the tyres so i had to wind it out a bit.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Screech16v on 26 March 2013, 21:33
Mine handled terrible   all the way in and 9" fronts .
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: tweed on 26 March 2013, 22:32
Mine handled terrible   all the way in and 9" fronts .

Twitchy? 
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Ess_Three on 26 March 2013, 22:37
I need to run mine all the way in  :wink:

If you had after market antirollbars and poly bushed then I wouldn't recommend it, also if you do a lot of motorway miles.

I run somewhere between -1.6 and -1.8 degrees per side, toe out, with Koni coilovers, Eibach ARBs and Powerflex bushes and a Peloquin Diff...and get equal tyre wear.
Much of it depends on your driving style and vehicle use.
Title: Re: how much front camber
Post by: Gavv8 on 27 March 2013, 06:06
I need to run mine all the way in  :wink:

If you had after market antirollbars and poly bushed then I wouldn't recommend it, also if you do a lot of motorway miles.

I run somewhere between -1.6 and -1.8 degrees per side, toe out, with Koni coilovers, Eibach ARBs and Powerflex bushes and a Peloquin Diff...and get equal tyre wear.
Much of it depends on your driving style and vehicle use.
I'm guessing that diff makes a lot of difference though.