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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: wayedy on 22 March 2013, 18:38
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Hi, as it says on the topic title i need abit of advice my expert vw pals,
i have a 8v gti mk3, its the 1997 model 5 door hatch,
as you know 8vs aren't exactly the best of the Gti power wise, so im already bored of it abit, I'm looking to do a 16v Gti transplant as I love the shell of this car and only if it was a 16v it would b perfect,
please bare in mind this shell is mint and loads of history from 1999
so its a rare minter with zero rust and had a 8v head rebuilt at 68,000 miles, currently 112,000
BBC QUESTION TIME LOL:
1. can i use the 8v bottom end and just change the Head to a 16v?
2. what else needs changing? gearbox? ecu? clutch? wiring? fuel pump? brakes? anything i haven't listed???
3. does anyone know anyone decent to carry out such work around the East Midlands? or anyone near Nottingham or the closest person to me?
4. what sort of cost inc parts labour?
please serious answers as I'm really looking forward to do this project...
THANK YOU
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ANYONE??? :sad:
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This was asked before. Dont think you can use a 16v head on an 8v. You could just get a full 16v conversion for about 200-250 inc gearboxm loom wise should be same. Do loads of research before you buy anything. Also khare on here did an 16v convo. Pm him?
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- Engine, gearbox and all parts associated such as starter, alternator, clutch. (anything else)
- key and immobilizer
- ECU
- Engine Loom
- Clocks
- Immob box and loom
- hydro clutch + clutch line
- airbox and airbox to throttle body pipe
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SO ITS ALL GIMMICK ABOUT THE 2.0 8V BOTTOM END AND 16V TOP END :huh:
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there are just as good 16v shells out there to make this conversion a waste of your time and money.
Just look about and pick a beauty, be fussy and you'll be right.
Or take some advanced driving lessons and make yourself a better driver so you don't need the extra power ;)
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SO ITS ALL GIMMICK ABOUT THE 2.0 8V BOTTOM END AND 16V TOP END :huh:
I believe the main issue is the 8v is a tall block engine (in euro land). where as the usa uses an 8v crossflow motor (which sits lower in the bay) and i believe you can fit the 16v head etc
look at the inlet manifolds on the 16v and the 8v and you will see where the issues would be. yet look at a usa engine and they use a similar inlet manifold set up
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I'm pretty sure you can use the 8V gearbox and clutch set up with the 16v engine as well. Ignore what people say about it being a waste of your time/money, if you want to do it, go for it. Engines can be had for £200-300. Or pick up a rotten MOT failure with a good engine for peanuts then scrap the shell.
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I'm pretty sure you can use the 8V gearbox and clutch set up with the 16v engine as well. Ignore what people say about it being a waste of your time/money, if you want to do it, go for it. Engines can be had for £200-300. Or pick up a rotten MOT failure with a good engine for peanuts then scrap the shell.
The gearbox wont last long on the 16v as the rivets tend to go pop and then your left with a big gash on the back of the box with oil gushing everywere
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PM me if you want a price for the conversion, we are based in Leeds :wink:
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I have pm you mate, also thinking vr6 conversion might be a better option :laugh:
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SO ITS ALL GIMMICK ABOUT THE 2.0 8V BOTTOM END AND 16V TOP END :huh:
For the MK2 the 2.0 8v bottom end with the 1.8 Digifant head was a great and cheapish mod.
If you need a conversion see benvictors.....Amazing work and a top bloke :smiley:
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SO ITS ALL GIMMICK ABOUT THE 2.0 8V BOTTOM END AND 16V TOP END :huh:
For the MK2 the 2.0 8v bottom end with the 1.8 Digifant head was a great and cheapish mod.
If you need a conversion see benvictors.....Amazing work and a top bloke :smiley:
yes im in talks with him already, hopefully should be doing a conversion with him to a 16v soon, seems like a polite chap :smiley:
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It's me and Ben that do them, if u look through my thread on my car you will see the attention to detail that is carried out.. :smiley:
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It's me and Ben that do them, if u look through my thread on my car you will see the attention to detail that is carried out.. :smiley:
I would back this up, infact the whole forum will prob too :wink:
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Thanks mate :smiley:
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It's me and Ben that do them, if u look through my thread on my car you will see the attention to detail that is carried out.. :smiley:
I would back this up, infact the whole forum will prob too :wink:
fantastic, feel more comfo now, at least i know these guys r good :cool:
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It's me and Ben that do them, if u look through my thread on my car you will see the attention to detail that is carried out.. :smiley:
I would back this up, infact the whole forum will prob too :wink:
fantastic, feel more comfo now, at least i know these guys r good :cool:
Good ain't the word pal, These guys are excellent :cool:
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It's me and Ben that do them, if u look through my thread on my car you will see the attention to detail that is carried out.. :smiley:
I would back this up, infact the whole forum will prob too :wink:
+1
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It's me and Ben that do them, if u look through my thread on my car you will see the attention to detail that is carried out.. :smiley:
I would back this up, infact the whole forum will prob too :wink:
+1
have any of you seen how shoddy there work is when your up close? :huh: :huh:
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:grin: :grin: :grin:
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OCD / OEM specialists :grin:
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Dont even need to look under the bonnet to know kells does a good job, just look at the car
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It's me and Ben that do them, if u look through my thread on my car you will see the attention to detail that is carried out.. :smiley:
I would back this up, infact the whole forum will prob too :wink:
I know someone who wouldn't... :grin: :whistle:
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dont wanna sound like im putting a downer on the engine conversion idea but why not do a 20vt instead of a valver lump. the reason i say this is if you get the right engine code its 180 BHP and also VW make a mk3 16v gti but not a 20vt if u get what i mean. why spend excess cash on a conversion that you could go and buy off the shelf.
(just a bit of food for thought there) anyways best of luck fella
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dont wanna sound like im putting a downer on the engine conversion idea but why not do a 20vt instead of a valver lump. the reason i say this is if you get the right engine code its 180 BHP and also VW make a mk3 16v gti but not a 20vt if u get what i mean. why spend excess cash on a conversion that you could go and buy off the shelf.
(just a bit of food for thought there) anyways best of luck fella
Because it is a lot more work to go 1.8t against the Valver.
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this is definately true mate. just wanted to throw a new idea into the mixing pot :laugh:
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dont wanna sound like im putting a downer on the engine conversion idea but why not do a 20vt instead of a valver lump. the reason i say this is if you get the right engine code its 180 BHP and also VW make a mk3 16v gti but not a 20vt if u get what i mean. why spend excess cash on a conversion that you could go and buy off the shelf.
(just a bit of food for thought there) anyways best of luck fella
Because it is a lot more work to go 1.8t against the Valver.
Exactly