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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Jimble on 12 March 2013, 10:26
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I asked a similar question way back when i first started on this forum but don't think i got a clear answer hense the new thread, i live on quite a busy road and sometimes when reversing off my drive it has to be a bit sharpish which is fine in my manual car but i'm going for a DSG box in the next car, when reversing with a DSG gearbox do you have to come to a complete stop before engaging drive? Not a big issue but would be nice to know before i destroy it in the first week!! :grin:
Cheers chaps.
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You can engage reverse whilst the car is still moving forward and vice versa but it is a little slow. Actually moving the lever from 'D' to 'R' takes as long as it does in a manual but the mechanism isn't any where near as quick. Probably somewhere in the region of a 2-3 second pause, or at least it feels that long :whistle:
EDIT: Sorry just realised i'm in MK6 forum :tongue: . My cars a MK5 but i don't think DSG changed much between the two?
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I asked a similar question way back when i first started on this forum but don't think i got a clear answer hense the new thread, i live on quite a busy road and sometimes when reversing off my drive it has to be a bit sharpish which is fine in my manual car but i'm going for a DSG box in the next car, when reversing with a DSG gearbox do you have to come to a complete stop before engaging drive? Not a big issue but would be nice to know before i destroy it in the first week!! :grin:
Cheers chaps.
Reverse in, problem solved :grin:
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I asked a similar question way back when i first started on this forum but don't think i got a clear answer hense the new thread, i live on quite a busy road and sometimes when reversing off my drive it has to be a bit sharpish which is fine in my manual car but i'm going for a DSG box in the next car, when reversing with a DSG gearbox do you have to come to a complete stop before engaging drive? Not a big issue but would be nice to know before i destroy it in the first week!! :grin:
Cheers chaps.
Reverse in, problem solved :grin:
:grin: it would actually solve the problem! I'm a bit wierd in that i hate having my car facing the road, it could be an OCD!!! :embarrassed:
It's never really been an issue and will most likely be fine but was just curious about how the gearbox functions.
You can engage reverse whilst the car is still moving forward and vice versa but it is a little slow. Actually moving the lever from 'D' to 'R' takes as long as it does in a manual but the mechanism isn't any where near as quick. Probably somewhere in the region of a 2-3 second pause, or at least it feels that long :whistle:
EDIT: Sorry just realised i'm in MK6 forum :tongue: . My cars a MK5 but i don't think DSG changed much between the two?
Thanks for that mate, pretty much what i was thinking. :cool:
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According to the handbook do have to come to a complete stop. I've not tried it whilst still moving, so don't really know for sure. I just make other traffic wait. If your cars "body language" suggests what you are doing, you'll generally be given time.
I assume you are asking about Mk7's so this next bit will be relevant. What is a bit of a pain is Auto Hold. As soon as you come to a stop, the parking brake comes on. You can't just ease off the brake to roll forwards or backwards a small amount if gravity will allow. You need to press the accelerator to release the Auto Hold, which can result in a lurch forward or backwards. You can switch Auto Hold off, but I didn't know this the first day I had my car, and I was trying to edge out of a downhill junction.
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I asked a similar question way back when i first started on this forum but don't think i got a clear answer hense the new thread, i live on quite a busy road and sometimes when reversing off my drive it has to be a bit sharpish which is fine in my manual car but i'm going for a DSG box in the next car, when reversing with a DSG gearbox do you have to come to a complete stop before engaging drive? Not a big issue but would be nice to know before i destroy it in the first week!! :grin:
Cheers chaps.
Reverse in, problem solved :grin:
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This.
I live on a busy rural road and though I can turn the car around on the driveway, if other cars are parked on it, I usually reverse on. On the occasions I do reverse out into the main road, I find DSG okay, though I've never moved into reverse without stopping first. You just need to judge the approaching traffic carefully and have quick reflexes :smiley:
Dubber36 makes a good point about the Auto Hold feature of the mk7 but having experienced this on a works rental vehicle, I'd be inclined to swtich it off.
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Not been funny but if its a main road its actually against the law to reverse onto it, your suppose to reverse onto your drive from a main road. If you cause an accident I dont know where you would stand.
In the mk5 I found dsg very slow to react to such change intact it felt like an old auto box does in that regard.
Why not ask your dealer if you can borrow a dsg car for a day to try and see if if your happy with it, after all your spending a lot of money on a mk7
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Off topic but you shouldn't be reversing out onto a main rad anyways!!! <puts on flak jacket>
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It's not really a main road tbh, it just gets quite busy from time to time, like i said earlier coming to a stop is not an issue at all it's just different to what i do now in my manual, it was more a question of functionality of the box itself rather than the situation. I have driven a DSG a couple of times now and i'm really impressed with it so WILL be having one, just have to get used to it i suppose.
Thanks. :cool:
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Jim
I'm looking at DSG in my next car and I hadn't thought about the delay in the box changing gear.
Is the DSG box in the Mk7 exactly the same as the Mk6 one or is it being upgraded do we know?
Just wondering whether a test drive is required? [for me!]
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Why not ask your dealer if you can borrow a dsg car for a day to try and see if if your happy with it, after all your spending a lot of money on a mk7
+1 Always better to bend theirs first!
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I reverse out of a garage every day and there is no problem selecting first while still rolling back.
There is a slight delay, as first is on the same clutch as reverse, but not that much.
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I reverse out of a garage every day and there is no problem selecting first while still rolling back.
There is a slight delay, as first is on the same clutch as reverse, but not that much.
Excellent! Thanks Mike! :wink:
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To be fair the DSG isn't the quickest auto I've been in for changing from Drive to Reverse and vice versa.
You can change between the two when it's still rolling slightly, but it reacts even slower if you do. If you come to a stop first, or flick into Neutral just as you do, then put into gear when you've stopped moving you'll be away again quicker :wink:
I do it everyday in mine, when it was new and I was late I 'd flick from Reverse to Drive just before it'd stopped rolling back and thought a few times I'd left it in Neutral it was that slow!
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I'd stop. :wink:
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Unless your name is Russ Swift it's not a problem. :wink:
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I don't find it a problem at all, I reverse out of my drive and no issues.
Whether I'd get DSG again? NEVER!
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I don't find it a problem at all, I reverse out of my drive and no issues.
Whether I'd get DSG again? NEVER!
Oh dear! Why's that mate? :huh:
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I don't find it a problem at all, I reverse out of my drive and no issues.
Whether I'd get DSG again? NEVER!
Oh dear! Why's that mate? :huh:
It's a love hate thing for me. Driving it around town and work it's very good, very smooth. But where I hate it a lot is when you want to pull away in 5th or 4th but want it a little quicker than normal BANG into second and all hell breaks lose.
It certainly is faster that way for overtaking, no second guessing the best gear to be in but I dont want the constant gear changes when i put the foot down slightly.
When in manual mode it's almost perfect but it will overide manual if you put your foot right down all the way to 'kick-down'
Don't get me wrong, DSG is a clever piece of kit but I won't be getting it for sure, I lose too much driving pleasure from having it.
Jim
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I don't find it a problem at all, I reverse out of my drive and no issues.
Whether I'd get DSG again? NEVER!
Oh dear! Why's that mate? :huh:
It's a love hate thing for me. Driving it around town and work it's very good, very smooth. But where I hate it a lot is when you want to pull away in 5th or 4th but want it a little quicker than normal BANG into second and all hell breaks lose.
It certainly is faster that way for overtaking, no second guessing the best gear to be in but I dont want the constant gear changes when i put the foot down slightly.
When in manual mode it's almost perfect but it will overide manual if you put your foot right down all the way to 'kick-down'
Don't get me wrong, DSG is a clever piece of kit but I won't be getting it for sure, I lose too much driving pleasure from having it.
Jim
Shame you haven't mastered it because when you do I think it enhances the driving pleasure.
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I really don't think it's any longer than manual for the switch over...
I'm happy I'm in a DSG again.. Scirocco DSG A5 manual then back in to the Mk6 gti DSG
Never want manual again when you want to relax on the commute there's nothing better than sticking it to D and point!!
As for the kickdown with practise you'll get to know how much juice to give your right foot...
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It's a love hate thing for me. Driving it around town and work it's very good, very smooth. But where I hate it a lot is when you want to pull away in 5th or 4th but want it a little quicker than normal BANG into second and all hell breaks lose.
It certainly is faster that way for overtaking, no second guessing the best gear to be in but I dont want the constant gear changes when i put the foot down slightly.
When in manual mode it's almost perfect but it will overide manual if you put your foot right down all the way to 'kick-down'
Don't get me wrong, DSG is a clever piece of kit but I won't be getting it for sure, I lose too much driving pleasure from having it.
Don't put your foot all the way down to kickdown then.
You could always have your gearbox remapped. I was reading about the AMD map. Basically in manual mode, it gives you full control. No kickdown and no auto up change, so you can bounce off the rev limiter if you want. It obviously won't let you select 1st at 60mph, but it is supposed to let the car do what you want it to do, not the other way round.
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You could always have your gearbox remapped. I was reading about the AMD map. Basically in manual mode, it gives you full control. No kickdown and no auto up change, so you can bounce off the rev limiter if you want. It obviously won't let you select 1st at 60mph, but it is supposed to let the car do what you want it to do, not the other way round.
This is how the RS3 is as standard in M mode - it's a shame VAG can't do the same with the Golf GTi and R when in Manual mode IMHO.
Back on topic :smiley: I've always found the DSG a little slower than a manual to change from reverse to 1st, but not by much.