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Title: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Sonic B0000M on 11 March 2013, 13:56
About to get some coilovers. And wondering how low I can go on 16" standard gti wheels without rubbing? 40 or 50 mm.
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: bobbarley on 11 March 2013, 16:23
You need to worry about your front ARB more than the size of the wheels.
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: golfyste on 11 March 2013, 17:38
Completely depends on the rest of the car
the wheels arnt the factor of how low you go if you had a under driveshaft arb and a notch in the chassis you could put it on the floor  :laugh:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Sonic B0000M on 11 March 2013, 18:08
But without changing arb ect. How low can you go on coilovers?
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: damien010685 on 11 March 2013, 18:16
Why not just get 18s and slam the thing?
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Sonic B0000M on 11 March 2013, 18:23
Will get new wheels eventually.  Want it lowered first. Then the R32 body kit.
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kelvin1977 on 11 March 2013, 22:04
16 inch alloys + Very low = Mosaic Sump  :huh:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: DubAndDubber on 12 March 2013, 00:02
If you're getting coilovers then why ask? They're adjustable for a reason...
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Sonic B0000M on 12 March 2013, 00:12
Because if you csn only go 40mm without changing things to the car then I might as well just get 40mm springs and save my self some money.
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Scott-R on 12 March 2013, 06:33
And get 18s later on and buy coil overs then? Waste of cash?

Buy coil overs and then you can go up and down as you wish. I would say for what your talking about.
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: GTi_James on 12 March 2013, 10:44
maybe someone should put forward the ride clearances for 40mm drop and if they would fit 18"rims?

so for example im getting some Koni shocks and lowering springs but debating 35-40mm drop as i'm not looking for stupidly low. i also want to stick some 18s on and spacers> 15mm up front and 20mm around the back. what would be the best suggestions for this then? i've got the ARB's and struts sorted btw

any help on this then?

(sorry about the thread jack)
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: golfyste on 12 March 2013, 10:49
I think there was a ride height thread around at some point
But spacers totally depends on the offset and width of your wheels
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 15:10
And get 18s later on and buy coil overs then? Waste of cash?

Buy coil overs and then you can go up and down as you wish. I would say for what your talking about.

i did this SONIC....... get the collies first, i sat on 15's for awhile, got a tax re-bate then got some 17" BBS lm reps then not long after got hold of some 18" rs4 reps, Im glad i did it that way as i could play with the height to suit the wheels and ride.  :smiley:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 15:13
I think there was a ride height thread around at some point
But spacers totally depends on the offset and width of your wheels

Where's the best place for spacers, im after some for my 18" Rs4 reps, plus longer wheel nuts?
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: golfyste on 12 March 2013, 15:16
What size?
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 15:24
15mm front and 20mm rear, if advised  :whistle:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: golfyste on 12 March 2013, 15:26
If you think they are on a fit then go for it  :laugh:
Can get 15's from creation Motorsport but for 20mm I would recommend getting bolt on ones.
I got mine from a hop on the bay but can't remember where  :laugh:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 15:31
Thats not bad for a set with the Wheels nuts too  :smiley: Thanks for that, will be getting them.  :grin:   Il keep an eye-out on the bay for some 20's and il keep that in mind about bolt on one's  :smiley:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: GTi_James on 12 March 2013, 15:37
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024476396?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024476396?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300853447529?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300853447529?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649)

 :wink:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 15:44
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024476396?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024476396?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300853447529?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300853447529?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649)

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(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w408/rob8lebron/33b88fc5-4732-475c-820f-455a9670620d_zps9ed8f5c3.jpg)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: GTi_James on 12 March 2013, 15:51
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024476396?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281024476396?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300853447529?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300853447529?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649)

 :wink:

(http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w408/rob8lebron/33b88fc5-4732-475c-820f-455a9670620d_zps9ed8f5c3.jpg)

 :laugh:

 :laugh: found my new sig
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 16:18
HAHAHAHA  :laugh: :laugh: looks good  :smiley:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: golfyste on 12 March 2013, 16:22
I would definitely look at buyin bolt on spacers for the 20mm!
A few nasty stories out there of snapping bolts due o the extra leverage from the length of the bolts!
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 16:26
I would definitely look at buyin bolt on spacers for the 20mm!
A few nasty stories out there of snapping bolts due o the extra leverage from the length of the bolts!

yeah i really dont want this to happen (everyone can learn from this guy)  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I

One more  :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8guSoWOafkI
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: dan2252 on 12 March 2013, 17:47
Lowering springs are the worst invention ever coil overs is the only way! Take the arb off ya don't need it ;)
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: golfyste on 12 March 2013, 18:05
Lowering springs are the worst invention ever coil overs is the only way! Take the arb off ya don't need it ;)

 :shocked: why would you get is of the arb???
People uprate them for a reason!
Fair enough if it is a show only car but on the road it is a idiotic idea...
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: dom on 12 March 2013, 18:14
Lowering springs are the worst invention ever coil overs is the only way! Take the arb off ya don't need it ;)

 :shocked: why would you get is of the arb???
People uprate them for a reason!
Fair enough if it is a show only car but on the road it is a idiotic idea...

Ignore Danny, he likes to pretend he's in the fast & the furious so loves losing control of his car and making the tyres squeal...impresses the young girls apparently :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

To be fair, his car is so low that the arb will be making little difference.

Back on topic, don't get lowering springs, you'll end up buying coilovers eventually anyway so it will be a false economy. You'll manage ~50mm drop before hitting arb issues, that can be resolved easily enough with an arb that goes under the driveshaft instead.

As for spacers I'm running 15mm front and 20mm, neither bolt on, but both hubcentric. I'd look at getting them from JJC:

http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ (http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/)
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: dan2252 on 12 March 2013, 18:22
Have you tried it? No :) the car handles fine!  It's so low it wouldn't make a difference if I had one or not so why waste money on Somthing I don't need haha :)
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Kobe on 12 March 2013, 18:26
As for spacers I'm running 15mm front and 20mm, neither bolt on, but both hubcentric. I'd look at getting them from JJC:

http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ (http://www.jjcraceandrally.com/)
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Nice one.  :grin:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: dom on 12 March 2013, 18:26
Have you tried it? No :) the car handles fine!  It's so low it wouldn't make a difference if I had one or not so why waste money on Somthing I don't need haha :)

Calm down dear, I was defending you :grin:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: golfyste on 12 March 2013, 18:38
Have you tried it? No :) the car handles fine!  It's so low it wouldn't make a difference if I had one or not so why waste money on Somthing I don't need haha :)

I know what your saying but have tried riding as low as you are with a uprated arb??
For all you know it could make a nice impovent that you didn't even know was there.

Not being b!tchy but in my mind anything that stiffens the chassis is nothing but good if equally balanced and getting rid is a rubbish idea  :smiley:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: GTi_James on 12 March 2013, 19:39
as stated lowering springs are the thinking mans choise  :kiss:  :drool:

im not against coilies at all infact im still debating the two but as the car is a daily i want some comfort,  have to take my missus mum places sometimes as i'm the favourite  :grin: and i personaly THOUGHT that lowering springs and shocks were more stable than coilies, thats what i thought anyway, at the end of the day its personal preference, around here we have sh!t roads with the A12 so im more inclined for the lowering springs but if you have black top as smooth as a babies bum then by all means get them colies  :wink:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Sonic B0000M on 12 March 2013, 20:07
Yeah. I don't want it massively low just 40mm. So I think springs is the way forward for me.  :laugh:
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: markallen on 12 March 2013, 20:14
This is mine on Pro Sport coilovers. Rears and as low as they will go without taking the adjusters out and the front is low with possibility of going a lot lower. Just to give you an idea mate?

(http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/marka22/16E7D9B9-5FB0-48AD-A66B-989811D36095-6886-0000086B7821F3D3.jpg)
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: dan2252 on 12 March 2013, 23:51


Calm down dear, I was defending you :grin:
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 Haha I know mate I was on about the other guys slating Somthing they haven't tried! Haha :)
Title: Re: how low on coils can you go with 16"
Post by: Sonic B0000M on 16 April 2013, 16:04
Just got my coilovers. What spacers do I need for the standard 16 wheels?